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luckydog1 -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/20/2007 10:04:28 AM)
So a terrorist supporter was giving $ to bush. Bush took it, and then had the guy investigated and arrested. I fail to see a problem here. Sinergy should go re read Sanity's post. He in no way said it was the fault of liberals. Also why do you say that Mixon did anything illegal to support the republicans? There is no evidence of that at all. Now Sanity did ask a great question, that I notice all of the leftists were afraid to answer, choosing instead to go on silly false rants. This guy was caught because of the Patriot act, and its increased oversight of finacial transactions. Do any of you who say the Partiot Act is illegal/unconstitutional, want the guy let free and the charges dropped? Now will I get an honest answer or more insults and ranting? The latter I suspect....

subrob1967 -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/20/2007 10:08:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle I dunno, If someone gave ME 15k, I'd consider them a major contributor! Not if you raised millions of dollars a year, and had $10.000.00 a plate fund raiser dinners.

farglebargle -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/20/2007 10:30:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: luckydog1 So a terrorist supporter was giving $ to bush. Bush took it, and then had the guy investigated and arrested. I fail to see a problem here. Sinergy should go re read Sanity's post. He in no way said it was the fault of liberals. Also why do you say that Mixon did anything illegal to support the republicans? There is no evidence of that at all. There's a count of Financial Fraud included in the indictment, apparently he was running some cons to fund his lifestyle.

farglebargle -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/20/2007 10:31:54 AM)
quote: This guy was caught because of the Patriot act, and its increased oversight of finacial transactions. Do any of you who say the Partiot Act is illegal/unconstitutional, want the guy let free and the charges dropped? I didn't see that in the Journal News article. It seemed that he was nailed because of a FBI Snitch. That's problematical, b/c it appears all these FBI snitches aren't trustworthy enough to take the stand in a trial.

DomKen -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/20/2007 10:35:58 AM)
From what was reported pre PATRIOT financial laws should have caught $100k transfers to known terroists in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Therefore no, I do not support the PATRIOT act and this continues the absolutely unbroken streak of no successful prosecutions of terrorists due to provisions of the PATRIOT act.

Sinergy -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 12:06:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 No Delay was forced out by the party. This is so untrue I am almost shocked. DeLay was indicted on criminal charges, and the Republican's could not in good conscience and with a straight face, or continued hopes of a political career, pass the law Delay presented for a vote which would allow a congressman under indictment from continuing to serve in congress. To clarify, when DeLay was indicted on criminal charges, he lost his job. The Republican party had little or nothing to do with his being tarred, feathered, and carried out of Washington on a rail. Sinergy

juliaoceania -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 1:17:54 PM)
Thanks for pointing that out, I believe it was the Republican passed house rules that forced him out because of the indictments. They tried to toss aside their own rules

Sternhand4 -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:05:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Thanks for pointing that out, I believe it was the Republican passed house rules that forced him out because of the indictments. They tried to toss aside their own rules My point exactly, the party rules forced Delay to resign his role as speaker of the house. To this day he has not been found guilty of any charges. There's an old prosecutors expression that goes " I can indict a ham sandwich if I want too" He later stepped down from the house, after winning a republican primary for his seat, for the good of he party. "I'm a realist. I've been around awhile. I can evaluate political situations," DeLay told TIME at his kitchen table in Sugar Land, a former sugar plantation in suburban Houston. Bluebonnets are blooming along the highways. "I feel that I could have won the race. I just felt like I didn't want to risk the seat and that I can do more on the outside of the House than I can on the inside right now. I want to continue to fight for the conservative cause. I want to continue to work for a Republican majority." The full article is here.. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1179857-6,00.html Again, show me that same level of ethics from the DNC, I have asked several times and you have'nt been able to show the same type of reponse from the dems.

Sinergy -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:10:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 Again, show me that same level of ethics from the DNC, I have asked several times and you have'nt been able to show the same type of reponse from the dems. You win. I do not recall off the top of my head any Democrats who misappropriated campaign funds, used congressional travel privileges for private funds. Ran bills through congress to provide money and congressional funding for their children. Sold his votes to special interests. Covered up for people like Foley and his attempts to commit child abuse. So I will concede that the Democrats fail to aspire to the nadir of Republican levels of ethical behavior. Sinergy p.s. You forgot to use the word "yet" at the end of your sentence about him not being convicted.

Sternhand4 -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:11:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 No Delay was forced out by the party. This is so untrue I am almost shocked. DeLay was indicted on criminal charges, and the Republican's could not in good conscience and with a straight face, or continued hopes of a political career, pass the law Delay presented for a vote which would allow a congressman under indictment from continuing to serve in congress. Wrong he was indicted and stepped down as speaker To clarify, when DeLay was indicted on criminal charges, he lost his job. Again He lost his speaker post The Republican party had little or nothing to do with his being tarred, feathered, and carried out of Washington on a rail. It was party rules that cost him the speaker position Now he's another beltway bandit and lives in DC Sinergy

Sinergy -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:13:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 Wrong he was indicted and stepped down as speaker Might want to check your facts. He also resigned from Congress. Where he lives is not overly relevant to the discussion. Sinergy

farglebargle -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:17:26 PM)
What ever happened to the Money Laundering indictment?

Sternhand4 -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:26:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 Again, show me that same level of ethics from the DNC, I have asked several times and you have'nt been able to show the same type of reponse from the dems. You win. I do not recall off the top of my head any Democrats who misappropriated campaign funds, used congressional travel privileges for private funds. Ran bills through congress to provide money and congressional funding for their children. Sold his votes to special interests. Covered up for people like Foley and his attempts to commit child abuse. So I will concede that the Democrats fail to aspire to the nadir of Republican levels of ethical behavior. Sinergy p.s. You forgot to use the word "yet" at the end of your sentence about him not being convicted. Then let me help you.. In an ABC interview Sunday, Mrs. Pelosi dismissed questions about travel by Democrats, telling interviewer George Stephanopoulos: "Do not fall into a Republican trap of equating technicalities on reporting, timing of reporting with not upholding an ethical standard of the House." However, Republicans see the old double-standard in Washington politics and in the news media. If a Republican is accused, it becomes a media frenzy. If a Democrat is suspected, it's a mistake. *Even Pelosi was forced to pay back $21,000.00 in her own ethics case.* "What is a "technicality" for her requires a full-scale investigation for others," said National Republican Congressional Committee spokesman Carl Forti

farglebargle -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:28:28 PM)
"If a Republican is accused, it becomes a media frenzy" That's because the Republicans are hated for selling out the the Neocon Party Whores, and fucking up the invasion/occupation of Iraq. Everyone hates a loser.

Sternhand4 -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:37:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sinergy quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 Wrong he was indicted and stepped down as speaker Might want to check your facts. He also resigned from Congress. My facts are correct. he stepped down as speaker 28 SEP 05 and resigned from the house 9 JUN 06 The indictment had nothing to do with his decision to resign. Where he lives is not overly relevant to the discussion. You made it relavent with the quote below.. The Republican party had little or nothing to do with his being tarred, feathered, and carried out of Washington on a rail. He's still there and still a player in the system Sinergy

farglebargle -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:40:25 PM)
Wasn't he indicted on 28 Sep 2005?

juliaoceania -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 2:54:19 PM)
The point is that there was talk among the republicans to change the rules back to allow Tom Delay to remain in his position (majority leader, not speaker)... and there was such an outcry over it, and there was such a rush to distance themselves that the GOP threw Delay under a bus... no honor among thieves

Sinergy -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 3:30:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sternhand4 My facts are correct. he stepped down as speaker 28 SEP 05 and resigned from the house 9 JUN 06 The indictment had nothing to do with his decision to resign. Why did he resign, anyway? quote: Where he lives is not overly relevant to the discussion. You made it relavent with the quote below.. The Republican party had little or nothing to do with his being tarred, feathered, and carried out of Washington on a rail. He's still there and still a player in the system Sort of like Agent Smith in the Matrix? He is not an elected individual working in our government. He is a private lobbyist. Sinergy

KenDckey -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 4:37:54 PM)
Calm down everyone We know that Julia is always right and we are voting her for Pres in 2008

juliaoceania -> RE: MAJOR RNC Contributor indicted on terrorism/fraud charges... (2/21/2007 6:11:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey Calm down everyone We know that Julia is always right and we are voting her for Pres in 2008 Well thanks for the support, you can email your credit card numbers directly to my email here on CM for your tax deductible campaign contributions.. but to be fair, I am still in the "exploratory" phase Disclaimer, I am not actually running for president so please do not email me any number as the above is a joke, I do not want to break the TOS[;)]

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