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Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 3:44:28 PM   
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I'm in the last stages of writing my dissertation, and am committed to defending it this semester, probably at the end of March/ early April.  The idea of the defense scares me to death.  I literally start shaking and feel dizzy when I think about it.

When I was younger into my 20's I was afraid of public speaking, but have gotten over that mostly by telling myself its ok to fail and there will always be a next time when I can do better.  I can now comfortably walk into a classroom of 18 to 21 year olds (the toughest audience imaginable...older students are so much easier) and do my thing.  But, with this, there is no next time, no dress rehersal, nothing like that.  Its a one-shot deal.  I'm at a loss for good thoughts to tell myself.

I have a lot of confidence in my work.  I know its good, but its written and writings pretty easy for me.   I can't talk and think at the same time especially in a situation where people are asking me questions that I'm supposed to know the answer to.  My mind goes absolutely blank.  When I'm teaching, I can use that to my advantage and I have a lot helps that I've come up with to get me through trouble spots, but they won't work in this situation.

Any suggestions?




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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 3:49:36 PM   
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Visualize yourself in front of the committee performing at your peak, answering every question in an articulate staight-foward manner. Picture their reaction being positive and thoughtful. Do this visualization every day, and then stop when it feels like work, or your you start to feel nervous and only picture this in a positive way. It is what athletes do to better their performance and reduce performance anxiety. It works well for anything.

Being slightly anxious helps us perform, being overly anxious not so. Remember that these people know what you are going through, having been there themselves. They are not out to get you, they are just out to make sure that you deserve the recognition of the highest academic accolade that can be bestowed upon you.

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 4:15:27 PM   
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I don't really have advice, just a big congratulations on your nearing the completion of the dissertation!

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 4:37:33 PM   
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Well, congrats! I guess there is always my mom's old advice about picturing people you are intimidated by in their underwear (she said it worked for her). I does work - for some people. Might want to try that.

I know a woman who has a Ph.D. in mathematics, and her assessment of her dissertation evaluation committee was that they were "all a bunch of ivory-tower snobs with way too much time on their hands" (she was not fond of the "halls of upper academia"). Thinking along those lines might help, too (if it isn't self-destructive, that is). By the time she finally gave her dissertation, she was way to pissed off at anyone on that committee to really give much of a rat's ass about feeling intimidated by any of them. And she "passed" with flying colors.

Plus, you've probably put way too much work into things to want much too go wrong. Of course, you don't want to think too much about that, or it might make you too tense - but - you're such a bright woman - you deserve to get a good evaluation, most likely (don't you?) You've earned it. Think about that part - it's not "arrogant" - it only makes sense.

Good luck.

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 4:49:35 PM   
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Tape record your dissertation then lip-sinc it :)

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 4:53:53 PM   
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Get some friends to be your practice judges and run through it a few times.

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 5:09:35 PM   
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Understand who you have a duty to satisfy. That is you, who cares about the audience - will you ever seem them again? Are they even friends?

You don't owe the audience anything. Social anxiety is wrapped up in the belief that you must please those around you. In this scenario, you are under no obligation to please anyone. Concentrate on what you want to say rather than the reactions of the people around you. All that matters is you do yourself justice. Effectively, you're giving a presentation to yourself, there just happens to be a few people sat around listening.



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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 5:10:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: gypsygrl

I'm in the last stages of writing my dissertation, and am committed to defending it this semester, probably at the end of March/ early April.  The idea of the defense scares me to death.  I literally start shaking and feel dizzy when I think about it.

When I was younger into my 20's I was afraid of public speaking, but have gotten over that mostly by telling myself its ok to fail and there will always be a next time when I can do better.  I can now comfortably walk into a classroom of 18 to 21 year olds (the toughest audience imaginable...older students are so much easier) and do my thing.  But, with this, there is no next time, no dress rehersal, nothing like that.  Its a one-shot deal.  I'm at a loss for good thoughts to tell myself.

I have a lot of confidence in my work.  I know its good, but its written and writings pretty easy for me.   I can't talk and think at the same time especially in a situation where people are asking me questions that I'm supposed to know the answer to.  My mind goes absolutely blank.  When I'm teaching, I can use that to my advantage and I have a lot helps that I've come up with to get me through trouble spots, but they won't work in this situation.

Any suggestions?


I once had the same aversion.  Don't think...talk.  Tell your story.

One of the great things of age is...you can tell your story. (And...you have one to tell).

Once you do...it's no longer a speech...it's a discussion.

(From that point on, it's just you and your history).

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 5:12:44 PM   
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Well, congrats! I guess there is always my mom's old advice about picturing people you are intimidated by in their underwear (she said it worked for her).


(I tried that...it didn't work for me...especially when I started masturbating about halfway through due to the 3 - 19 year old women in the front....the police totally fucked up my entire speech).

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 5:26:44 PM   
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Howdy gypsygirl,

Congrats on finishing your thesis and break a leg on your impending orals.  I myself have dealt with an almost crippling stage fright most of my life. I hate public speaking with a passion.  I dislike being in situations where people want me to know answers and ask me questions.

But I have forced myself to teach classes of all types.  I have forced myself to speak in public.  It does get easier the more you do it.

A piece of advice I was given when I started doing the self defense thing I do, act as if.  This means that you act as if what you just did or said was what you intended to have done or said.  Remember that none of the people you are presenting to know what you are about to say or do.

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/27/2007 6:08:30 PM   
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One tactic you can use if you happen to draw a blank is to question the questioner while you compose your thoughts -- ask for a clarification or repeat the question in your own words "do you mean blah blah blah?"

Another stalling tactic is to answer another related question that you have down pat, finishing with "does that answer your question?" You might even get away with it if they say "yes"; otherwise it at least gets your brain working so you might be able to answer the other one. Politicians do this all the time to dodge questions they don't want to answer, except  they don't volunteer to keep going  if it isn't the right answer.

Hope that helps, and best of luck!


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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 1:43:24 AM   
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I am going to be harsh now, which really goes against my basic nature lol, but I think that your claim that your dissertation is "good and well written" paradoxically might point to what could go wrong.
It only requires someone to expose some odd angle that you may have overlooked and bang <the old mind going blank panic> starts and that could be the beginning of the end.

So my suggestion is to make a note of every possible flaw or opposing view/concept in what you are trying to present and work out a response beforehand. I have no idea what presenting a dissertation involves but I assume "peers and above" are trying to test your reasoning skills.
NB not knowing does not stop me commenting lol

Hope that helps.

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 4:44:26 AM   
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Anytime I have had to do public speaking, I always get nervous before hand...and worry. Yes..this could go wrong, I might not remember this and that, all the normal panic issues come to mind. BUT...when the time finally comes, when I am the one that all the focus is on...I swear I just go into autopilot mode and it feels like I'm watching someone else speaking. The good thing is...the speaker always answers all the questions right. How do I do this? I haven't a clue, maybe it's a throwback to my drama and stageplay days, but glad it works that way. 

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 5:21:23 AM   
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Well, remember that your explications are great and you have domain in terms of this subject....If you don't know, or have not contemplated some shrivel of a viewpoint, it cannot harm to ask for a moment, and say, could I address this in a few moments I would like some time to formulate and answer to this,  and continue on.  Remember that those who speak less are often judged as more intelligent and in control. Don't run your mouth, say what needs saying and stop.  As they ask the question, towards the end, look away from thier eyes, it helps, kinda like streaming video, start running the answer in your head and get a bunch of it built up before you start yapping. 

So, use time to your advantage, deliberate--answer slowly and succintly.
Before hand, practice practice practice, consider what they may ask and have some simple answers kinda prebuilt.

HAVE A MESSAGE--- from your body of work, pick out NO MORE than 4 major themes and answer all questions in terms of those themes.  If the examiners are to remember one goddamn thing you said that will stick with them, as opposed to an epemeral thought about you were nervous what are they?

YOU HAVE DOMAIN--you know the subject matter, do it.
WHEN YOU HAVE DONE EVERTHING THERE IS TO DO, be done with it, couple days or more before the examination, put the shit away and forget it.  It will help kinda like that guys name you are trying to remember, stop thinking about it and it will come to you.

YOU HAVE MY EXPRESS PERMISSION TO FALL APART AFTERWARDS, grab a 20, get drunk, debauch yourself beyond your best self interests, buy a homeless man with a cock the size of Italy.....but just wait until after, on the day, you be cool calm and collected, maybe take one shot of vodka and do your breath before you go in.

You will do well, quit your bitchin'.  Now you know why men have erectile dysfunction, some bitch told them that they should think with something other than their dick. Bad fuckin' advice.

Sincerely and Admiringly,
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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 7:15:05 AM   
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Hello gypsygrl,
 
Have you searched in your area for the local Toastmaster's group?
I know a few people who have over-come their fear of public

speaking by having a supportive group structure.  Also, fear
of public speaking is one of the most common phobias, there
should be some local self-help groups and therapists who are
specialists in the field.
 
Many others here have given good advice about practicing
and rehearsing and thinking of possible questions. 
In preparation for the big day, treat it like any other stage
performance; have your clothing and hair prepared,
eat lightly, do not over-caffeinate yourself or you may
talk to fast or get the jitters, and arrive early.
 
When it is all over, do go out and celebrate with your
friends and family!
 
Bravo on completing your dissertation! 

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 7:29:31 AM   
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CONGRATS on the dissertation.!!!!

I am ABD and I don't care anymore.  but anyway....

A couple of things....the imagining people in underwear tends to not work....that is not what you are going to expereince. But pre-visualization has been VERY effective for me.. I had TERRIBLE performance anxiety...I am a singer and a teacher of singers.

As much as you can practice seeing "what you are really going to see."  That way when you actually get in there, you have already experienced it in your mind. Work through it repeatedly, allowing for a variety of questions.  And then ALWAYS see yourself being successful. See them all smiling at you, shaking your hand, patting you on the back.  Affirmations and affirming visualizations tend to create success.

This may seem odd, but I would encourage you to read "Is There a Cure for Performance Anxiety?" (chapter 63, pages 195-199) In Richard Miller's On the Art of Singing (1996). (I have included details in case your library doesn't have it and you need to use inter-library loan).  It was very revelaing to me and helped me got honest about my preparation to perform.  It applies equally to all types of performing (singing, speaking, being a human being in public, etc.)

Again, HUGE KUDOS!!!!!!

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 9:51:18 AM   
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Another idea relates to how this particular performance anxiety depends on your familiarity with the audience. Your advisor can be seen as an ally who understands your work well enough to lob softball questions, but there could be others there who don't know you as well and would likely be the ones who worry you most.

Perhaps it would be possible to "presell" your work and develop a relationship with them before the defense. That could help put them on the same page and would also likely ease some of your tension and improve your chance for success.

I dunno how these committees work or if there would be a problem doing this, but perhaps your advisor has some ideas about it too.


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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 1:24:41 PM   
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First, thanks to everyone for the great suggestions.  They're all extremely practical, which is incredibly helpful in getting myself to a point I can manage the anxiety by channeling it.  Just writing out the op helped me get a grip but then I got up this morning to find all these useful comments and was like, oh cool. :)

Juliaoceania:
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Visualize yourself in front of the committee performing at your peak, answering every question in an articulate staight-foward manner. Picture their reaction being positive and thoughtful. Do this visualization every day, and then stop when it feels like work, or your you start to feel nervous and only picture this in a positive way. It is what athletes do to better their performance and reduce performance anxiety. It works well for anything.


This is a really good thought because what I'm doing is more like an athletic performance than other kinds of perfomances, because I'll have to field questions from my readers which is kind of unpredictable.  The stuff I came accross googling all had to do with acting and musical performances, and emphasized preparation and practice but doesn't really take into account the possibility of something happening that isn't anticipated. 

SusanofO
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 I know a woman who has a Ph.D. in mathematics, and her assessment of her dissertation evaluation committee was that they were "all a bunch of ivory-tower snobs with way too much time on their hands" (she was not fond of the "halls of upper academia"). Thinking along those lines might help, too (if it isn't self-destructive, that is). By the time she finally gave her dissertation, she was way to pissed off at anyone on that committee to really give much of a rat's ass about feeling intimidated by any of them. And she "passed" with flying colors. 


So many graduate students end up like this, and its something I want to avoid. (Remember the unibomber?)  For me, it would be self-destructive and I'm really trying to move past my first couple of years of grad school when I was a very pissed off, everyone sucks kind of student. In all honesty, I can't be too pissed off because I recieved 4 years of financial support from the university, and keep getting teaching and other kinds of jobs.  Its a crappy system in a lot of ways--I know that--but I have to suspend that knowledge or at least balance it out with more positive thoughts.   And, thank you for your kind words. :)  I guess part of the trick is to start believing things like that.  (My therapist tells me that.)

LuckyAlbatross:  Practice always helps, yes.

NorthernGent:
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Understand who you have a duty to satisfy. That is you, who cares about the audience - will you ever seem them again? Are they even friends?

You don't owe the audience anything. Social anxiety is wrapped up in the belief that you must please those around you. In this scenario, you are under no obligation to please anyone. Concentrate on what you want to say rather than the reactions of the people around you. All that matters is you do yourself justice. Effectively, you're giving a presentation to yourself, there just happens to be a few people sat around listening. 


In one sense no, in this situation, I don't owe anyone anything except myself.  But, I have to pass the defense to get the degree.  Its one of the requirements.  The 5 readers have to approve my dissertation and my ability to defend my argument.  But, I think it makes sense not to get over invested in other people's reactions and to stay focused on what I'm supposed to be doing.

LTRsubNW:

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I once had the same aversion.  Don't think...talk.  Tell your story.

One of the great things of age is...you can tell your story. (And...you have one to tell).

Once you do...it's no longer a speech...it's a discussion.

(From that point on, it's just you and your history).

 

In general, dissertation defenses are designed along criticism and debate lines, which can potentially be confrontational.  I'm doing historical research in a social scientifically oriented school of education.  Its tough to get away with story telling, though because I'm doing historical research, and history has a strong narrative tradition, I can and do tell a story in my dissertation.  But, I've had to do a lot of work to get this accepted by people other than my advisor (who's a historian but its an interdisciplinary department of mostly philosophers and sociologists.)  In this situation, if someone comes in with a chip on their shoulder against stories, I'll have to deal with it.  Alot depends on the readers but some simply don't tolerate the 'soft' story telling, discussion mode and want 'hard' science or at least logical arguments.  Unfortunately, history doesn't always conform to the rules of logic and my job is to present the history whether or not its logical.  If anyone has a major problem with my basic thesis, it won't go to defense, so there shouldn't be any real trouble but you've hit on one of my major concerns.  :)

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Well, congrats! I guess there is always my mom's old advice about picturing people you are intimidated by in their underwear (she said it worked for her).



(I tried that...it didn't work for me...especially when I started masturbating about halfway through due to the 3 - 19 year old women in the front....the police totally fucked up my entire speech). 



I once gave an off the cuff lecture on the history of masturbation in a class I was teaching.  It was a great lecture but totally spontaneous, and I think its best if I avoid anything having to do with underwear in this situation because once I get going there's no telling whats going to come out of my mouth.

Sinergy:

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  A piece of advice I was given when I started doing the self defense thing I do, act as if.  This means that you act as if what you just did or said was what you intended to have done or said.  Remember that none of the people you are presenting to know what you are about to say or do.



Thats a good thing for me to think about.  I know that people are going to read things in the text of my dissertation that I didn't intentionally put there because of the kind of writer I am.  I don't want to be flummoxed when someone brings up a point I made that I didn't mean to make.  If its in the text, its fair game, but...

happypervert: Yes, stalling tactics!  Those are the kinds of things I do in the class room when my brain refuses to cooperate.  The chalkboard's my friend because I can always turn towards it (and away from the students) make a show of writing something out while I compose myself and get myself into gear. Having a list of gracefull stalling tactics sounds like a really good idea.

seeksfemslave: You're not being harsh.  Its a good point.  I have to be prepared to hear criticism because thats the name of the game. In general, if it goes to defense at all, I can safely assume its good because my committee wouldn't let it go that far if it wasn't.  But, part of the idea of the defense is to assess the candidate's ability to field criticism and there's always something that can be improved.  I think your suggestion of going through it and listing all the flaws, short comings and stuff is a good one.  And, yes its 'peers and above' though mostly above.

Scootertrash:  Yeah, I do this kind of dissociation all the time especially when I'm doing public speaking or something stressful like that.  It works when I'm calling the shots, like when I'm teaching, but I'm not calling the shots here.  So, I really don't know if this tendency will work to my advantage or not.  If I'm dissociated, I cant always process complex verbal cues which may be problematic in understanding questions.  Though, as I'm writing this, I'm thinking that there's probably no harm in asking someone to restate their questions. 

mnottertail:  All good suggestions.  I do have domain.  No one in my department really knows what I'm talking about except for what they read in my dissertation.  Its one of the good/bad things about doing original research.  On the one hand, I get to be the expert.  On the other hand, if they ask an uninformed question that doesn't make sense, I have to figure out a way to tactfully address it.  And yes, when I searched out 'performance anxiety,' I kept getting links to pages on erectile dysfunction which brought to mind images of Bob Dole...in his underwear.  And Ted Kennedy.  In his underwear.  From there its a slippery slope down down down into the abyss. 

Vendaval:

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  In preparation for the big day, treat it like any other stage
performance; have your clothing and hair prepared,
eat lightly, do not over-caffeinate yourself or you may
talk to fast or get the jitters, and arrive early.



This is the sort of really important stuff I'm likely to forget.  Once, I was giving a talk and absentmindly put my hand-outs on the roof of my car while I was unlocking it.  I drove off and saw in my rear view mirror all my carefully prepared handouts fluttering in the wind behind me.  It was really funny but I had to go to my presentation empty handed.  I should take your list and tatoo it to my forehead so I remember to do those things. :)

newsubseeking61:

There was a good 3 year stint where I was ABD and didn't care anymore.  For me, I think it was a reaction to the intensity of course work and examinations.

But, yeah, I was reading web pages about musical performance anxiety, and it was informative especially getting a grip on some of the cognitive processes involved.  Thanks for the reference. :)

happypervert:  The way it works, is there's 3 members on my committee who I've been showing my work to for years.  One of those is my advisor and he's in my court.  The other two are philosophers so we spend a lot of time arguing over disciplinary differences between history and philosophy and alot of their questions are shaped by their disciplinary committments.  They're not exactly sure if they like my work, but thats more because its 'not philosophy.'  Its an inter-disciplinary department so I've done alot of 'selling'.  I can't assume anything but am pretty sure they'll back me. But, they could ask a really hard question.  At the defense, there will be 2 outside readers in addition to my committee members and the chair of the the defense committee.  These 3 are wildcards but they'll probably be either psychologically or sociologically oriented and from what I've seen from attending other students' defenses, theres a good possibility that I'll spend alot of time answering criticisms based on disciplinary differences or methodological issues and won't be able to go into the substance.  But, it will be my job to 'sell' my work.

Again, thanks for all the comments. :)

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 1:46:44 PM   
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First off, congratulations on getting the dissertation done! No mean feat, I'm told.

I don't know anything about defending a dissertation, but several thoughts come to mind:

(a) A goodly time before the defense (i.e., not the night before), can you get another grad student or two to read it over and pose some tough questions? That way, you can begin to formulate answers. (I suppose I'm repeating LA's suggestion. Oh well.)

(b) Get a good night's sleep the night beforehand.

(c) Pick an outfit that's comfortable and makes you feel confident.

(d) Keep in mind that you know *far* more about the specific material in your dissertation than any of the folks questioning you. You're the expert in the room!

Good luck!

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RE: Performance Anxiety - 1/28/2007 2:33:27 PM   
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Gypsygrl,

First of all Big Congradulations!  To do what
you have done to date is no small accomplishment.

I want to echo and reinforce what Ron said with
some additions.  The technique I am about to
describe is one I have used and I have seen others
use with great success. 

Once you have identified the major themes that
Ron spoke about sit down and write out an
essay on each one.
  Just like you were answering
an essay test question. 

Go away for awhile (hours) and then come back
and read it.  Don't despair it's only practice.  Then
rewrite it until you are happy with it.  Do this for
each major theme.  Then continue to read and
refine these answers over the course of a few days
until you are happy with them.  Then read them on
a regular basis until they become part of you.

When someone on the committee asks you a
question use it as an opportunity to lead into
one of these well thought out developed answers.
You will feel comfortable and impress them no end
with your thoroughness and depth of thought.

I have used this technique and I have taught it.
And more than one student has come back to
say it was one of the best things they learned.

I repeat, to have done what you have done
is already a significant achievement.  You have
already proven you are a capable person.

Now go in there prepared and knock em dead.

Outlier




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