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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

CreativeDominant, it could just be a simple case of miscommunication. from your wording, it seemed as if you were saying that dominance and submission were "ehancements" to bdsm, and when i think of an enhancement i think of something that is not a constant or a natural state. if that is not the way you meant it, then my apologies for misunderstanding.
however on the topic of biting, i still would question the dominance (and by this i mean personality wise) of a person who wished to or enjoyed being bitten sexually, just as i would question the submissiveness of one who wished to or enjoyed doing this to another. i'm confused as to how you feel i'm putting a Dominant into the role of bedroom only?.....as i've said many times, i feel that one's D/s nature is a core personality trait, so therefore would encompass all aspects of one's life.

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ORIGINAL: michellerose

i think the issue here is the confusing of sadism and masochism (which are directly related to the giving and receiving of pain, and the liking of such) to Dominance and submission, whic are psychological things. yes, certain painful actions can be considered a display of Dominance,  and having painful actions performed ON you can be a display of submission, but it is by no means mutually exclusive. the liking of pain (masochism) does NOT make one submissive. nor does liking to GIVE pain (sadism) make one dominant. biting in and of itself is simply a way to give pain. being bitten is a way to receive pain. if a Dominant DIRECTS His or Her submissive to give them pain, then that is a masochistic AND a dominant act. D/s and S&M have many permutations.

m.

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ORIGINAL: kyraofMists

With us, anything goes during play and sex.  There is nothing that is off limits; I think it, then I am supposed to do it.  If he doesn't like it, then it is up to him to control it.  This includes biting, kicking, punching, slapping, hair pulling...  whatever crosses my mind, I will do to him. 

His authority is not threatened in the least by this behavior.  In fact, to not do this would be disobedience on my part.  He enjoys uninhibited play and sex and he will control what he does not like.

Knight's kyra

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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Devilslittlesister... every time I look at your pic I think of what a wonderful mind you have.
 
 
Aw who am I kidding, all I can think about is biting that ass.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


If you truly feel that being wanting to be bitten brings into question one's dominance, then wouldn't you have to say the same about someone who wants to have their cock sucked?  Both are...after all...about receiving sensation.  Having your cock sucked can sometimes create a feeling of exquisite tenderness...there is just that very, very slight hint of pain that comes with various types of cocksucking technique.  Does the fact that someone would enjoy this type of cocksucking...even with its minimal pain...make them less dominant? 
If dominance is only about doing things to someone, then that could certainly explain about why a dominant female who likes sucking her submissive's cock can still be seen as dominant...but if that is so, then under your line of thinking, wouldn't the submissive who sucks her dominant's cock without being told to be committing an act of aggression...doing something to her dominant...and therefore also be committing a dominant act?

I can see that we are going to have to agree to disagree on this.  I see myself as dominant.  I am sure that the others who have written in the same manner as I see themselves or their dominant as being dominant with no questions about it.  It is your belief...from what I can gather....that the acceptance of any act from a submissive towards a dominant that is even slightly aggressive, such as biting, by the dominant...brings into question his dominance.  IMHO, that is too simplistic and does not allow for the wide variety of differences in what people like in their lives.  Hmmmmmmmmmm....I have been known to cry at sad movies...does this also make me less dominant?

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

.....there is a school of thought in this lifestyle that simply because one person is giving an order, no matter WHAT that order may be, and another person follows that order, no matter WHAT it may be, that the first person is a Dominant and the latter a submissive. i actually find this thinking far too simplistic, because it implies that Dominance and submission have zero to do with personality or nature, and everything to do with action and reaction.

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..... however i do not feel that a submissive can be a sadist, nor a Dominant a masochist, because of what i have explained earlier about the nature of those particular personality types. but you have to remember that when i say "a submissive" or "a Dominant" i'm probably referring to something a bit different than most here. i'm not speaking of sexual roles or even relationship roles, but basic core personalities.

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

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ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

.....there is a school of thought in this lifestyle that simply because one person is giving an order, no matter WHAT that order may be, and another person follows that order, no matter WHAT it may be, that the first person is a Dominant and the latter a submissive. i actually find this thinking far too simplistic, because it implies that Dominance and submission have zero to do with personality or nature, and everything to do with action and reaction.

first you said this... which I happen to agree with you.   It's more to do with Motivation of said actions and reactions... and our motivations can be very much driven from our peronality and inner natures.


However,  Then you go to say this..

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..... however i do not feel that a submissive can be a sadist, nor a Dominant a masochist, because of what i have explained earlier about the nature of those particular personality types. but you have to remember that when i say "a submissive" or "a Dominant" i'm probably referring to something a bit different than most here. i'm not speaking of sexual roles or even relationship roles, but basic core personalities.

you contradict yourself.  Here you denote that a Sadist (which is just some that takes action of a particular type" can't come from a submssive..

so in other words.. suddenly actions do dictate dominance and submission....

your logic is flawed...