Donnalee
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Stephann says....Pathological desires would naturally come from similar types of experiences - though for a pathology to exist, specific events or physiological imbalances in the brain (or most likely a combination of the two) lead to pathological behavior. Sociopaths, for example, aren't usually seen as simply being 'born' - it's the result of specific learned behaviors, either emulation of authority figures, or successfully defeating authority figures. Lack of empathy and objectification of others, for example, would be a typical sign of a sociopath.
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There is actually some interesting new research on this in the past few years using FMRI imaging, and some other types of brain peeking thats done while the subject is thinking, looking at, or talking about different things. Whether the differences in some sociopath's brains are a function of repeated training or were there from the start isn't known. But in some cases, there are very clear deviations in the brain that are common among those with sociopathic tics. I wonder how that research will be used and what new discoveries lie in wait as technology gives us new ways to see things.
When I hear discussions like these, I think it's good to remember that the same word used in a legal, psychiatric, religious and kink discussions mean different things, and they don't cross boundaries very well. Like the word insane. It's a legal term, not a medical one, but used commonly in the general public. You can be declared insane by a judge, but not diagnosed that by your doctor.
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Spend a couple hours poking around crime sites (staring here isn't as good a place as any.) Read a couple papers on criminal behavior from the net. Try to picture the forces and motivations that drive men (almost exclusively men) to such bizzare acts. It's not light reading, certainly not for the squeamish. But in coming to terms with the reality, that these people have no more in common with the a BDSM 'sadist' than you do with a two headed albino. A combination of physiological differences and psychological damage is what causes the problems. They stop being 'sick fucks' and start becoming sick men. Violently, morbidly, terrifyingly dangerous, sick men, but sick men none the less. Understanding that, will show you exactly why you are not that person.
I think this is the best advice to anyone wondering how sick their sadistic bents are. I've worked in prisons, including 6 months in a Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity unit (NGRI), and believe you me, those folks are humans just like me and then it goes horribly wrong. Many of them did horrible and sadistic things, got stabilized on medication and then are ready to return to the population within a few years.
It was the folks in the regular prison (the sociopaths) that seemed less human more often. There is a coldness there that is palpable, no matter how charming or rational they want to sound. I never saw any of them really ponder their victim. They certainly weren't voicing their concerns within their community for feedback. There is a real disconnect there.
A sexual sadist who is enjoying the pain of their partner and enjoying inflicting it is connected. It's a HUGE difference. There is a before, during and after. Thats not so much the case with the 'sick fuck'. Although I don't subscribe to the addage that "If you're wondering if you're insane, you probably aren't." I do think it's probably a better rule of thumb that if you're concerned about your status on the sexual sadist/ sick fuck continuem, you're probably closer to the former.
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< Message edited by Donnalee -- 12/30/2006 5:34:41 PM >
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).....before you got into 'the lifestyle', did you have sadistic urges? (And this is not about nature/nurture). i mean, say, when you were younger, did you have such feelings that may have urged you to torture animals...or inflict pain on another who was not consenting? 
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