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letmecollaryou -> Can you declare your slave publically? (11/13/2006 9:41:39 PM)

The other day i had a chat with a female slave from U.K.After formal introduction she agreed to relocate to my area but with a condition.She put a question to me.The question in her words was," Can you declare me publically your slave in your area?" I was put in an embracing situation.I tried to make her understand that it was not practically possible for me to introduce her as my slave to the people of my area.People outside lifestyle can not understand this relation.She never heard to my reasons and said goodbye.That was it.I had never thought this way before.The scenes from arabian nights were just coming to the surface of my mind.I was stunt.May be it may not be a that big thing for you but for me it was a question put to me first time.I could not convince her.Perhaps she is a true slave and i am a weak master.Now i am posting all this just to know  your thoughts about the subject and i also have intution that i am missing something.May be you may educate me.I hope this thread will go long and various aspects of this subject will come up.




justinasamerk -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 10:15:34 AM)

Am i reading this correctly..You had one chat with a girl from the other side of the world and she wanted  you to acknowledge publically that she is your slave but you refused because of your current situation and she just ran off???
(does this make sense at all/)

Ok..realistically speaking, if you meet a girl who is your slave, what is wrong with  introducing her as  your slave to people of like minds/? Nothing, take  her  to a club, take her to a munch, or take her to  a group,  Note  i said  like minds....Explain that my job, my position, my family is  not aware  of my interest in this lifestyle and for that  i am unable to share you as my "slave" but can  share you as my partner, lover,  girlfriend  (ect)...If she o bjects  to that..then my  opinion its more about t he "SHOCK" value  in her eyes that she wants  to create this  exhibitionist view of  the world she lives in, and she is satisfying her own needs, not you as her dominant....
and well  back to my first  thought..If she was willing to relocate a fter only  talking one time to  you...OMG...get the straight  jacket..this is  insanity...





MagiksSlave -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 10:20:25 AM)

Um yeah something smells fishy.
In my eye she really made an unreasonable request. Heck maybe that was done on perpose part of the game knowing you would say you couldnt so she could then run who knows. Eather way she dont sound so stable so your prolly better of in MY opinion

Magik's slave




slavekaida -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 10:23:37 AM)

Now who is the Master here? First off, I'd keep anyone at arms reach if after only one chat online and they agreed to move around the world. This says so many things, not least of which this person is very insecure in herself, but perhaps also wants the offical immigration the easy way, and/or wants to be 'looked after' financially. However, looking around all this, if she is putting restrictions on you then she is not acting in a slave like way. I agree with the other post in that announcing someone as ones slave with like minds is a solution and for my past Dom's and current Owner this is how we do it, to my family and friends he is just a friend, nothing more. This works. But to put that kind of pressure on any relationship after only one conversation is very immature and unrealistic.

Just my two pence worth.

561-903-144




LadyHugs -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 10:31:09 AM)

Dear letmecollaryou, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eye, there are two sides of the story, to which we're missing some parts as to get the leading up to that question.
 
If I did have a slave, I could publicly declare them as my slave in most cases.  Having a good sense of humor, I have often told store clerks how much I could use a slave to help me with my purchases or help me with the house.  They just laugh and often agree.  It really depends on the delivery. [Grins/winks] And, the neat part is--it is true!
 
That said, there must always be good judgment.  Each circumstances presents a snap choice of what you want to say and or what you need to say.
 
Indeed, this lass may have been fishing for what response you may have had; as to come to a conclusion if you were a bedroom or closet Master or, if you could easily declare her as your slave in public.  The loop hole that is missing; is what is the lass' definition of public.  It could mean on the sidewalk, in a BDSM club or what. That is where the assumptions can go in every which way.
 
If given that question again, I would say "Yes, with an explaination" and then apply under the conditions you could say yes.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs




SirLordTrainer -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 10:33:22 AM)

~Fast reply~ 

Uh huh.. real fishy.. like one o those chatroom wannabe critters




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 10:34:28 AM)

She didn't make any unreasonable request.

She is someone who is out and wants to live a life where she is always comfortably out about who she is and NEVER has to worry or cringe in any social situation about being "a slave."

Granted, she might also just be an attention hog who gets off on throwing out "slave" as a way to shock people...but she COULD have just fine motives previously mentioned.

Deciding who you will be with and what relationship will work for you does NOT make a person less of a slave.  If a slave has a limit on having children and a master has children, it's not bad or wrong or less slavely of her to say "Sorry, not going to happen."

She's not putting restrictions or demands or even making requests- she's saying "This is how I need to live in my life, if it's not how you can live and be happy, then we aren't right for eachother."

Granted, this situation in itself sounds pretty silly and cyber with people who aren't really sure what they are doing..BUT that doesn't change the point.  Slaves SHOULD NOT SETTLE for anything less than a relationship that is perfectly fulfilling for who they are.

Slave does not equal "accept any dork who says they are a master because a slave doesn't get to make any standards."




slavejali -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 11:37:59 AM)

I agree with LadyHugs and LyckyAlbatross, she may have been simply trying to gain information about a propsective Master and the life being with him would bring to see if it was compatable with how she lived. I don't see anything wrong with the question.

to the OP: see it like she has done you a favor, she has already realised before you, that you aren't compatable and saved you a lot of grief. No use trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.

When I was first chatting with Master, I had very definate questions that had to be answered appropriately. Simply because, if the answers he gave didn't fit me, what would be the point of continuing any conversation or entangling my emotions in a situation that would be destined for grief.




thetammyjo -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 12:57:11 PM)

Well, I can declare Fox my slave publically?

Sure, I just have to be willing (we all three) have to be willing to deal with all the possible consequences.

But then I think, would I publically declare other types of relationships? If so, under what circumstances? I should also think about the motivations for doing so.

Frankly how I except Fox to behave look no different than any decent man would act in public if he were bowing to the will of his partner -- happens all the time and either there are lot more kinky folks around me or its just one of the many ways for relationships to function.

What is the value to them or us for them to know he's my slave? Introducing him as my slave to those who are not kinky benefits them not at all -- he isn't going to be their slave afterall. However they might treat him differently and expect him to be weak or submissive -- he isn't the first EVER and he is only the second to me.

It might benefit me by making me feel important and the same might go for him.

I just introduce him as "Fox" and if further questions are asked, I'm honest but I give them the level of information they need to know and seem to be able to handle.

If being declared your slave in all public venues is a kinky or need of that woman and it does not match with your philosophy, then count your blessings that she asked now and not later or never asked at all but only expected it.

Personally I think there is a difference between being in the closet, being out of the closet, and being in people's faces.




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 2:07:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear letmecollaryou, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
In my mind's eye, there are two sides of the story, to which we're missing some parts as to get the leading up to that question.
 
If I did have a slave, I could publicly declare them as my slave in most cases.  Having a good sense of humor, I have often told store clerks how much I could use a slave to help me with my purchases or help me with the house.  They just laugh and often agree.  It really depends on the delivery. [Grins/winks] And, the neat part is--it is true!
 
That said, there must always be good judgment.  Each circumstances presents a snap choice of what you want to say and or what you need to say.
 
Indeed, this lass may have been fishing for what response you may have had; as to come to a conclusion if you were a bedroom or closet Master or, if you could easily declare her as your slave in public.  The loop hole that is missing; is what is the lass' definition of public.  It could mean on the sidewalk, in a BDSM club or what. That is where the assumptions can go in every which way.
 
If given that question again, I would say "Yes, with an explaination" and then apply under the conditions you could say yes.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs



I once again agree with Your Wisdom.

Being around people that are aware of My choices in Life I could and have been able to say and this is My slave girl bishop...




QuietDom -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 5:06:37 PM)

Another twist on this thought... should you declare your slave when passing through Customs?  For those heavily into objectification, the slave is just another sort of carry-on...

(Though any airline will object if you try to stuff somebody into the overhead compartment)




MistressSassy66 -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 5:11:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: QuietDom

Another twist on this thought... should you declare your slave when passing through Customs?  For those heavily into objectification, the slave is just another sort of carry-on...

(Though any airline will object if you try to stuff somebody into the overhead compartment)


They would only complain if they could see them...If you shipped them in a big suitcase....Or a dog crate maybe? I like the dog crate idea better than the suitcase.




ExSteelAgain -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 5:11:30 PM)

Under the seat is okay.

So publicly I can. Publically, I have no idea. 




MagiksSlave -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 5:32:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: QuietDom

Another twist on this thought... should you declare your slave when passing through Customs?  For those heavily into objectification, the slave is just another sort of carry-on...

(Though any airline will object if you try to stuff somebody into the overhead compartment)


LOL When was the last time you needed to pay $300 for a ticket for a caryon??

Magik's slave




MistressMelissa -> RE: Can you declare your slave publically? (11/14/2006 5:58:42 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: letmecollaryou

The other day i had a chat with a female slave from U.K.After formal introduction she agreed to relocate to my area but with a condition.She put a question to me.The question in her words was," Can you declare me publically your slave in your area?" I was put in an embracing situation.I tried to make her understand that it was not practically possible for me to introduce her as my slave to the people of my area.People outside lifestyle can not understand this relation.She never heard to my reasons and said goodbye.That was it.I had never thought this way before.The scenes from arabian nights were just coming to the surface of my mind.I was stunt.May be it may not be a that big thing for you but for me it was a question put to me first time.I could not convince her.Perhaps she is a true slave and i am a weak master.Now i am posting all this just to know  your thoughts about the subject and i also have intution that i am missing something.May be you may educate me.I hope this thread will go long and various aspects of this subject will come up.


Something to consider. I have a friend from England who moved to the US and marry his slave. He made the comment one day over Guinness that were he back home, he could walk his girl on a leash right down Main St and no one would bat an eye. But here in America he'd probably get his tush arrested. Having been to Europe and Amsterdam in particular I can attest that the Europeans don't share our social hang ups about sex. The would "slave" is not the nasty word it is here. While the word slave, possibly due to our history and the civil war carries a much deep connotation in the US than it does in Europe. In 1991 when I stepped off the plane in Brussels I was greeted by a bill board of a naked lady in bondage. I looked at my dad who responded "the moral majority does not live here".

Just a thought,




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