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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 1:47:58 AM   
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It's been a couple of weeks, Juliaoceana, how's the diet going?

Low carb is the only diet, combined w exercise, that ever worked for Me.

It took me about 30 days to completely acclimate to removing the 'poison' *simple starches* from My menu, but after about a month My energy level soared.

Good luck, stick with it!

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 3:19:37 AM   
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Good going, julia, LA, TxMaam, and everyone else.  The more I study, the more I become convinced how vaulable eating low carb is. I'm reading Dr Richard Bernstein's Diabetes Diet and Diabetes Solution, and getting a lot of solid info from them; it is my fondest hope to not only avoid insulin shots, but to get off the pills within the year, as well. I fully intend on this happening.

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 3:25:34 AM   
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julia,

Not gonna preach at all.  But when you're "finished" with South Beach and what I mean is when you start to add carbs back, take a look at Fitness for Life for Women, by Peeke.  I'm on that 12 week challenge now.  It seems to be working and there's no huge modifications. To me, it's like Weight Watchers...less calories in...more calories out = losing weight.  Add an exercise routine and viola!

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 5:36:14 AM   
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I am unbelievably impressed with how fast it has went, and should be back in my loose size 10s in 2 more weeks or so.


Wow.  I've never considered a low carb or no carb diet.  I wonder if it's something I should think about.  I would like to lose 15-20lbs (that would put me back in size 10).  I love starches though, I run to mamma - potatoes & pasta for comfort.


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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 5:42:05 AM   
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Wow.  I've never considered a low carb or no carb diet.  I wonder if it's something I should think about.  I would like to lose 15-20lbs (that would put me back in size 10).  I love starches though, I run to mamma - potatoes & pasta for comfort.

A)  They make whole wheat pastas now!

B)  After the first two weeks of carb addiction breakdown, ANYTHING is "allowed." (sort of)

Part of why I love SBD and used it before was that it's not an "elimination" diet, but a moderation diet.  You can have a candy bar, as long as you understand what that's going to do to your system and willing to make the work to keep your body on keel. 

The first two weeks are designed to break the addiction so that you don't crave the bad stuff so much emotionally or physically, but you're not a bad person or are completely ruining your diet program if you decide to have a processed or "bad card" item- you just have to understand what it means within the whole. 

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 5:54:57 AM   
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I lost 45 lbs on Atkins and exercise a couple of years ago.  None of those packaged products with sugar alcohols and junk like that.  I ate healthy, whole foods.  Simply followed the diet as he wrote it and exercised faithfully - felt amazing with energy to spare.  I hate the scaremongers who throw out misinformation about anything, including this diet. 

When my doctor did my bloodwork, he said I was the only person he had been able to call that week and give them good news about their cholesterol levels.  He said mine were amazing.

I gained 15 back after an emotionally trying breakup with my boyfriend last year, and have started back exercising and plan to go back on Atkins as soon as I get paid.  Eating real food is expensive!

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 8:03:04 AM   
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julia,

Not gonna preach at all.  But when you're "finished" with South Beach and what I mean is when you start to add carbs back, take a look at Fitness for Life for Women, by Peeke.  I'm on that 12 week challenge now.  It seems to be working and there's no huge modifications. To me, it's like Weight Watchers...less calories in...more calories out = losing weight.  Add an exercise routine and viola!


Supposedly you never finish with South Beach. It is a lifelong way to keep your blood chemistry right. I have lost amazing amounts of weight counting calories in the past (55 pounds). I was hungry and craving carbs all the time. I am thinking about incorporating calorie counting with South Beach principals because I no longer crave sweets.


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I lost 45 lbs on Atkins and exercise a couple of years ago.  None of those packaged products with sugar alcohols and junk like that.  I ate healthy, whole foods.  Simply followed the diet as he wrote it and exercised faithfully - felt amazing with energy to spare.  I hate the scaremongers who throw out misinformation about anything, including this diet. 


I think it is great you did so well on Atkins. From my knowledge of it one does not even eat veggies at first. I do not want to do that to myself personally, it would not be a very successful thing for me. I was having blood sugar highs and lows, SB has completely stopped that for me, and I never have to be hungry to do it.

What ever works for people is what they should do  though!



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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 11:42:57 AM   
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Julia there are a lot of misconceptions about Atkins.  Induction phase, which typically lasts a week (although you can stay on it longer for quicker weight loss) consists of 20 grams of net carbs per day.  Those 20 grams are supposed to be green salads/green veggies, (I ate a lot of romaine lettuce, brussel srpouts and brocolli), but people will cheat and eat whatever they want as long as it fits within the 20 net grams a day.  When they start cheating and bending the rules, they are no longer doing Atkins, they're doing their version of some sort of low carb diet.

You then slowly add back in 5 grams of net carbs each week, adding in more veggies, then berries and so forth.  The foods are added back in based on their glycemic index - how they affect your blood sugar.

You keep adding the carbs back, taking note of any foods that cause you problems (cravings, etc.).  You're learning about your body's response to foods.  Once you get to a point in adding back carbs that you stop losing, then you know you've reached your body's maximum carb intake that it can handle and still keep losing.  BTW, the more you exercise, the more carbs you can eat. 

Ultimately you learn the maximum amount of carbs you can eat and still lose, and the maximum amount you can eat to maintain.... and you learn very important information on how foods affect your body overall.

Yea, he caved to the pressures of his nutritional institute to create low carb fast/junk foods to feed the hoards that simply will not give up crap food, but ultimately his diet has been proven effective time and time again by all sorts of studies, including those meant to debunk it.

Someone else posted it's not about eating loads of bacon and butter, although you can eat those things.  He just recommends that you focus on healthy fats and limit your intake of the others.

I tell ya, my body and mind felt so good.  I was NEVER hungry, my skin, hair and nails looked phenomenal.  It worked wonders for me and I'm getting back on it!

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 4:42:33 PM   
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I lost 45 lbs on Atkins and exercise a couple of years ago.  None of those packaged products with sugar alcohols and junk like that.  I ate healthy, whole foods.  Simply followed the diet as he wrote it and exercised faithfully - felt amazing with energy to spare.  I hate the scaremongers who throw out misinformation about anything, including this diet. 

When my doctor did my bloodwork, he said I was the only person he had been able to call that week and give them good news about their cholesterol levels.  He said mine were amazing.

I gained 15 back after an emotionally trying breakup with my boyfriend last year, and have started back exercising and plan to go back on Atkins as soon as I get paid.  Eating real food is expensive!



Good for you, angel.
 
You hear alot of criticism of the Atkins-type diets, that all the meat etc will clog your arteries, and I just don't believe it's true. The doctor whose books I'm reading (Dr Richard Bernstein) has followed a high-protein, low carb diet for over 3 decades and his LDL (bad cholestrol) is only 63, his HDL (good cholestrol) is 116. I don't remember what mine were, but I'll get the numbers, and post them here with the newer ones in a couple of months when I get them.
 
Also, Bernstein states that when he does see cholestrol problems with the high protein diet, it invariably turns out to be a low-thyroid issue, and when corrected, the cholestrol numbers go back to where they should.

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 7:56:47 PM   
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It's been a couple of weeks, Juliaoceana, how's the diet going?

Low carb is the only diet, combined w exercise, that ever worked for Me.

It took me about 30 days to completely acclimate to removing the 'poison' *simple starches* from My menu, but after about a month My energy level soared.

Good luck, stick with it!

TexasMaam


My energy level has gotten much better, in fact I got through the "down" part, and my energy is pretty stable now

Thanks for asking!

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RE: Started South Beach... Ugh! - 1/16/2007 8:02:22 PM   
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Lets put it this way

I will never eat transfats again knowingly

I will severly limit my fast food to in an extreme emergency where I have little choice

I will reduce sweets to once a month or so

I will rarely eat white flour products

I will avoid processed foods for the most part.

It is not so much the diet in my mind, it is the crap food that passes for real in the grocery store. I think that we all know eating real unprocessed food is the only way to remain healthy, and keeping junk at a rare treat.

Be it Atkins that gives that info, or some other variation, its all good.

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