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FelinePersuasion -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 11:37:37 AM)

Yup. She did it for her kids. Nice thought really. to bad it turned out so traggically




sub4hire -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 12:40:11 PM)

Question?
Someone has died, was it murder?  Was it an accident?  If the person who chose the contest in the first place had done any research they would have known the potential outcome, which in my mind would be murder.
Common sense tells us they did not know.  Yet, the womans family is going to be mad.  Probably sue.  Is it a criminal case?
Do we send someone to prison the rest of their life because of ignorance?
Does it become a misdemeanor because of the ignorance they possess?

It will be interesting to follow this case as it makes its way through our justice system.  I'm sure someone is going to be held accountable.




MsPoetress -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 1:01:12 PM)

I agree sub4hire. I am interested in the outcome of this as well.

Where does blame lie?

I have worked with the stunt coordinators for Fear Factor, and they do intensive research before having anyone participate in any contest. You would think that anyone who holds a contest as such should be held responsible to do the same kind of research.

Now what we don't know is if the contestants were given any information to state the risks, and if so, they probably had them sign something.

I guess we’ll see what happens.

~poe






kisshou -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 3:40:46 PM)

the Owner and I were discussing this case and wondering if she had signed a release before entering and even if she did if it would hold up in court.

like with fraternity pranks, people keep pushing the envelope until it goes too far, I would guess that the station manager would be fired but worse he has to live with the fact that three young children have to grow up without their mother.




Sinergy -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 4:18:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tantriqu

More people die from so-called 'colon cleansing', it just doesn't make the news. 


"He was full of pep.  Must have had his Grande Latte enema."
Edward Norton, Fight Club




Chaingang -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 4:34:43 PM)

The outcome is almost certainly this: criminal negligence a.k.a. manslaughter. The contest itself is wrong-headed, like having a kiddie slide on your property with a 200 foot drop into a ravine at the end of it. A lawsuit is a certainty. The contest holders enticed people to do something that was fatally stupid and should have known better.

BTW, most people don't know about water intoxication any more than the average 21 year old knows that you can die of alcohol poisoning when going on those b-day binges. But the holders of the contest had a responsibility to know better - a waiver of responsibility might cover them if it specifically pointed out the fatal possibilities. Somehow I doubt such a waiver was drafted.




BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/14/2007 6:33:03 PM)

If I die for something for my lil one, it will be food, health or good education.
Nintendo, nah!     M




sub4hire -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/15/2007 7:05:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Chaingang

The outcome is almost certainly this: criminal negligence a.k.a. manslaughter. The contest itself is wrong-headed, like having a kiddie slide on your property with a 200 foot drop into a ravine at the end of it. A lawsuit is a certainty. The contest holders enticed people to do something that was fatally stupid and should have known better.

BTW, most people don't know about water intoxication any more than the average 21 year old knows that you can die of alcohol poisoning when going on those b-day binges. But the holders of the contest had a responsibility to know better - a waiver of responsibility might cover them if it specifically pointed out the fatal possibilities. Somehow I doubt such a waiver was drafted.


About how much prison time is that?  Let alone the bad publicity that is going to come from it.
I didn't know about water intoxication either until a few year's back I started seeing about 2 people die a year from it.  When it is plastered all over the news...and if you watch the news at all you learn things.  Perhaps you don't delve deeper into it the way I did.  Though you still learn things. 

Remember any of these?
1995-http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_health5.shtml
2003 This one made major news, http://www.mashinc.org/resources-essay-water.html
Basic Training 1999-http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3912/is_199903/ai_n8829718

Then of course the one who also made major news was the child abuse.  They made their child drink copious amounts of water and died...a few year's back.  I see articles on it but nothing firm to add here.
Too much info to go through 1-1 on google.





MizSuz -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/15/2007 8:12:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

im doing a colon cleanse right now.


Me too.  It's called "The Indian food cleanse."   [:D]


Edited for clarification purposes.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/15/2007 8:42:44 AM)

If you're talking about manslaughter, that's a criminal charge, so in that case it wouldn't matter whether there was a waiver of responsibility.  (Think about it: I can't get you to sign some waiver and then blow your brains out.)  I can't imagine a radio station having a contest like this without SOME form of legal protection against civil litigation ("You agree to indemnify" blah blah blah), but who knows.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chaingang

The outcome is almost certainly this: criminal negligence a.k.a. manslaughter.

[snip]

But the holders of the contest had a responsibility to know better - a waiver of responsibility might cover them if it specifically pointed out the fatal possibilities. Somehow I doubt such a waiver was drafted.




MsPoetress -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/15/2007 7:30:25 PM)

New developments:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/new_details_in_.html

~poe




Invictus754 -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/15/2007 7:34:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MsPoetress
New developments:
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/new_details_in_.html
~poe


What is even creepier is the big print "ON DEADLINE" when you click on the link. LOL




sub4hire -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/16/2007 6:59:03 AM)

Hard to believe she only drank 64 ounces of water and it did her in.  I drink 90 while doing cardio alone.  Another 33 while in the spa...and another 33 while in the steam room.

All in the course of 3 hours at the gym.

Perhaps she had an issue beyond what any of us know of?




mnottertail -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/16/2007 7:04:23 AM)

Taking a piss must rival the preparations for the coming of the queen, ja?




sub4hire -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/16/2007 7:09:24 AM)

hehe, your body uses the water you give it when hot.  Most of the time you don't even pee any of it out for many hour's later. 




Lordandmaster -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/26/2007 2:19:59 PM)

They're being sued:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070126/ap_on_re_us/water_intoxication




Rumtiger -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/26/2007 2:46:07 PM)

so.........who got the Wii?




petdave -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/26/2007 4:52:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire

Hard to beliee she only drank 64 ounces of water and it did her in.  I drink 90 while doing cardio alone.  Another 33 while in the spa...and another 33 while in the steam room.

All in the course of 3 hours at the gym.

Perhaps she had an issue beyond what any of us know of?



Seriously... after this was in the news i kept track of what i drank over the course of a normal day (zero exercise)... almost 500 ounces! [:-] Too bad there won't be any contests like that again.

...dave




Devilslilsister -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/26/2007 5:05:46 PM)

Hasnt anyone heard of Leah Betts?

the girl that got sorted....... then distorted?

Died from water.....

Well she took some E on her birthday....... drank some water.. and because of the E she couldnt expell the water and well her body blew up from the water (distorted)




Hissltviolet -> RE: Woman Dies After Water Drinking Contest (1/26/2007 6:41:39 PM)

...LMAO!!!...




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