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Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/22/2006 8:20:09 PM   
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But it's incredibly fascinating.

(I'll cover a smidge below the link).

http://www.prosopagnosia.com/main/stones/  (incredible stuff).

These are folks who, for whatever reason (and it's entirely legit) can't recognize faces.

It's called "Face Blindness".

As if your face, the one they've seen every day, every year (you could literally be their Mom or their child) is a brand new face.

And yet even a new face would be something unique.  Recognizable in that it's different.  New.

Every face is not unique (for these), nor is it recognizable.

Sorry...I tend very to much love new data...this is certainly that.  I suspect most will look at this and go "HUH???".

(It's still remarkably fascinating stuff).

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 6:02:40 AM   
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I learned about that condition a few years ago and actually had the opportunity to meet and speak with someone who suffered from this.  It is facinating and (I think) more then a little bizzare.  She told me that she actually uses other cues to tell her who the person is such as body shape, hair cut, smell, the way that they stand or walk and things like that.
I can't even imagine what that would be like.

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 6:03:40 AM   
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im bad at recalling names!

if i waqs a rock ild be a diamond.

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 6:07:20 AM   
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Totally fascinating! I've sent it to a friend who is a social psychologist. He'll love it.

As an aside: To Native American's, rocks are "Stone People".

I'll remember a face for years. Names...uhg. I even tell my students (adults) on the first day of class that I will recognize then 3 years from now, but I highly suggest they say hi with their name. If they don't, I'm spending the whole conversation distracted because I'm thinking, "Who the fuck ARE you?"

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 6:25:43 AM   
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There's an article on just this subject in the most recent New Scientist in fact.

I did pass over the disorder in psychopathology - it is (like a lot of the aphasia type conditions) very interesting, very strange, and very hard to work out why it happens. The process is fiendishly complex, and difficult to imitate, let alone understand in toto.

If you're interested in this, try Oliver Sacks' The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat. Which is a compilation of case studies (you probably know who Sacks is, or at least saw Robin Williams playing him in Awakenings), of the more extraordinary type. Dr. Ramachamdran (I've almost certainly got his name partially wrong), is also very interesting in this general area - interesting stuff about phantom limbs, as well as dead hand type syndrome (where a part of the body is identiofied as belonging to somebody else, or being dead). [He also suggests shizophrenics may be able to tickle themselves]

One person in the New Scientist article uses hair styles as cues to identity, and described a colleague putting her hair into a ponytail and 'vanishing' - "her identity dissolved in front of me. It was very disconcerting."

Extra oddness in that most people with the condition may not realise that they should be able to do this.

Facial recognition is fascinating neurological mojo-magic

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 6:27:53 AM   
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I just read an article about this a few weeks ago.  I'm not sure where, maybe in the NY Times?  Very intriguing stuff.  Thanks for sharing the link.  

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 8:12:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterFireMaam

Totally fascinating! I've sent it to a friend who is a social psychologist. He'll love it.

As an aside: To Native American's, rocks are "Stone People".

I'll remember a face for years. Names...uhg. I even tell my students (adults) on the first day of class that I will recognize then 3 years from now, but I highly suggest they say hi with their name. If they don't, I'm spending the whole conversation distracted because I'm thinking, "Who the fuck ARE you?"

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There are students I assaulted back in 1991 who I can remember their face, what they wore, what their history was, how they fought, what they said in opening and closing circles.

No idea what their name is.

Kinda makes me a bit grumpy.  I usually apologize in advance that I will forget their name and ask again.

I have a friend who teaches school kids and tells them the first day when they have a question to start it out by telling her their name.  Works quite well for her.

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RE: Okay...this is hugely off anyone's radar... - 11/23/2006 8:47:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ScienceBoy

If you're interested in this, try Oliver Sacks' The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat. Which is a compilation of case studies (you probably know who Sacks is, or at least saw Robin Williams playing him in Awakenings), of the more extraordinary type.


Yeah.  I picked up that book about 20 years ago.  One of my favorite books of all time.  I've given away about 5 or 6 copies in that time.

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