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ORIGINAL: saskslave

This is an attempt to play political games and to continue to divide the US.  This is the second time Rangel has sponsored a bill like this, and when the first bill came up for a vote (in October 2004--four weeks before the election), Rangel voted against it.  It's just more political posturing from the hard-left of the Democrat Party.

And take a gander at this quote from Rangel:

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"There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

  He just insulted the vast majority of Congress--both Republicans and Democrats.

And "flimsy" evidence?  Yeah, real flimsy.

1)  One year away from having an atomic bomb
2)  At least 500 WMD found in Iraq after the liberation--WMD that Saddam claimed he didn't have
3)  Gave Abdul Rahman Yasmin (one of the Al Qaeda bombers who hit the World Trade Center in 1993--and is still at large) housing and put him on a govt salary.
4)  Openly sponsored international terrorism, even announcing to the world that he was now going to pay the families of Palestinian Arab homicide bombers $25,000--up from the previous $10,000.
5)  Shot at numerous US and UK aircraft--a violation of the ceasefire he signed.
6)  Attempted to assassinate a US president--definitely an act of war.  But the Adulterer-in-Chief only half-heaertedly lobbed a few bombs at Iraq after this clear act of war.
7)  Attacked 4 countries in 11 years; Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Israel.
8)  Saddam - and the UN - skimmed billions from the Oil for Food Program, a mega scandal that the Old Media (with the exception of Fox News and the opinion/editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal) ignored.

But we are supposed to ignore this because Saddam owed France, Germany, Russia, and China, billions from the chemicals, nuclear reactors, and military equipment he bought from them.  Thus the world was supposed to "contain" Saddam forever (Uday and Qusay would've taken over later) so he could pay these countries back and the corrupt UN could continue to skim billions.   Perhaps I'm lacking in "nuance" but this doesn't seem right. 

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061119/ap_on_go_co/military_draft

Rangle is at it again.    Wants to restart the draft.   Whatcha think?

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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Being that only TWO of the members of congress have a child serving in Iraq..it sure would make the powers that be think twice before they engage in wars.  The possibility that THEIR little darlings would be called up an any time might be a concern.
 
One the Other hand, forcing anyone to do anything (outside of WIITWD) gets a half-hearted commitment by the one being forced.
 
On the Third hand, some will welcome the push into maturity and the realities of life..

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at least as well at the draft dodger and traitor Bush has.

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The draft dodger Clinton has spoken  up at the outset, and I fought for that, he didn't hide.

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but as a canadian, what the fuck do you really have to do with american politics? pray tell?  Why don't you first decide your loyalty to the crown or to france, get a decent currency, show some initiative in your own, don't take advantage of our open borders to sell cheap agricultural goods and then get pissed off because you have to share waters with our borders......and just try to generally make yourself useful.  And furthermore, don't explain to us the difference between conservatives, liberals and other entities, unless you have somewhere to stand it the world, our stance is wrong, and I am in vehement disagreement with it, but  live here and deal with this shit day to day, many of your countrymen come here to take and don't give a fucking thing here, and I am left with a bunch of worthless moosehead quarters that don't work in vending machines or even worse your funny money.
So before you wail my healthcare, before you suck me dry, be at least useful, if you can avoid being a drain.

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I may be boring, but you're not.  Some of your replies are, I suspect unintentionally, hilarious

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

If we do put a draft in place, i hope it doesn't operate to allow so many to escape as the one 70's draft did.

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You're just discovering that NOW?

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2)  At least 500 WMD found in Iraq after the liberation--WMD that Saddam claimed he didn't have

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ORIGINAL: saskslave

Don't forget the real draft dodger--The Adulterer-in-Chief Bill Clinton.

But not America's greatest war hero - John Francois Kerry (who btw served in Vietnam) - who collected 17 Purple Hearts, 11 Silver Stars, and a Captain Cody Ring from a Cracker Jacks box--all in 4 months and with nary a scratch on him.