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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 1:04:02 PM   
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Third degree burns are hopefully not what happens when a person goes to a pro.
As a former EMT I have delt with third degree burns that are very painful because they damage muscle tissue and kill the nerves. Second degree burns damage the layers of skin and nerve endings, "not the muscle"

Third degree burns don't affect anything beneath the subcutaneous layer, and muscle is below that layer.  That kind of damage requires a fourth degree (or greater) burn, as your own wikipedia link describes:

"Burns that injure the tissues underlying the skin, such as the muscles or bones, are sometimes categorized as fourth-degree burns."

A second degree burn produces superficial blistering and does not cause destruction and charring of tissue as a third degree burn does.  Because there is no tissue destruction with a second degree burn, the brand produced would likely heal into invisibility.  Pros who brand for a living know this.

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Oh and I almost forgot I have branded cows and the rancher said be careful not to give the COW a third degree burn.Nuf said

Cows are not humans.  The goal with a livestock brand is to damage the hide only to the follicular level to prevent future hair growth where the brand strikes.  You're not trying to create a permanent raised scar as you are when branding a hairless ape.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 7:59:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		raven (female half of Phoenix2raven) says: in response to the OP ... it's gonna be OWIE!! *lol* but seriously, it's something you have to research and think about just as carefully as any other body modification.

from watching a friend's branding healing over the space of 3 months, and seeing the brand/scar a year later, frankly it looked (and felt) uneven and one could say it was comprised of both 2nd and 3rd degree burnt areas. so many variables, so many factors, i guess?

if i ever get branded, i've researched enough about it to know i 1) want a pro, or my Dom to be trained by a pro, and 2) i want a cauterizing pen brand. those seem to be the ones that heal the most evenly.

but it's still gonna be OWIE! ;)

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 8:02:30 PM   
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my Master is considering to eventualy brand me. Have anyone here done that, do anyone know how mutch it hurts and how long it takes to heal? Also what are the majsor risks of such a body decoration?


For me, the actual brand didn't hurt all that much, it was mainly the expectation of pain.  What hurt like a bastard were the nerves and skin growing back.  For me the total healing (where we felt comfortable actually showing people and potentially having them touch the brand) was about 4-5 months, but we intentionally did a somewhat deeper brands than the flash touch brands we'd seen done.

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One more question, i have wery light colord skin, the few scars i have hardly show becouse i am so pale, will a brand even show on my skin once it is healed?


I would suggest you look at how previous burns on your skin (or if you've never had an accidental burn, then wounds) heal on your skin and how they scar on your skin.  That will give you a good indication of how the end product of the brand will look (in general).

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 8:19:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know how one would actually go about branding someone with this - heating to the proper temperature and such. But they are so cute. I think having custom made iron of Master's mark would be much better than several strikes with a straight line to form a design. I am sure it would be better to have it done professionally, but I would not be comfortable in having an outside party involved in such an intimate act.
http://www.sloanbrands.com/index.htm

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 8:48:57 PM   
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I don't know how one would actually go about branding someone with this - heating to the proper temperature and such. But they are so cute. I think having custom made iron of Master's mark would be much better than several strikes with a straight line to form a design. I am sure it would be better to have it done professionally, but I would not be comfortable in having an outside party involved in such an intimate act.
http://www.sloanbrands.com/index.htm


For multiple reasons I wouldn't suggest using those irons, based on the pictures I saw on their website.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 8:58:11 PM   
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I don't know how one would actually go about branding someone with this - heating to the proper temperature and such. But they are so cute. I think having custom made iron of Master's mark would be much better than several strikes with a straight line to form a design. I am sure it would be better to have it done professionally, but I would not be comfortable in having an outside party involved in such an intimate act.
http://www.sloanbrands.com/index.htm

Using those novelty brands on flesh would likely produce an unreadable blob of scar tissue.  Those are meant to be hung on the wall of your den, not used to brand anything living.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 10:39:19 PM   
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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/1/2007 11:59:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Metal used for strike branding is thin, generally no thicker than 1/16th of an inch.  The novelty brands are constructed of metal that's considerably thicker than that.  Brands will spread as they heal, doubling or tripling the width of the scar when compared to the initial burn.  Unless you plan for that spreading when designing the iron, there's a good chance that when the brand heals, it's not going to look like you imagined it.  Since those irons were never designed to be used on humans, that spreading was never taken into account in their design.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/2/2007 1:14:08 AM   
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i believe this to be true someone said it was so painful i think it would be safe to say pull you lip over you head and then get hit but a truck it is like having a baby hard as hell it hurt so much

mons

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/5/2007 6:11:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you all for your reply, it is most kind of all of you to take the time to answer me, before we deside to do this or not  me and my Master will do alot of reserch and try to find out as mutch as possible, thank you for the information you all have given. It seam to be the experience of pain wary from person to person whit brands, witch is also what somone on a video aboute body modification said to, that if one is lucky the nerves get knoked out at once and it hardly hurt, but if one is unlucky and the nerves is still up and running, it hurts like hell.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/5/2007 6:39:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was branded with a cauterizing pen and it was fairly low on the pain scale, mostly because it is so quick.  I would describe it as a similar feel to being cut, but more burny.  It hurt very little immediately after or the next day, though it did get sore and and achy for a day or two after that.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/5/2007 10:29:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was branded last April and I am very fair skinned.  My brand was more of a sear than anything.  Most of the people I know who are branded weren't branded like a beast of burden.  *rolls eyes*  Some people may have been, but not any I know personally.  My brand has gotten lighter as time has passed by and Daddy will be branding me again soon.  It didn't hurt much at all (shockingly) when He branded me, and it didn't really hurt much afterwards.  It was the itching as it healed that made me uncomfy.  It was a little tender for a week or two after I got it done, but nothing dreadful, and certainly nothing like having a baby or dental work done.  It was much easier than that.  (What WILL get your attention is the water hitting freshly branded skin if you forget during the first shower after getting your brand!)  *sucks in breath sharply*      *dayum*

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/6/2007 5:01:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks both of you for the information, you are most helpful. Thanks.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/6/2007 8:00:54 AM   
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my Master is considering to eventualy brand me. Have anyone here done that, do anyone know how mutch it hurts and how long it takes to heal? Also what are the majsor risks of such a body decoration?


Branding if done wrong can be a life sentence to pain and/or disability.  If done right it can be a life sentence to a mark that brings a deep sense of meaning and enjoyment.  The risks are dependent on the skill and knowledge of the people doing the branding coupled with the type of branding done.  This needs to be very careful considered....

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/10/2007 2:47:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for all your help and information, i realy apriciate it.

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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/10/2007 11:48:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		    Thank you for the info on those mini branding irons. Like I said, I know nothing of the technique, I just liked the look of them. I figured there had to be a reason why the multi strike brand is commonly used. Does anyone have more info on the cauterizing pen?
Thanks,
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RE: How mutch to branding hurt? - 1/11/2007 8:50:51 AM   
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my Master is considering to eventualy brand me. Have anyone here done that, do anyone know how mutch it hurts and how long it takes to heal? Also what are the majsor risks of such a body decoration?

i was branded using a violet wand.  It is a deep and permanent brand but it did not hurt anymore than a tattoo and it healed in the same amount of time.

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