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Hercuckslave -> Movie - The Pet (12/2/2006 4:51:28 PM)

went to a screening of The Pet today.  There were a bunch of my friends from the community there as well. 
the general consensus among us was the same....

yet another mainstream movie portraying D/s folks as evil, sick, twisted, sociapathic freaks.  this time its even better....we are lumped right in together with human trafficers and organ harvesters.

M's m




Rover -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/2/2006 6:59:33 PM)

Wanna buy a kidney?  Low mileage, one owner.
 
John




Dman2001 -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/3/2006 10:27:17 AM)

The Pet is an amazing movie. It shows the relationship from two people from different walks of life who come together to form a loving alternative lifestyle.

If anything in The Pet it showed a symbiotic relationship of two freethinking individuals maybe exploited by a society that fosters greed and power and places monetary worth many times above human value. It showed a character that had to grow from being an amoral businessperson to a caring individual who began to understand the consequences of a lassies faire capitalist environment.

In The Pet I did see a mainstream film that DID NOT “portray D/s folks evil, sick or twisted “ –that in my opinion has to be in the eye of an individual moviegoer because it certainly was not in the movie.




MzrezDragonear -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/3/2006 3:42:00 PM)

What impress me the most is that the wealth man do have a heart. Fought to make sure his pet remain in his poistion that he actually a loyal Master to her. That's poistive perspective and I hope it help people see little different spectrum of life and cultures with respect without passing any judgement. The concept of the movie is perfect one for setting up a forum to discuss whole feedback from the audience and see what they have learned from movie cuz there's lot of hints and questions that sort of give away in our sub-conscious to rethink our actions and why did he choose her or why did she decided to do it? It does send out a lot of questions which is very interesting to note for us to know. I'd take that movie to any senimar to discuss anytime. I enjoy debating with people. It usually helped people see a lot of perspective instead looking at the mirrior way too closely. THey ahve to walk few feets backwards to see it more clearly and see few things instead of one. Does that makes senses?

Ahh well enjoy your December month.
SMD




LTRsubNW -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/3/2006 4:08:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hercuckslave

went to a screening of The Pet today.  There were a bunch of my friends from the community there as well. 
the general consensus among us was the same....

yet another mainstream movie portraying D/s folks as evil, sick, twisted, sociapathic freaks.  this time its even better....we are lumped right in together with human trafficers and organ harvesters.

M's m


It doesn't sound intriguing.




Hercuckslave -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/3/2006 11:44:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dman2001


In The Pet I did see a mainstream film that DID NOT “portray D/s folks evil, sick or twisted “ –that in my opinion has to be in the eye of an individual moviegoer because it certainly was not in the movie.



actually, it was not in the eye of this individual movie goer, but in the movie itself.  don't remember the names of the characters, but the bald man who first took the asian pet girl....he interacts with her in a loving, D/s, Master/pet way (fairly representative of many consensual D/s relationships)...only to turn around and sell her off for her body parts later in the movie.  This is shown to be his regular pattern.  In mixing a consensual, seemingly compassionate D/s interaction with pure trafficing in human flesh, the film is indeed showing D/s folks as evil.  Lets take a look at this as if it were a REAL WORLD situation.  If the man was a trafficer in human flesh and taking these people merely to sell them for organ transplants, there would be NO LOVING D/S INTERACTION.  he would simply kidnap them, cage them, and keep them like that until he found a buyer for them.  By mixing the two i felt the movie was showing that as the end result of the power exchange.  Even the rich man who another poster pointed out was kind and caring to his pet...he was totally involved in the human trafficing and organ donor ring.....totally a part of it and totally profiting from it.  it just so happened that he found a special connection with this particular pet.  I don't find him to be an innocent character whatsoever.  He was part of the evil ring.   If the film maker wished to show consensual slavery as opposed to non consensual, it would have been better accomplished by showing two DIFFERENT sets of people in a parralel way.  One form of slavery to be consensual, loving, committed...the other to be non consensual, cruel, detached, and inhuman.

I did not expect this to be a D/s movie and tried to view it with impartial eyes.  The fact for me is that it is yet another main stream media piece that shows D/s people in an evil light. 

True it is just these particular D/s people...but think for a moment.....if 99% of the movies that had a jewish character showed him as a greedy, money grubbing, opportunistic bastard, there would also be serious talk about the media showing jews in an unfair and stereotypical light. 

that's how i felt about this piece.  "Look at what those kinky SM D/s folks REALLY do.




Lordandmaster -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 12:38:07 AM)

So it sounds like I should stick to sexandsubmission.com for my BDSM porn, right?




SirLordTrainer -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 4:52:54 AM)

Dontcha just love to critque films.. I look forward to seeing it. Hell, if nothin else I'll enjoy her crawlin around chained, collared an leashed! <g>




jshima17 -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 10:01:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hercuckslave

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dman2001


In The Pet I did see a mainstream film that DID NOT “portray D/s folks evil, sick or twisted “ –that in my opinion has to be in the eye of an individual moviegoer because it certainly was not in the movie.



Lets take a look at this as if it were a REAL WORLD situation.  If the man was a trafficer in human flesh and taking these people merely to sell them for organ transplants, there would be NO LOVING D/S INTERACTION.  he would simply kidnap them, cage them, and keep them like that until he found a buyer for them.  By mixing the two i felt the movie was showing that as the end result of the power exchange. 

Even the rich man who another poster pointed out was kind and caring to his pet...he was totally involved in the human trafficing and organ donor ring.....totally a part of it and totally profiting from it.  it just so happened that he found a special connection with this particular pet.  I don't find him to be an innocent character whatsoever.  He was part of the evil ring.   If the film maker wished to show consensual slavery as opposed to non consensual, it would have been better accomplished by showing two DIFFERENT sets of people in a parralel way.  One form of slavery to be consensual, loving, committed...the other to be non consensual, cruel, detached, and inhuman.




YOU BASICALLY SAID 2 THINGS IN YOUR CRITIQUE,...

Maybe if you had paid better attention during the movie you would have realized that it was in trafficker's best interest to be "nice" to his asian pet because when he showed her off at that Utah event in the snow...the better she looked to the clients the more money she would pull in & being cooperative goes hand-in-had w/ this, which she would obviously not be if she were simply caged/kidnapped/treated badly....so NO, i do not agree that his association w/ trafficking automatically places D/s folk in an evil light because it was clear to me that he was merely pretending to care for her in order to decieve her, not quite sure how you missed that...?

Yes, the rich man is not an innocent character but I don't feel they attempted to portray him that way. It was made clear that he meddled in/profited from human trafficking affairs. However, why must someone by "innocent" to be in a fulfilling D/s relationship. I think the fact that he is a bad guy who was able to find a connection w/ her makes for a lot more interesting/complex character interaction. Wouldn't you agree that it dulls the story to have the main character's be "random nice rich guy meets girl in need" vs. "humanized bad rich guy w/ a past meets girl in need"

[Mod Note:  flame removed]




gemy -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 11:05:02 AM)

oh no, you're kidding!  i ordered the movie, should have it today, and am having a group of friends over to watch it on friday

dam it





Hercuckslave -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 6:43:56 PM)

well, these were just my opinions.  watch it with your friends....i'd be very interested to hear your feedback.  please post after you've seen it.





flirtyfishy -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 7:53:49 PM)

What screening did you attend?  i was there (at the only actual theatre screening that there has been) and i don't recall a general consensus.  i have my own personal opinion of the movie which i will save for now,  but i do know that it was never intended to be a "lifestyle" movie.  i also know that it was a movie. . .nothing more or less and each person that sees it can decide for themselves.




Estring -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/4/2006 11:21:31 PM)

The Pet was pretty much what I was expecting (although hoping for more). It has porno level acting, no real bdsm, and pretensions of being meaningful, yet in reality being full of crap. Pretty lame.
The main character (the pet), seemed mildly retarded. And the idea that the death of your dog would lead you to conclude that having a human as a replacement pet seems quite a stretch to me. Lol.
If the intention of the movie was to show the horrors of real human trafficking, it failed miserably. If the intention is to sucker a bunch of BDSM'ers to dole out money hoping for a good movie, I fear it will succeed.




felicitousdove -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/5/2006 5:15:58 AM)

I guess it did succeed. I ordered our copy over amonth ago, hoping it would arrive in time for Xmas. Now i am afraid what was meant to be a thoughtful and erotic gift, will fall flat, and be a total disapointment.

Oh well.




lucyinthesky -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/5/2006 6:58:53 AM)

I will be honest...i havnt yet seen this movie...but after finding the review here...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825728/plotsummary   i really dont want to..     I feel more then a little vaugly insulted....because i just know this is going to mean more people looking down and sneering and more bad press....Im sorry but i just have to say it..    i dont like this Stevens guy...i dont care for him at all...   forgive me, but it seems like he's just makeing up something the maingroup will see, and feel good about because They can laugh and make fun at us "poor suckers" for how mentaly retarded we are...and i dont believe thats right...if someone wishes to make and put to the mass a lifestyle movie..by all means..please do the reserch..and have a care..  we exist, and not just to be put down as disgusting freaks.    ..ill apologise if this has been to forward of someone who hasnt seen it, i dont mean to cause anyone upset or anger..i just couldnt keep that bottled up ...><




jshima17 -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/5/2006 10:59:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lucyinthesky

I will be honest...i havnt yet seen this movie...but after finding the review here...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0825728/plotsummary   i really dont want to..     I feel more then a little vaugly insulted....because i just know this is going to mean more people looking down and sneering and more bad press....Im sorry but i just have to say it..    i dont like this Stevens guy...i dont care for him at all...   forgive me, but it seems like he's just makeing up something the maingroup will see, and feel good about because They can laugh and make fun at us "poor suckers" for how mentaly retarded we are...and i dont believe thats right...if someone wishes to make and put to the mass a lifestyle movie..by all means..please do the reserch..and have a care..  we exist, and not just to be put down as disgusting freaks.    ..ill apologise if this has been to forward of someone who hasnt seen it, i dont mean to cause anyone upset or anger..i just couldnt keep that bottled up ...><



I met the director at the screening...he's nothing like that

As far as your concerns regarding "more mean people looking down and sneering and more bad press"...then unfortuantely yes, some people may have this reaction to it, you can't please everyone...but realize that D Stevens was also trying to raise awareness to the social issue of human-slave-trafficking...if anything, i think that will be be" looked down upon and recieve more bad press," which would be good...before any negative light is related to the bdsm community from this movie




akisha -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/5/2006 12:54:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

So it sounds like I should stick to sexandsubmission.com for my BDSM porn, right?


try brutalmaster.com as well *S*




Tinygirl2 -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/5/2006 3:15:33 PM)

just got my copy -- thought it was thought provoking -- but Master slave is nice - the only really good people were the love story of the Master and his pet -- sort of fighting against all the evil around them - their relationship against greed was obvious -- the ONLY sane people were the Master and his pet -- they had a real relationship. The others were like representing the establishment -- all about money to me it was a beautiful love story -- my opinion and there is corruption out to destroy beauty T




Riesa -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/5/2006 3:41:26 PM)

I have just ordered mine from the US, I believe, (the pet movie website) I am in the Uk, I am looking forward to seeing it.




KennelMaster05 -> RE: Movie - The Pet (12/7/2006 7:37:56 PM)

I got my copy on Monday and couldn't wait to see it. I was so excited from the previews! Hmmmm..after watching it, not sure what to think. Obviously the acting left something to be desired. I understand what they were trying to say, but not sure it came out that way. I almost wished it focused more on the Millionaire and his pet, instead of involving all the organ harvesters and human traffickers.

The problem is that the vanilla population will view this, and as most of you have stated, view this as: "See! I told you those bondage freaks are sick, evil people!"
We don't need any more bad press. I dont hate the film, but it was not what I expected. I think there were some good elements, and some bad. Now we just need to find a real director that can show the lifestyle in the proper light - or do we REALLY want our lifestyle in the limelight? Just something to think about.




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