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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 6:44:11 PM

slaveish

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ORIGINAL: DoctorDubious

PS.... like the old saw goes,
It ain't bondage until she really, really wants to be released.

Oooooooooo my goddddddddddddd. ~breathless~

Ok ... what about if I ... uh ... she ... pretends she really really wants to be released? Is that bondage? ~in quite a state~

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 8:36:55 PM

DoctorDubious

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ORIGINAL: slaveish

Oooooooooo my goddddddddddddd. ~breathless~

Ok ... what about if I ... uh ... she ... pretends she really really wants to be released? Is that bondage? ~in quite a state~

Hey Slaveish... and all....

>>Oooooooooo my goddddddddddddd. ~breathless~>>

Yikes.... if the BDSM Bylaw Enforcement strike force
gets wind of any hint that I've been controlling your oxygen-flow
and playing with you all breathless.... they'd have an old-school conniption-fit.

But the suggestion reminds me of the time .........

>>>Ok ... what about if I ... uh ... she ... pretends she really really wants to be released?>>>

I've heard it said that any decent Dom
knows and learns all the little physiological signs
that cue the observant to the difference between
pretending and real distress.....
.... and can calibrate that delightful distress to just the right emotional tone.

You see, just as a "real" smile can be differentiated
from a "posed" smile by looking at the involuntary
muscles around the eyes
... a real smile contracts the orbicularis oculi muscles
causing the corner of the eyes to crinkle into crows-feet
.... a posed smile lip corners stretch more sideways
through contraction of rosortius muscles....

Simple enough to see, once you know what to look for.

there ARE cues to real and feigned distress...

Maybe...
maybe you can raise your heartbeat, which I watch at your neck
maybe you can raise your bloodpressure, which shows by slight flushing
maybe you can breathe more shallow, more quickly... more erratically...
maybe you can even feign a shimmer of perspiration at the hairline....

But can you do all that without thinking?
And fake each of those responses in the same way each time?

No.... I think after a session or two
I could calibrate your mind/body/emotional tone rather accurately.

I could be wrong, you might be able to fool me.

DoctorDubious, an observant old goat.
PS.... oh, did I mention that getting caught
faking has a whole set of creative ordeals
that I REALLY enjoy sharing with those who dare to play with me?

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 8:41:55 PM

azzmaster

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sounds like u like 2 shock people. its real socially inappropriate. just go to a damn fetish club,where it IS appropriate. if u want ur friends 2 know about ur lifestyle tell em don't show em

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 9:30:21 PM

MasterHyde

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well you are forgetting this lifestyle is all about consensual.....has nothing to do with power or not, you should read up on that...I am in charge of my submissive and she enjoys it very much.

Wow... nothing to do with power? I'm just going to assume this is one of those statements that was way oversimplified. You make a good point about it being consensual. I would have a problem with someone doing what the original poster wants to do if it wasn't done in the context of a consensual relationship. But the implication that this lifestyle has nothing to with power. Man, that just blows my mind as one of the most clueless thoughts I've come across since, well, since the last clueless thought. There is a lot of cluelessness going around here (the Internet).

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 9:41:28 PM

MasterKalif

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ORIGINAL: DoctorDubious

So, Master Kalif....

>>this lifestyle is all about consensual

Are you suggesting that all of us in "this lifestyle"
all follow the same rules....
and that we all have the same understanding
of what "consensual" means in every context?

I don't recall appointing you as my spokesperson.

Did The Grand Council of Doms
have their annual convention and
finally pass

Bylaw 173.82
The Meaning And Universal Regulation Of Consent

at long last? They been trying to pass that one for years.

Fuck.... I knew I was missing critically important shit
by playing in my dungeon and not keeping up to date here on CM.

>>has nothing to do with power or not

Nothing to do with power, eh?
Nothing at all?

Jeeezuz... The Grand Council of Doms
changed more than one bylaw.

I am sooooo out of date.

>>>you should read up on that

Some of us didn't learn this shit
out of a book, website, or even
The Manual Of Well Regulated Domination, revision 3/07.

DD

DoctorDubious, I am not speaking for everyone, but I think we can all agree that this lifestyle should require some consent from both parties in some respect....I am not imposing my view on anyone here.

Well the lifestyle has much to do with power of course, but was trying to say that being consensual or at the very least understanding their limits on a submissive does not equal to the Dominant being "less" in control for it.

As for Grand councils, I do not care much for what they have to say...I live it my way. I have read into the lifestyle and practiced it Doc...reading and learning are not bad things as you probably learned in Med School.

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 9:43:21 PM

MasterKalif

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ORIGINAL: MasterHyde
Wow... nothing to do with power? I'm just going to assume this is one of those statements that was way oversimplified. You make a good point about it being consensual. I would have a problem with someone doing what the original poster wants to do if it wasn't done in the context of a consensual relationship. But the implication that this lifestyle has nothing to with power. Man, that just blows my mind as one of the most clueless thoughts I've come across since, well, since the last clueless thought. There is a lot of cluelessness going around here (the Internet).

MasterHyde, it was oversimplified...I was trying to get across that being consensual or at the very least understanding limits on a submissive does not equal to the Dominant having "less" control for doing things in a consensual manner. This lifestyle has much to do with power, hope this clears up the misunderstanding.

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 9:52:09 PM

juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: ron2421

Yes, just for the record, it would be friends prepped for such an experience. I would never do it to her straight vanilla or business associates or anyone we agree would make her or them uncomfortable.
I would likely "break her in" by first exposing her at one of the area S/M and spanking clubs.
Thanks for all the thoughtful replies.

I am not judging your kink, hell I have exhibitionist tendencies, I am really not judging... but I would really rethink having your wife show her naughty bits to your friends.

I have this boundary personally, and while seeing someone engage in this behavior would not squick me at a fetish event of some sort... with a friend it would be very uncomfortable... and your friends will never forget they saw your wife full on, they will think about it every time they see her, and I do not know if I would like that even though I am an exhibitionist.

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 10:16:46 PM

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On a related note, the female instructor I was working with this weekend indicated to the students to wear appropriate clothing (sweats, bike shorts, etc) to class. She made the comment that the male instructors tend to not like getting beaver shots during our classes. I agreed and said that my job creeps me out enough as it is.

The high school girls were all nice enough to wear sweats and long pants.

Admittedly, I'm a pervert. But are there really that many male instructors who DON'T like getting beaver shots from high school girls? ROFLMAO

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 10:19:59 PM

juliaoceania

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Yes there are some male instructors that do not want a beaver shot from a girl they are having a mock fight with. I mean there is something that would be quite unsettling to many men about mock assaulting a girl until she cries and seeing her naughty bits as her brain tells her she is fighting for her life, not everyone would enjoy that.. some things are not a matter of being perverted

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/20/2007 11:00:51 PM

amayos

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ORIGINAL: ron2421

I want to discuss with my beautiful, loving sub wife that I sometimes would like to flash her to certain friends by, for example, lifting up her skirt. Our friends are presently not in LDD or D/S relationships as far as I know.
Like with other doms, I would gain satisfaction out of sexually humiliating her in public.
Am I crazy or cruel for wanting this? Are there subs out there that actually don't mind this treatment especially if it pleases their doms?

You are not crazy or cruel. The above contains some rather tame visions, one might say. While it tickled me that some would feel "violated" over witnessing another person's nudity without forewarning or consent, I will give credence to the sentiment that a couple when doing so should consider how they are forcing others to unwittingly partake in their somewhat juvenile quest for mind candy without acquiescence.

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 2:13:55 AM

mons

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greetings to all

this is the one reason i have never given into that side of me years ago of becoming a slave or submissive, i am proud to be a dominant as i sure many slaves and submissives are too. but to make or want to have you submissive or slave expose their parts to others is sharing what should be private and yours to own and adore and enjoy not many master or dom or domme do this but i think more the i want to know.
why do this take a vidoe and flash your darn self of her private parts this willl work better before i came into the lifestyle i had a dear friend who happen to marry a man who was submissive and i had not ideal she was into this, she and her husband decided i would be the treat of the day and they wanted me to join them in a threesome. i was so shock i did not speak to her for 5 years. this is a good reason not to do what your thinking if they are good friend and you value their company and friendship do not do this you will lose them. she did not know i would react in the way i did. we are still friends and we never mention what she asked me i do not either but it took years for me to forgive her for putting me in that embarresing psotion in the first place . think twice you can not take back what your thinking of doing

take care
mons

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 1:50:43 PM

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: MasterHyde

quote:

On a related note, the female instructor I was working with this weekend indicated to the students to wear appropriate clothing (sweats, bike shorts, etc) to class. She made the comment that the male instructors tend to not like getting beaver shots during our classes. I agreed and said that my job creeps me out enough as it is.

The high school girls were all nice enough to wear sweats and long pants.

Admittedly, I'm a pervert. But are there really that many male instructors who DON'T like getting beaver shots from high school girls? ROFLMAO

For this particular job, MasterHyde, I can say with a high degree of confidence that none of us like seeing the student's naughty bits.

Sinergy

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 2:01:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterHyde

quote:

On a related note, the female instructor I was working with this weekend indicated to the students to wear appropriate clothing (sweats, bike shorts, etc) to class. She made the comment that the male instructors tend to not like getting beaver shots during our classes. I agreed and said that my job creeps me out enough as it is.

The high school girls were all nice enough to wear sweats and long pants.

Admittedly, I'm a pervert. But are there really that many male instructors who DON'T like getting beaver shots from high school girls? ROFLMAO

For this particular job, MasterHyde, I can say with a high degree of confidence that none of us like seeing the student's naughty bits.

Sinergy

Call me crazy, but I'd think a real man wouldn't want to see a beaver shot from any 16 year old. Kudos to you Sinergy.

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 2:15:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: SweetAndInnocent
Call me crazy, but I'd think a real man wouldn't want to see a beaver shot from any 16 year old. Kudos to you Sinergy.

Why on earth is that? I enjoy seeing quite a few in the right mood and circumstance. But I'm a woman so maybe it's ok.

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 2:35:29 PM

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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ORIGINAL: SweetAndInnocent
Call me crazy, but I'd think a real man wouldn't want to see a beaver shot from any 16 year old. Kudos to you Sinergy.

Why on earth is that? I enjoy seeing quite a few in the right mood and circumstance. But I'm a woman so maybe it's ok.

I never said anything about age. The age comment came since the class I was teaching that day was at a high school. I really dislike seeing legal age naughty bits in class as well. It is just weird.

To answer your question, LuckyAlbatross. My job is to freak and scare the crap out of the student with both verbal and physical assaults and have them kick the crap out of me.

Sometimes the students cry through their fights. They still fight; eyes shrinkwrapped in tears.

Sometimes the students get this murderous twisted face look on their faces, filled with hatred.

Sometimes they ask me out. I want to go take a shower and have a long cry.

I have a high sense of personal ethics. There is an aspect to teacher / student and doctor / patient relationships, in my mind, that renders consensuality impossible. The person they are asking out is me the instructor, not me the person, and I refuse to (even if I could) cross that divide.

Hope this answers your question.

Sinergy

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 2:39:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy
I have a high sense of personal ethics. There is an aspect to teacher / student and doctor / patient relationships, in my mind, that renders consensuality impossible. The person they are asking out is me the instructor, not me the person, and I refuse to (even if I could) cross that divide.

Hope this answers your question.

Sinergy

Like I said "in the right mood and circumstance" I also was talking only of LOOKING :)

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RE: Exposing my sub wife to friends - 2/21/2007 2:43:05 PM

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy
I have a high sense of personal ethics. There is an aspect to teacher / student and doctor / patient relationships, in my mind, that renders consensuality impossible. The person they are asking out is me the instructor, not me the person, and I refuse to (even if I could) cross that divide.

Hope this answers your question.

Sinergy

Like I said "in the right mood and circumstance" I also was talking only of LOOKING :)

Fair enough.

When I am the instructor, it is not the right mood or circumstance for me.

Sinergy

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