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NOESCAPEPRISONER -> making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 7:40:44 AM)

in the old days, you know the deep south and all that.
slaves were bought and sold and put to work in the home, or the field's.
Why is it then that modern so called owner's want a slave who wil do all their running errand's,housework,repair's,personal need's. and then expect them to work outside the home to make them rich, or at least more comfortable.
personally this slave makes a distincion between a service slave, and a financial one.
dont get slave wrong, each to their own.
Why do slave's who prefer to stay at home and take care of their owner's, get so much bad press.
A genuine slave will give his all, and suffer untold humiliation,pain, and degredation. please show him some respect.
This is slaves own personal view and in no way reflect's on any individuals.



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 7:46:36 AM)

Most masters and slaves want pretty much a relationship that, for all intents and purposes, is like a modern traditional marriage with kink, where they can enjoy their labels when it suits them most and ignore them when they don't.

The funny thing is that these relationships tend to externally look just like every other Master/slave relationship.

The thing is, we all shape our lives and relationships to what suits us best.  And that's the only way it will ever work in the long term.

As always- take what works for you and leave the rest.



MasterFireMaam -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 7:49:00 AM)

Some of it is simple fact: If you're not working outside the home in order to help provide for you own upkeep, most simply cannot afford you. I couldn't afford a stay-at-home dad any more than I could a slave. People come with debt and expenses. I'm not looking for you to make me rich (that's a projection and assumption on your part), I'm looking for a way to have your credit card debt paid and your car payment kept up. Not to mention your food bill, medical care and such.

Master Fire



Jasmyn -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 7:53:58 AM)

You're wrong.  It does reflect on the individual when you say shite like "so called owners" ... just because something is not picture perfect for your narrow view of the world, it doesn't mean it is not picture perfect for those doing it.

Not everyone wants nor covets your idea of enslavement. 



ownedgirlie -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 8:01:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NOESCAPEPRISONER

in the old days, you know the deep south and all that.
slaves were bought and sold and put to work in the home, or the field's.
Why is it then that modern so called owner's want a slave who wil do all their running errand's,housework,repair's,personal need's. and then expect them to work outside the home to make them rich, or at least more comfortable.
personally this slave makes a distincion between a service slave, and a financial one.
dont get slave wrong, each to their own.
Why do slave's who prefer to stay at home and take care of their owner's, get so much bad press.
A genuine slave will give his all, and suffer untold humiliation,pain, and degredation. please show him some respect.
This is slaves own personal view and in no way reflect's on any individuals.


I have never viewed a slave who can stay home and solely focus on his/her owner as something negative.  I admire and envy them!!  Sometimes I feel such a pull throughout my days, of wishing I could be doting on him and his needs rather than work, school, etc.  But this is what he wants me doing, and so my focus is where he has put it.  It's my way of fulfilling his requirements of me.  But he is comfortable enough financially through his own means.  My money is not handed to him, although he will take it over to manage if I am not doing well with it. 

Such a distinction you make is a very black and white view of things.  No one can possibly be accurate with such a universal statement, as we can not possibly fathom what one provides another, simply because a slave works.  Expand your mind, my friend, the options are endless!!

I agree with your words about a slave giving his/her all...but do not confuse what "giving your all" means for everyone else.  A slave can serve, suffer, endure humiliation, be a slut, be a companion, be an errand runner and a caretaker whether he/she is employed outside the home or not.  Giving one's all means putting forth complete and absolute best effort in whatever the Master requires.  For some, the requirement is staying home; for others, it is not.  If my Master expects something from me and I don't do everything within my means to meet such expectations or even exceed them - no matter if it's caring for a home or going to work - I am not giving my all.

I see no need to compare stay-at-home slaves with working-slaves.  It's just another needless competition in my opinion.



toservez -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 8:04:04 AM)

First I do not think that slaves that do not work get bad press. I think the current thread on this is more an exploration to what are people’s preferences and not judgments on this. I think any negative association toward slaves who do not want to work is when there primary search for an owner is so they do not have to work and that is their basis for living this life.

The simple fact is the world has changed. Spouses for most of the population need to work to pay the bills and it is not an option. For others more fortunate, spouses work because it brings a positive thing in their life or extra money and security. M/s relationships are simply no different then other relationships in the general population. For some both spouses working is no choice but a need. The ones who are lucky enough to have the choice then it is about their own preferences and other needs besides economical. For some that is working for others it is not.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 8:06:08 AM)

IN my mind the old south has never died,OURS work in the vanilla world as well as in the home.When one is slave and has enslaved herself then she has no choice..OF course just the views of this "ol" MASTER....WILLIAM



BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 8:10:12 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Some of it is simple fact: If you're not working outside the home in order to help provide for you own upkeep, most simply cannot afford you. I couldn't afford a stay-at-home dad any more than I could a slave. People come with debt and expenses. I'm not looking for you to make me rich (that's a projection and assumption on your part), I'm looking for a way to have your credit card debt paid and your car payment kept up. Not to mention your food bill, medical care and such.

Master Fire




I agree  with you MASTERFIRE there are so many expenses now days that one can't keep a stay at home slave how ever one of ours work online and that makes it pretty good.WE are blue collar hard working folks so we couldn"t put up with us working harder then our property...BH



thetammyjo -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 8:44:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NOESCAPEPRISONER

in the old days, you know the deep south and all that.
slaves were bought and sold and put to work in the home, or the field's.
Why is it then that modern so called owner's want a slave who wil do all their running errand's,housework,repair's,personal need's. and then expect them to work outside the home to make them rich, or at least more comfortable.
personally this slave makes a distincion between a service slave, and a financial one.
dont get slave wrong, each to their own.
Why do slave's who prefer to stay at home and take care of their owner's, get so much bad press.
A genuine slave will give his all, and suffer untold humiliation,pain, and degredation. please show him some respect.
This is slaves own personal view and in no way reflect's on any individuals.


I'm not sure I understand.

Wouldn't a person who wanted a slave to behave as you suggest above be treating that slave in accordance with how historical or institutional slaves were treated?

I'm unclear if you think that "model" from some pop version of the antebellum South is a good thing or not.



MasterVern -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 9:16:20 AM)

In answer to NOESCAPEPRISONER

In the old South, the slaves worked anywhere from 10 to 20 hrs a day 7 days a week. Those who slacked off were sold or killed at the Master's pleasure. From the stories of my Grandfather, the female slaves they wanted to take were often taken right there in the field, or in the slaves own bed in front of their entire family. When the master was finished with his pleasure, the slave was required to go back about their daily routine like nothing had happened. Of course some Masters had "house slaves" and some of the house slaves may have been used exclusively for sex, but as soon as the Master was tired of them, they went back to the field or were sold. And the rest of the slaves were bringing in income at the time.

Now, if that is what you think of as the "good ol' days" I do believe I may know one or two bi Doms who will beat you silly, rape you until your bleeding & sick then make you work until your so tired you want to die to escape.  (Oops forgot you were in fantasyland and had no idea what you were truly requesting)



Mercnbeth -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 9:53:54 AM)

quote:

Why do slave's who prefer to stay at home and take care of their owner's, get so much bad press.


perhaps it is just because you are new, but if you read through some threads, chances are you will start to notice that just about every choice a person makes around here gets "bad press"...to serve as Master desires, in home or out, how long to get to know each other online before meeting, using a safeword or not, what in the name of all that is sacred defines a slave, ad infinitum.

quote:

I see no need to compare stay-at-home slaves with working-slaves.  It's just another needless competition in my opinion...orig: ownedgirlie 


this slave sees no need in turning ANY comparison of choices folks make into a competition.  for those who are contemplating making choices and seek to inform themselves and gather information...comparing the sides of the eternal safeword or not debate, for instance might help them to make a better choice for themself.
 
this slave also believes anyone making generalizations about "slaves" or others relationships one couldn't possibly know unless they were divine incarnate, never seem to serve much of a purpose to further discussions to this slave either, other than possible insight into another's opinion of their own knowledge.



mixielicous -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 10:12:27 AM)

currently my role is that of "service slave" as i am unemployed since i moved in, and do all the cleaning etc of the house - but this is only temporary [to my dismay] as i begin my job as a gardener [my other passion] where i then become a "financial" slave - handing over my paychecks to make up for there 3 months [not yet over] unemployed, regarless of His [comfy] financial status the last thing i want is to be considered a burden.. wether its one He could afford or not.

.. so until i am a *breeding* slave [;)] i will have to deal with the pleasures of handing over my paychecks and knowing i am making His life a little easier [:)]



BBBTBW -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 10:20:57 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NOESCAPEPRISONER

in the old days, you know the deep south and all that.
slaves were bought and sold and put to work in the home, or the field's.
Why is it then that modern so called owner's want a slave who wil do all their running errand's,housework,repair's,personal need's. and then expect them to work outside the home to make them rich, or at least more comfortable.
personally this slave makes a distincion between a service slave, and a financial one.
dont get slave wrong, each to their own.
Why do slave's who prefer to stay at home and take care of their owner's, get so much bad press.
A genuine slave will give his all, and suffer untold humiliation,pain, and degredation. please show him some respect.
This is slaves own personal view and in no way reflect's on any individuals.


In "the old days" as you so eloquently put it, slaves that were owned were working to make their MASTERS RICH.  They were working the farms or other industries that brought in the income that supported the Master, his family and the slaves.  Then the slaves were treated with less respect than barnyard animals.  They were raped, pilaged, plundered, slopped and left to fend for themselves til the next day and it started over again.  Is this really what you want?  Come see me, I think we can work something out.

<feeling really EVIL right now>



LadyEllen -> RE: making Dom/mes comfortable??? (2/1/2007 10:42:56 AM)

In the "good old days" there were no vacuum cleaners, washing machines and the like, and housework was an all day, all week affair. So it made sense to have a slave or several for the house, whilst others worked to make wealth for their owners.

Nowadays of course, housework can be done in a few hours in the course of a week, so unless the owner lives in a palace, a house slave should have plenty of time on their hands for other duties, or for working part time or even full time to add to their owner's wealth.

Having said that though, after being head cook and bottle washer whilst unemployed for six months a few years ago, it is amazing where the day goes! Take kids to school, housework and stuff, bring kids home from school, start cooking, serve meal and eat, wash up, put kids to bed about 8pm, knackered!

E



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