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Real0ne -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 9:31:19 AM)
sounds liket the pot calling the kettle black to me! Support yourselves, plural! ------------------------------------------------------------------ The IRS Has Been Losing High Profile Jury Trials Since August, 2003, the government has failed to prove its claims in income tax-related cases to at least three juries. These recent acquittals support claims that government has no authority to tax wages as income and no “law” compels employers to withhold a portion of employees’ wages. http://www.truthintaxation.us/?tax_inform=losingTrials

lucreziaborgia -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 9:35:28 AM)
sorry DV. Yes - big difference between being functional and being used. It sounded as if you were saying dominants can be total slackers. Hell, if dominants can't lead, have no drive, sit home and drool all day.... why, why, why would anyone deem them "dominant" or especially "masters"! Laughing out loud! slacker slaves are [:'(] as well. if you don't work outside the home - then go rake the f'ing leaves and scrub the tub - work! Be useful ( but don't be sucker or be "used" in a negative sense either). Give and take with respect and service. your friend, LC

LeatherBentOne -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 11:00:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GirlyDevil Good day to all, I have looked in other posts regarding money problems but could not find what I was looking for, so I'm gonna hopefully post one here that hasn't already been posted. I have just got a new slave and he doesn't have any money or transportation and lives with several other people. He expects me to pay for him whenever we go out, which isn't often, or to pay for movies, etc. I do not have a job, either does he, but I also have my own place and need to make rent on it. I don't have the money to take him out, or to drive across the city to get him. He's offered to pay me back, but says that when he get more money next month it will have to go toward his "rent payment". Of which he doesn't contribute anything to his house. I've talked to his roommates about it and they all seem to agree with me that yes he needs a job and yes he needs reliable transportation. I've told him to at least get $10 for his share of dinner but he doesn't have anything. He's also looking into a 24/7 but wouldn't be able to pay his share of the rent. Am I being a b*** about it? Anyone have any suggestions for it? Thank you all Im permanently disabled and cannot work for the rest of my life. I live with my sub and pay my share even though SSI doesn't go very far at all. I also do 90% of housework, cooking and laundry to make up for the difference that Id be able to contribute if I were able to work. We discussed this and agreed upon the arrangement before we moved in but even before then, when we were just dating, I fully disclosed my predicament and gave proof in writing as to my situation, then let her decide. Btw, she pays when we go out. Hoping you make a wise decision, LBO

LeatherBentOne -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 11:09:04 AM)
Just for the record before I get blasted...............lol Also, I lived on my own quite well, and was totally independent from the onset of my illness and before moving in with my sub. I worked continuously and was self-sufficient for 38 consecutive years beforehand. Then again, that required a sense of responsibilty on my part.

lucreziaborgia -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 11:31:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucreziaborgia Since when don't dominants have to be responsible, fully functioning adults? ( apologies to the infirmed, ill, disabled, or those in hard times - these are exceptions) Who would take orders from a LOSER? LeatherBentOne: Wishing you love and happiness. A fine person such as you, who suffered and survives in spirit - as I said above- is a great exception. You are quite a woman. It is the users, abusers, exploiters who are reprehensible. Respects to a Lady

CreativeDominant -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 1:24:26 PM)
I will add to the chorus of naysayers.... He needs to get a job. You need to get a job. Unless you have a reasonable explanation such as the one LeatherBentOne offers up...there is NO excuse. I've worked since I was 13...38 years now. Still working. Expect any submissive that wants to be with me to work unless she is independently wealthy. And even if she is...I'll still work. To me, it is what grown-up, responsible people do when they are on their own and nowadays...given the financial realities of trying to live as a couple...both had better be up for it.

windchymes -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 1:42:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble If you want to be his Sugar Mama, keep him, if you don't, dump him or just don't take him out to do stuff. (And you should remove the part of your profile where you say you'll pay for little treats and stuff like that as well.) If he doesn't have a job, does that mean he's in school? Even if he's going to school, he can get some kind of part-time job to bring in a few extra bucks for stuff. If he's not working or going to school.. just what the hell is he doing? Your eyes are wide open on this, so you can't complain later on if you get burned. Oh, and anytime you pay for something that he says he'll pay you back for, get it in writing that way you can prove it on People's Court. :) Celeste Judge Judy would have a field day.......lol

velvetears -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 2:03:12 PM)
i haven't read all the posts but the first thought that came to mind is put the "activities" aside for the moment at least and support each other in finding jobs so you can both become stable enough and secure enough to be able to go to the next step. When your worried about paying rent i don't know how a dinner out can even be enjoyable?? If your with him then it's assumed hes important to you. Not saying this is the case with your sub but i have heard many a story about suppossed "subs or slaves" coming to a dom/me expecting financial support, they are looking for someone to take care of them. Same can go the other way as well. Suppossed "doms or Masters" who convince the sub/slave its her job and obligation to work and make life comfortable for him. i guess if it's what both want then more power to them, but many do it in a decietful way - with lies, pressure, guilting etc. Good luck to you both!

LTRsubNW -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 4:58:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GirlyDevil Good day to all, I have looked in other posts regarding money problems but could not find what I was looking for, so I'm gonna hopefully post one here that hasn't already been posted. I have just got a new slave and he doesn't have any money or transportation and lives with several other people. He expects me to pay for him whenever we go out, which isn't often, or to pay for movies, etc. I do not have a job, either does he, but I also have my own place and need to make rent on it. I don't have the money to take him out, or to drive across the city to get him. He's offered to pay me back, but says that when he get more money next month it will have to go toward his "rent payment". Of which he doesn't contribute anything to his house. I've talked to his roommates about it and they all seem to agree with me that yes he needs a job and yes he needs reliable transportation. I've told him to at least get $10 for his share of dinner but he doesn't have anything. He's also looking into a 24/7 but wouldn't be able to pay his share of the rent. Am I being a b*** about it? Anyone have any suggestions for it? Thank you all I'm sorry...was there an actual and rational question here?

freetime05 -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/27/2007 6:41:27 PM)
You should not have to pay your subs way, peeriod.

ScooterTrash -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/28/2007 5:01:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GirlyDevil I have just got a new slave and he doesn't have any money or transportation and lives with several other people. .....I don't have the money to take him out, or to drive across the city to get him. .....He's also looking into a 24/7 but wouldn't be able to pay his share of the rent. Maybe it's just me, but none of this equates to an Owner/slave relationship in my mind, in the first place. Sounds like you want to own the car, but want it to buy it's own gas...OH, and stay in someone elses garage. More issues here than just unemployment it sounds like. Ownership has it's rewards, but also carries along with it some responsibilities.

orfunboi -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/28/2007 6:22:12 AM)
Not sure how your making it without a job, but finding one would be my first suggestion. Kicking the boy to the curb would be my next. Maybe i am just in a bitchy mood or maybe this post brought back memories of alex (my ex roommate who feels the world should support him). Either way, i wouldn't waste my time on someone who can't support themselves.

orfunboi -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/28/2007 6:29:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GirlyDevil quote: ORIGINAL: Sunshine119 You're kidding right? It sounds like you both need to get work. I've had several interviews in the past few days and may have a job starting next week but not sure yet. Good, that means you already realize you need to work, that's step one. And please don't judge people based on facts alone, especially if you don't know the whole story You are the one who came and posted as much of the "whole story" as you felt necessary to get answers. Don't bitch now if the answers are not always what you want. This is the internet after all.

feastie -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/28/2007 7:52:53 AM)
From the OP's own profile... "You must have reliable transportation and be financially well off. " Someone lookin for her own free ride on the back of her "slave"? Hmmmm...

LeatherBentOne -> RE: Money Issues?? (1/29/2007 5:57:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lucreziaborgia quote: ORIGINAL: lucreziaborgia Since when don't dominants have to be responsible, fully functioning adults? ( apologies to the infirmed, ill, disabled, or those in hard times - these are exceptions) Who would take orders from a LOSER? LeatherBentOne: Wishing you love and happiness. A fine person such as you, who suffered and survives in spirit - as I said above- is a great exception. You are quite a woman. It is the users, abusers, exploiters who are reprehensible. Respects to a Lady To: lucreziaborgia: Thanks for the compliment but my determination and perseverance comes from selfish reasons of my own. I prefer to like myself and who I see when I wake up and look in the mirror each morning. I think the issue is directly related to self-esteem as a person and as a Domme. I owe it to myself first, then to my submissive. Plus, I want to altruistically benefit and make some sense as to why this happened to me, rather than sit back with a defeatist attitude and become another victim. Although this body may not be in the best physical condition, there's nothing wrong with my mind. It takes much strength and determination to make the best of things when life throws one a curve ball, but that's what determines our character, self-worth and self-image. If I'm not for me, who the else can be? In my quest to make sense of this, I decided that there must be a prophetic reason why I became ill and and cheated death for 5 weeks, lying on my back wondering if I'd wave good-bye to my last dying breath. (Kinda changes one's perspective on living.) Oh, I bitched and moaned for a while, my own pity party. Then I got real angry with what "happened" to me. Then, a light bulb went off in my head. Guess what? I realised that instead of allowing things "happen" to me, I decided that Id make things "happen." So.....I started a non-profit, charitable foundation to help fight life-threatening illness ~ to raise direct funding for those afflicted and are uninsured/under-insured, to help them find quality health care, and to put a bomb up Congress' ass to make health care reform. A bill was initated in Congess as a result (2005 and 2007). Three committees voted earlier this month to appropriate $750,000 to the American Medical Association to research the need in allowing the disabled with life-threatening illness to be exempt from the 2yr waiting list before receiving Medicare. Incidently, 400,000 disabled people die each year waiting for their benefits. Hopefully, this bill will pass the President's desk and become a new law. (For those interested search: H.R. 2869, H.R. 154, and S. 1217.) To: OP I hope my story inspires you. You can make things happen, instead of them happening to you. Best of luck. To Others: I hope that you dont take my post as self-pontificating. I feel I had a point to make and sometimes the best way to do that is to make an example of oneself in trying to help others see that it can be done. LBO

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