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Arpig -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/19/2006 3:12:29 PM)

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There is so little to talk about.
A Dom says to me, "I sure enjoy whipping my sub". To which I reply, "Me too". Next topic.

 
Exactly!!!!!
And as to why I answered rudely....why because I am rude, of course.




MaryT -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/19/2006 3:30:16 PM)

I don't see the problem with it.  There is at least one monthly dom meeting in Denver so apparently there is some demand for it.  From what I've seen here and other places, it might be good for new dom to have such a forum available to them, and it might be good for more experienced doms to do some peer mentoring.  




Grlwithboy -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/19/2006 3:47:42 PM)

That made me chuckle - a lot of that is true.
I don't like being in a situation where everyone's taking a piss on the tree as it were and if I don't, you know, my status is immediately going to come into question. This happens in the FemDom social circles I've been in too, and honestly I don't have much taste for it. I'm fairly experienced and I play fairly hard, but I'm NOT a complete gearhead and it's not a contest to me.

I've always socialized best with switches and femsubs - I don't feel the need to control anyone but the people I have relationships and scenes with, and I feel remarkably relaxed in a situation where I can comfortably deal with no pressure to prove anything.

I do think there's more to say to one another though, and I've found that MDoms will often open up to me a lot, as I'm clearly not threatened by them, nor am I interested in them in any relationship sense - maybe they see in me a confidential resource or something - but there's a lot to talk about. Like when your sub flashed back and freaked out and how it left you gunshy and emotional for weeks after. Or when you've fucked something up and you know you have - everyone else has probably fucked the same thing up too. 

I do think Masters could benefit from more mentorship and note-comparing if able to leave some of the dick-swinging behaind.





AquaticSub -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/19/2006 4:02:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Grlwithboy

I do think Masters could benefit from more mentorship and note-comparing if able to leave some of the dick-swinging behaind.



It would be nice if they could. I don't understand why male dominants are so adverse to just learning from each other. And then, once the "culture" of anti-friend and non-mentoring has been established, doms claims subs aren't subbly if they "trained" their dominant. Because all dominants are more experienced then their subs.




padparacha -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/19/2006 4:06:27 PM)

Very early this morning I found myself in a similar situation.
The difference was someone mailed me several times off the boards..and was very different then from how he was being on the boards.
Even that he had the audacity to not face me in public..
Instead of blocking him ,I kept reading what he was saying privatly to me.
Now it doesnt matter if really ..because the guy is not going to change.
There were enough people enabling this guy.
Or..I guess some would say..there were enough people respecting his right to be how ever judgemental he wanted to be.
And that's ok..but I wasnt given the same courtesy.
Why?
Because I am a Dom.
And guess what..like it or not..people want to see us as all being "alone and strong"
blah blah blah...
You need to be a real person,faults and all before you can be a Dom..or a real sub for that matter.
Meeting others of like persuassion is a wonderous thing.
I belong to a local group and I find the commradery helpful.
Especially since I enjoy bottoming with a strong enough Dominant.
I am sorry that you got jumped on..hugs.
But put it in perspective.
And I think you are very attractive by the way.




DeepWaters -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/20/2006 6:37:58 AM)

To the OP --Ive run into another Dom who wanted my advice/mentoring but begged me not to use him like a woman--my reaction was the same as yours (WTF!!)  Apparently the old school way for a Dom to gain experience, was to start as a submssive...and be fresh meat.  If you visit an older training chateau their master in training program is usually set up the same way.

A much better option is probably for your inexperienced Dom to attend a munch, find the most knowledgable Masters around for the things he wants to learn and ask for personal instruction...I know of at least one Pro-Domme as well that will teach.

As for male Dom's socializing (scratches head) if we aren't building something or learning how to improve our toy techniques...whats the point?

but if you're a sub looking for the Domly watering hole hoping to hit the jack pot...check out any board that has to do with Psy Ops




domiguy -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/20/2006 3:03:52 PM)

Find the idea of socializing with people based on this aspect alone to be rather....err....creepy.  At what point did this thing become so important to you that you thought you should form a club?  I am not  a prude I just think this is something a little more personal...I just don't see the benefits.  What could possibly be learned or what is the upside?  I personally don't understand the needing for  training..I personally think many of the people  out here are whacked beyond belief!  If you need someone to show you how to be dominant then let me tell you something.....YOU ARE NOT DOMINANT!!!!!!! You are an imposter at best and a clone at worst.  It's the equivalent to go to class to learn to be gay.  Does anybody agree?...does anybody posses the ability to act,think,and create on their own without having to incorporate others in to their own private affairs. This isn't exactly learning how to fly a jet.....PATHETIC!!!Have you all lost the ability to socialize without this being the main topic of conversation?  You need a hobby.

I truly would be a huamanitarian if it weren't for all the people.

Creep on creeps.

out.

D.G.

p.s. Jesus please protect me from your followers.




LadyHugs -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/20/2006 3:41:07 PM)

Dear notjustsomesub, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eyes, I 'caught' the spirit of the other thread, to which was to some an invitation to be taking off on another flight entirely, per se.
 
That said--In my mind's eyes I see, there are as many types and style dominant men out there, to which often find some sort of conflict and needing to posture like a bunch of roosters with an egg stuck up their plumage.  It isn't restricted to dominant men--some dominant females are about as kind as an impacted wisdom tooth.
 
Some individuals will be civil and gracious, will be as helpful as possible.  Some need to bedazzle some new dominant on the block, doing fancy foot work and impress as much as possible.  Some will hold their knowledge and skills close to the vest.  There will be rude and crude sorts as well.  But, in summary--what may start out as a perfect idea, such as a dominants only group; just turns into a gripe session and or some bragging session which digs the ones without someone, like somebody grinding a cigarette butt into their state of being alone.  Also, not all can take constructive criticisms from the 'peanut' gallery in dealing with things private.  Some who give criticisms cannot even conduct their own life, let alone someone else's.  So, it isn't a pleasant group after a while.  When you have women in the dominant group with men, the men--save for a few, will just plain be rude and crude; always wanting to turn Female Dominants into slaves/submissives--giving the old worn out excuse for their behavior; that we women who are dominants just haven't found the right man --them.  Of course when a Female Dominant teases them right back that they haven't submitted to the right woman; they grab their balls..err marbles and take off in a huff.
 
It will always be a difficult task indeed, to create a group for Dominants only, as not everybody is willing to give up their recipe for success, especially when some Dominants think this is all a game and some are seriously seeking--as, to give them the upper hand per se.
Another aspect, is that Dominants who are sure of themselves will not mind asking questions but, some don't ask because they do not wish to appear 'dumb.' -- In my mind's eyes though, the only thing dumb is; not taking advantage of the resources available to improve one's self; as it will improve the relationship present and or future.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 




MaryT -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/20/2006 4:35:45 PM)

Alright then, if it's not another dom who teaches a new dom how to use a single tail, how do they learn?
Not by trial and error, one would hope.




LadyHugs -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/20/2006 6:31:52 PM)

Dear MaryT, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Unfortunately, the truth be told--a good many Dominant men I met, did indeed self teach themselves.  Of course they made mince-meat out of the backs of the submissives/slaves that bottom to them and they laughed it off as being a form of 'sadism' when in reality--it was a sack of bull pies--they didn't know the whip, the throws and the damage those little knots in the cracker/popper would do and or putting too much leather onto the victim's skin.
 
These individuals have since improved and can whip with accuracy however, a lot were just self taught in a lot of skills and with practice and copy-cat from a distance got better.  Few would chat with each other to get 'pointers' on how to throw a whip. 
 
I was blessed with prior experiences with the 'snake' and 'signal' whips in my equestrian days when I participated in rodeos.  Trick "cracking" and target "cracking" is just one of many things I did just because it was fun and a challenge; as well as I drove horses and worked cattle.
It easily transferred to S&M for me.  But, I had the fortune of being with professional Trick riders and crackers, professional rodeo folks when they would stay over for their rodeo appearance.  I also rode to the fox hunt, to which the whip in that area of riding has a rather long braided belly, that has a long shaft to which its attached--nearly identical to an Australian Cattle and or herding whip.  The whip had to do several tasks so it was very functional.
 
I did mentor a few individuals in the throwing of single tails.  Some have since grown and give presentations themselves.  Single and double throws, East and West coast styles and Florentine. 
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs
 




Grlwithboy -> RE: Dom phobia?? (12/20/2006 10:33:11 PM)

Actually I have found that the gravest and most common cause of injuries in SM is from the simple and humble act which most of us participate in at some point - bondage. I think a lot of people over-reach, get excited and stop thinking, or don't realize how serious the safety issues are. I don't know anyone who's inflicted injury with a singletail or anyone who's been injured in this manner, but I'm not arguing against the fact that this kind of carelessness exists - it's more common that I find a small amount of negligence injures someone in bondage or self-bondage than I find the *gross* negligence required to fail to realize that singeltails aren't just a pick it up and swing it around kind of toy.

Because it's easier to screw up than we'd like, I've actually found a lot more mentorship, exchange of ideas, and lack of overrun ego in the rope top communities, and a really awesome willingness to exchange info and technique. This is where I've met MDoms with whom I can have very civil and very candid conversations, which is kind of nice.




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