Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt

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MistressYlwa -> Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 2:18:56 PM)
quote: "I think I feel so much more for Madd and Zee because they're survivors, they came through so much," Jolie says in the new issue of U.K. Elle. "Shiloh seemed so privileged from the moment she was born. I have less inclination to feel for her...I met my other kids when they were 6 months old, they came with a personality. A newborn really is this...Yes, a blob! But now she's starting to have a personality...I'm conscious that I have to make sure I don't ignore her needs, just because I think the others are more vulnerable." http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,242537,00.html I am sure that Shiloh will appreciate this when she is older. And you can bet someone will show it to her. As a person who is so aware of their public influence and who promotes it, she has made one hell of a statement here. A normal mother begins knowing and loving the child she carries long before it is born. I would ask Ms. Jolie if she ever connected to this child? Children are not for entertainment, though the press would beg to differ. With privilege comes responsibility. As to her child being born priviliged, I am sure she was aware of that before the child was born. She has to make a concious decision not to ignore her needs? Please, give that child a break. I wonder where Brad is on this subject. *forgot to add the article link. lol

juliaoceania -> RE: Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 2:32:54 PM)
Golly, lets hold every statement you ever made as a mother up under a microscope and disect it... that is if you are even a mother... puuuhhhlllleeeeeaaaaassssseeeee, your judgmentalness about someone you do not know based upon a dozen or so words is rather much dontcha think?

MistressYlwa -> RE: Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 2:57:53 PM)
First I will answer your question. Yes I am a mother. As a mother, I found her statements very disturbing. Any mother would be upset, hearing a woman state that she has to make a concious decision to care for her child. And no, I don't think I am being judgemental in my statements. Any more than Jolie's judgements about her child and her feelings about that child. I was very clear in stating that as a public figure, it is important to be aware of what you are saying, as it will come back to you, one way or the other. She chose to make those statements and I chose to respond to them.

Celeste43 -> RE: Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 3:07:05 PM)
Actually I understand what she is saying albeit she did not word it very well. I have a special needs child and another child who is extremely competent and well adjusted. Because I need to spend so much time focused on the mentally ill one, and because it is so exhausting, there is a tendency not to pay attention to the well one. To believe that he will understand if I don't make it to his game because I spent the morning at the therapist talking about the ill one's overwhelming needs. He will understand of course because he has to deal with her too but he will also feel unloved and uncared for to some extent. Any mother of a handicapped child knows this dilemna. About newborns vs older children. I happen to love babies, was watching one at the wrestling meet yesterday and I just wanted another baby despite the fact that I'm too old to take proper care of one. However my mother, who loved all of her kids was straight forward about much preferring them once they got to be about two and were verbal. She did what was needful and we've all turned out fine, but she just enjoyed children more when they could talk. She might however have regretted it once she had three adolescents in the house:)

deadbluebird -> RE: Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 3:07:56 PM)
i think your twisting her words. she didnt say she has to make a concious decision to care for her child. first of all, see all the ....'s in there. other things were likely said.. or the reporter said things maybe changing direction of what shes saying. anyway, she said she is conscious that she has to make sure she dosn't ignore her needs. obviously she cares for the child if shes worried about needs being overlooked. i have to go so i cant comment as much as i'd like for now, i'll be back to this later. :)

juliaoceania -> RE: Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 3:18:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressYlwa First I will answer your question. Yes I am a mother. As a mother, I found her statements very disturbing. Any mother would be upset, hearing a woman state that she has to make a concious decision to care for her child. And no, I don't think I am being judgemental in my statements. Any more than Jolie's judgements about her child and her feelings about that child. I was very clear in stating that as a public figure, it is important to be aware of what you are saying, as it will come back to you, one way or the other. She chose to make those statements and I chose to respond to them. You know, I have said things to people that if taken out of context would be very damning of me as a mother. I am not a perfect mother... and yet here I have this teenage unmentionable that adores me utterly. I guess he did not expect perfection. You know there are mothers all over the world who successfully reared their children and they did not always feel loving, or motherly, or any of the other things that people expect mothers to feel always and forever... to me it is not what we feel that measures our humanity, but what we DO that is the true measure of our character... now if you posted that she had done something and admitted it, I would have a different view... we all have feelings we are not proud of, or do not reflect well on us, such as anger and jealousy... and yes, you are judgmental, and if you think for one minute that I think you are a saint that never had a doubt about your ability to mother, I do not believe it for a single second, because real people have real doubts about themselves and the people they have in their lives.

Devilslilsister -> RE: Mom Liked You Best - Shiloh Jolie-Pitt (1/26/2007 4:27:57 PM)
I dont think it matters what we think she means, or what she meant. I think what matters is how shiloh will interpret it years later. No one can decided how she will take it either. She may understand, she may be miffed, or it may royally upset her. I think it was a stupid idea on Jolie's part to put it into print. Who cares if its the truth and if no harm was ment. Like i said, what matters is how Shiloh will interpret it years to come. On that note, my mother has also said some wickedly stupid things. First of all she didnt want a second child (me), second of all she never wanted a daughter (screwed her twice didnt i) and third of all - my existance was up for debate when it came to abortion/non abortion. No matter my mother's intentions, thoughts afterwards, or whatever - its a stupid thing to say. People need to learn to think about how their words will affect others. So like i said..... what matters is how Shiloh will take it years to come (and any other remarks her mother makes)

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