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PONYSEEKER -> Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 11:33:54 AM)

I would like more info on forced orgasms more specifically what different methods can be used / for how long to do it and what kind of effect does it have on the sub like most common complaints about it.




onestandingstill -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 11:44:30 AM)

I can't help much other than I know how to stop one is to think about unsexy things.
Repetitive denial and then being permitted to cum makes the orgasms much more intense for me.
I've also had times where I was manipulated into more than 20 orgasms in one scene.
It left me sore and dehydrated, but lol of course for me it was very fun. I've heard some women don't like too much stimulation as it makes them sore inside if they cum too many times.
Good luck with figuring out the rest and when you get it please explain it to me.
I'd love to cum on command, but have not been trained successfully to do that yet.
suzanne




PONYSEEKER -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 11:47:34 AM)

Will do Suzanne and thank you much for your reply.
Although I am curioise about the 20 orgasms... thats an incredibly high number to reach.  I can never get more than 5-6
out of my sub...LOL




RedSavageSlave -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 11:59:36 AM)

My only complaint is that once being trained into forced orgasms..it becomes difficult to achieve "normal flow" orgasms. While some doms and subs may like it..it actually leaves me kind of sad to be honest.





SweetPosession -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 12:01:53 PM)

That depends on the woman. It usually takes me more than an hour of stimulation to reach orgasm, but my best friend can have sex with the same person the same way and get off every two minutes.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 12:02:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER

I would like more info on forced orgasms more specifically what different methods can be used / for how long to do it and what kind of effect does it have on the sub like most common complaints about it.


In my opinon, things like forced cross dressing, forced bi and forced orgasms really aren't forced. You have to want it to happen in order for it to happen. So, your girl is going to have to be open to having multiple orgasms.

One of the things that has helped me learn to be multi is to learn about chakras, in particular the second, and work to move the energy there during sex.

Master Fire




PONYSEEKER -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 12:03:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RedSavageSlave

My only complaint is that once being trained into forced orgasms..it becomes difficult to achieve "normal flow" orgasms.


Thanks for making that point... very good thing to know.




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 12:15:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER
Will do Suzanne and thank you much for your reply.
Although I am curioise about the 20 orgasms... thats an incredibly high number to reach.  I can never get more than 5-6
out of my sub...LOL


It depends on the KIND of orgasms you're going for. I have six major kinds. One is from clitorial stimulation only, one is from g-spot only, one is from nipple stimulation only, one is from energy only, one is from biting only (in a specific place) and, the most intense, is a combination of at least g-spot and clitoral. For me, I can usually only manage one huge intense one, SOMEtimes two, but leading up to that, I've lost count of how many of the other kinds I've had (I think the high count is 18) and after that, I have "aftershock" energy orgasms that can count into the teens. I've been told it's pretty interesting to watch. LOL I've also creeped some partners out with it, because it can be a spiritual thing for me due to the energy manipulation. *shrug*

If you're going for only the intense orgasms, she'll physically probably never be able to manage like 20 or something simply due to dehydration, drops in sugar, surges of hormones, etc. But, if you're willing to learn about other kinds with her, AND she's open to being able to feel other kinds, then you have more of a chance to hit high counts.

Mostly, for me, has been simply allowing, and sometimes willing, my body to be that sensitive. Also part of it is having a partner who can move his own energy into his hands as he works with me. *le sigh* Go check out chakras and how to concentrate on one part of the body over another to move energy there.

Master Fire




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 12:22:24 PM)

The only way I've had forced orgasms is with a hitachi.  It's rare and not entirely enjoyable for me actually.

When it comes to females, the only rule about orgasms is that there is no rule.




PONYSEEKER -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 12:38:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

quote:

ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER
Will do Suzanne and thank you much for your reply.
Although I am curioise about the 20 orgasms... thats an incredibly high number to reach.  I can never get more than 5-6
out of my sub...LOL


It depends on the KIND of orgasms you're going for. I have six major kinds. One is from clitorial stimulation only, one is from g-spot only, one is from nipple stimulation only, one is from energy only, one is from biting only (in a specific place) and, the most intense, is a combination of at least g-spot and clitoral. For me, I can usually only manage one huge intense one, SOMEtimes two, but leading up to that, I've lost count of how many of the other kinds I've had (I think the high count is 18) and after that, I have "aftershock" energy orgasms that can count into the teens. I've been told it's pretty interesting to watch. LOL I've also creeped some partners out with it, because it can be a spiritual thing for me due to the energy manipulation. *shrug*

If you're going for only the intense orgasms, she'll physically probably never be able to manage like 20 or something simply due to dehydration, drops in sugar, surges of hormones, etc. But, if you're willing to learn about other kinds with her, AND she's open to being able to feel other kinds, then you have more of a chance to hit high counts.

Mostly, for me, has been simply allowing, and sometimes willing, my body to be that sensitive. Also part of it is having a partner who can move his own energy into his hands as he works with me. *le sigh* Go check out chakras and how to concentrate on one part of the body over another to move energy there.

Master Fire




I'm actually going for the more intense ones.  I guess the only way I can explain it is that when I have an orgasm it gets super sensitive allmost to the point where I cant stand it then I have aftershocks that usually freak people out then I go back into an intense orgasm.  I am a guy so its really weird or rare.  I guess I am looking for a way to force multiple orgasms because she does not go into the after shock stage.  For me personaly orgasms and sex in general is deeply spiritual so maybe that is why I have so many and normaly do have multiple orgasms and as a guy that is able to do this I have known many woman that are able to do it but for some reason my sub has this one orgasm where she is compleatly out of it and then has to stop which really drives me nutts.  I really hate it to the point where it is allmost costing the relationship because she just has no endurance.  I can litteraly walk up to her and get her off in like two minutes.  She does have multiple orgasms that are very common but that is when she has like 5-6 smaller orgasms that goes into a large one.  Now allso remember that I am saying this on what she has explained to me which of course can allways be a tottal lie....LOL




CreativeDominant -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 1:55:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER

I would like more info on forced orgasms more specifically what different methods can be used / for how long to do it and what kind of effect does it have on the sub like most common complaints about it.


I think that the types of complaints you would get, if the submissive has any, would vary from individual to individual. 

Multiple orgasms may be what is needed for your partner to achieve a higher intensity of her orgasm.  Forced orgasm may be another route.  Forced multiple orgasms may be the third route.  Or you might achieve the same thing by teaching her to appreciate and open up the connection between the physical aspects of the orgasm and the emotional/intellectual components of it...deepen the ties between all aspects of it.  For her, it may not necessarily be a lack of number of orgasms or a lack of force but rather a "disconnect" between all the facets.  Perhaps it is caused by concentration being allowed to drift elsewhere or by lack of experience or by a shyness about indulging in hedonistic pleasure for its own sake.




bbwdommelilith -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 1:55:04 PM)

What is a hitachi?




MasterFireMaam -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 1:56:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER
I'm actually going for the more intense ones.  I guess the only way I can explain it is that when I have an orgasm it gets super sensitive allmost to the point where I cant stand it then I have aftershocks that usually freak people out then I go back into an intense orgasm.  I am a guy so its really weird or rare.  I guess I am looking for a way to force multiple orgasms because she does not go into the after shock stage.  For me personaly orgasms and sex in general is deeply spiritual so maybe that is why I have so many and normaly do have multiple orgasms and as a guy that is able to do this I have known many woman that are able to do it but for some reason my sub has this one orgasm where she is compleatly out of it and then has to stop which really drives me nutts.  I really hate it to the point where it is allmost costing the relationship because she just has no endurance.  I can litteraly walk up to her and get her off in like two minutes.  She does have multiple orgasms that are very common but that is when she has like 5-6 smaller orgasms that goes into a large one.  Now allso remember that I am saying this on what she has explained to me which of course can allways be a tottal lie....LOL


Comments on physical stuff: Why are you expecting her to be able to do what you do? She's not you. She simply may not be able to have multiple, intense orgasms.

Comments on relationship stuff: What are you willing to trade in order to maintain the relationship? If you're placing the future of the relationship upon the condition that she change, you're doing yourself a disservice. Change is hard and therefore unlikely. Plus, having that demans placed on you can be crushing to the psyche. Ever heard of performance anxiety?

Master Fire




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 2:01:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bbwdommelilith
What is a hitachi?

A fairly powerful and popular plug-in vibrator.

http://www.hitachi-magic-wand.com/




PONYSEEKER -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 2:10:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam


Comments on physical stuff: Why are you expecting her to be able to do what you do? She's not you. She simply may not be able to have multiple, intense orgasms.

Comments on relationship stuff: What are you willing to trade in order to maintain the relationship? If you're placing the future of the relationship upon the condition that she change, you're doing yourself a disservice. Change is hard and therefore unlikely. Plus, having that demans placed on you can be crushing to the psyche. Ever heard of performance anxiety?

Master Fire



You are totally correct on every point by my problem is really basic.  I have the reverse problems of what you would expect.   Most woman cant last long enough... its kind of like when woman complain that a guy gets off in like 3-5 minutes and then hes done and the woman is left just saying well that was fun.  For me its the same thing... woman usually cant last any where near long enough to satisfy me.  Its a problem that most guys cant relate to unfortunatly.  She does have multiple orgasms at times and I dont think that she would ever be able to have the same type of orgasms I do I just hate that she finishes off so soon.  She tries to hold them off but not nearly enough and sometimes of course when she does hold them off it compleatly blocks it so she cant have one.  So I guess what I am focusing on is the oversensitivity that happens after the orgasm.  I have trained myself to overcome that but I am a guy... somehow I have to train her to overcome it otherwise I will continue to be unsatisfied and I dont believe in multiple partners.  I know all this sounds weird comming from a guy but its just the way I am....lol




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 2:27:31 PM)

HOW exactly does she get oversensitive? 




GrizzlyBear -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 2:30:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PONYSEEKER

You are totally correct on every point by my problem is really basic.  I have the reverse problems of what you would expect.   Most woman cant last long enough... its kind of like when woman complain that a guy gets off in like 3-5 minutes and then hes done and the woman is left just saying well that was fun.  ... So I guess what I am focusing on is the oversensitivity that happens after the orgasm.  ...


If the problem is that she cums well before you do, and she is then too sensitive to continue with vaginal sex, then perhaps you should start - or finish - in another hole.  Another issue may be lack of lube.  Many women seem to dry up after orgasm, and continued vigorous thrusting will get them very sore.  Solution - stop and apply lube.

This is not her problem, it is your problem.  You need to find a way to deal with it, instead of wanting to change her responses.  Or, find a sub that doesn't react this way.  There are plenty of Doms that would be fine with her responses and be glad to take her off your hands.




Venusflames -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 2:36:53 PM)

I'm not sure I understand the problem.  Unlike men women arn't dependent on their orgasm as reason to stop playing.  The whole point is that we can continue and have orgasms in many different ways from different angles.  We certainly don't have to sit out for 15 minutes while our apparatus come back to life.  Perhaps less emphasis on penetration is needed and more emphasis on oral pleasure would be better?  Or vary your point of climax, as was suggested before, there are several ways to induce such pleasure if done with skill.

I'm not saying you don't do this as i'm not privvy to your methods, but it comes across as penetration is the key? Tell me if i'm totally wrong lol.

ps  Don't forget the glass of water to combat the inevitable dehydration!




PhillyActorBoy -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/4/2007 2:39:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

The only way I've had forced orgasms is with a hitachi.  It's rare and not entirely enjoyable for me actually.

When it comes to females, the only rule about orgasms is that there is no rule.


I have to agree. While it would be possible to force a male's orgasm, some women are incapable of orgasming in certain ways. At least, that's what I've learned from listening to Dr. Drew for years...feel free to take it with a grain of salt.




colinuk -> RE: Forced Orgasms (1/5/2007 6:54:14 AM)

it add to the pleasure then when you cum it is long and very pleasurbale




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