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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/26/2006 3:32:55 AM   
mskathy39


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Mons,
   If the house is yours you should get rid of them. Fuck giving them time to find somewhere else to live, they don't seem to have your best interest at heart. As for the son, it is probably time to allow him to fly on his own. One of the ideas another had was to give them an eviction notice, if they are paying rent then you can legally get them to move but it will take a little more time than to just have their shit removed from your house. If the house is not yours, perhaps moving would be a good idea, moving far enough away that it would be inconvenient for your sister to suck up to you again and have you allow her to move in again.

Just My thoughts.

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/26/2006 3:33:28 AM   
mons


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greetings 

i want to thank you for you reply i am in cousling and he is very good. i do not know which letter you read but you seem angry at me i came her to fellow dominant woman i ask for help not to be blow aways with your angry and what if i mention i am doimnant is there something wrong. i am not in a dangerous place i have problem like many other families i have a son who is not being respectful. he had a girlfriend who is and can be a stalker. i am a mother first more then anything i am concern with my son. all other things are passed over when he come to him. the mistake you have made it you taken my words of feeling of hurt and worried and thought i was weak your mistaken. i have always taken the first word or sentence of a rpely and looked at it and i saw angry and distaste with my family problem. no one is beating on me. it is a normal family well not normal but a different thing going on. this is a place for advice not a someone to tell me off you could had done it better i will reread my post to found out why you mention i kept saying i am a domme and why did this bother you so much to talk down to me. i will await you reply to me

thank you

mon

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/26/2006 3:45:39 AM   
mons


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greetings sierra

i reread my post and reply did anywhere did i say someone was hitting me beating me this is why so many will not come to ask for adivce and yes this is the place to come to many of problem and if this were the case all of us would need something this is a place where dominants master submissvie come to to ask question to ask for help when other in the vanilla reaml do not understand how i and many other feel. to your shock many have given me such good answer. and dysfuctional family yes i am sure all of us have someone who is off the wall but do not judge me by three letter. you wrote as if you were sick of hearing me if you read back you will see why i put that in there

i thank for you advice and you take care

thank all for being there i know i over wrote it was a stressful time for me thank you again

mons

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/26/2006 7:20:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mons

greetings  

i do not know which letter you read but you seem angry at me i came her to fellow dominant woman i ask for help not to be blow aways with your angry and what if i mention i am doimnant is there something wrong.


mon,

I'm not angry at all. Many other people have said that this whole thing sounds like a trainwreck in the making and instead of offering what might be useless information based on only what you've said here, I suggested another avenue.

From what I read, it sounded more like things were accelerating and whether or not anyone actually raised a hand or not, was beside the point. You yourself said, "yes i grow up in a house of horror drown puppies my father knife my mother in front of us mother was raped in front of all of us i will never forget that sight " So, even if no one is being abused over there, I read what sounded as if there was something pretty horrible in the making and I offered up the prospect of counselling. If you are already seeing someone, then of course, good for you. But you were the one who posted in a general forum and that invites response - even from people who self-identify as submissive (whatever that has to do with anything) - even when you don't like the response.

Anger would imply that I know you in one way or another, and I don't. I simply read three or four posts, one following right after the other that gave me the impression that things were really out of control over there.

And I had no problems reading what you said, so it wasn't your writing style or disability that predisposed me to thinking that way. I understand the holidays can play hell on some folks, and while I would have no idea if things could get out of hand there or not, from the tone of your posts, it sure sounded like it. Hence, the urging to counselling.

If you want to take me to task regarding the dominant focused comments, we can do that, but this didn't seem to be the place for it. I'd suggest that right now, you're pretty upset by everything going on there that you're seeing attacks where there are none.

I hope things turn out well for you and your family.

juliet

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/26/2006 8:35:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mons

greeting to all

i need a fast answer my son and my sister husband had it out my son was not paying what he need not helping or anything somewhere along the hollering my brother in law told him to suck he dick my son is telling my family he said this is is hurt you see my son has nver had anyone come here and land down the law a man i mean was this a very wrong thing to say my son is 26 no baby but he is so upset please no sexual jokes i need so help and i would be grateful to all and all thank you for answer yes i grow up in a house of horror drown puppies my father knife my mother in front of us mother was raped in front of all of us i will never forget that sight thanks so

mons

I'm not really sure what you're asking for fast answers to, but I'll assume it's the general situation for this post.

I agree with Juliet - there are lots of free resources out there to help people and families, and it sounds like you really need to tap into them right now and get some professional help before this gets worse.

As for your son and brother-in-law fighting, they're both adults, so I'd advise staying out of it completely. Yes, it was wrong to say, "Suck my dick" to your son, but I'm wondering why your son isn't writing that comment off as coming from a complete loser who has no bearing on his life (at least that's how you've portrayed your B-I-L), instead of getting so upset over it that he needs to run to Mommy for comfort. That's what an adult would do. All of these people sound exceedingly immature; there's no need to involve yourself in their childish actions.

The bottom line is, what you've been doing so far isn't working for you, so you need to make changes. If that means cutting your sister and her hubby loose, and telling your son he needs to grow up and distance himself from people who impact him negatively, so be it. If you need to lay down house rules (I'd suggest writing them down and going over them with everyone who spends any amount of time there, letting them know breaking a rule will get them out of the house) and disallow your son's girlfriend from coming to the house if she breaks those rules, do it. By doing different yourself (getting help, standing up to people, distancing yourself), you'll be setting a good example for your son, too.

I also agree this isn't a D/s issue, but perhaps it'd be good to remember only doormats, not Dominants or submissives, continue to be around people who are disrespectful and otherwise bring negative energy into their lives. Doormats lack enough self-esteem to stand up for themselves, resolve their issues/become healthy and get out of that victim mentality. So, if you want to think about it from a D/s perspective, deciding whether you want to be a Domme or a doormat will be your first step.

Best of luck to you in getting help, making changes and working toward peace and happiness, Mons.

BTW, I'm not speaking for akbarbarian, of course, but I interpreted his comment on spelling and grammar to be simply a statement about his lack of understanding, rather than an insult. To be honest, I've had some trouble interpreting your writing as well, and that's certainly not meant to be hurtful (quite the opposite, in fact - I'm one of many who considers it very helpful when people let me know they're having difficulty with my communication style because I can't try to fix it if they don't tell me there's a problem!). I understand how frustrating and painful learning disabilities can be; I've worked with many who have dyslexia and other troubles and my husband struggles with several of them.

I mention this for two reasons:
1) One of the things that has helped my husband and others communicate more effectively in mediums such as this is writing longer/more complex posts out in a word processing program (e.g. Microsoft Word or OpenOffice [which is free]) that catches most typos, spelling and grammar errors. It's far from perfect, but it has helped a lot. So, that might be something you may consider trying if you believe it's a problem.

2) It occured to me that there might be a similarity in your current situation and how you reacted to AK's comment. I understand how comments on this can touch a sore spot, and we react differently when we're under stress, but perhaps you took something that spoke more about the person who made the comment personally, much like you and your son have with your B-I-L's "Suck my dick" comment. Of course the intent behind "I don't understand you completely" is totally different, but my point is that being so sensitive/internalizing/taking these things so personally may be contributing to your problems and stress. I'm very sensitive, too, and even well-intentioned comments can hurt, but a few years ago I realized it was unnecessary for me to be upset by many things, and a big part of that was my lack of self-esteem and confidence. I'm still sensitive, but life has gotten a lot better since I started brushing off and taking things as they were intended. So, maybe this is something that would be helpful to you also, or at least something you could experiment with now to see how it affects your stress level. Just an idea. :-)

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/27/2006 2:52:37 AM   
mons


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sierria greeting

i meant no angry at you i do say i am sorry it been mess with my son and people will come family have no ideal what is going on in the home and come and say wild things you caught me when my niece who is so dsyfunctional as they come and said something that she has no ideal abut i was mad at her not you your right but to my great suprise it is working out no more things becase my sone crazy girlfriend does not come her anymore stealing and the stress was she called and was calling so much one day and it was a nightmare i had told her not to call when i am sleeping early moring or late night, i have sleep apean and if i am in a dream state i will take it off. i told her this i can not breathe with out it and so she did this that night call so much then 530 in the morning she knocks on my door wakes everyone up and then tell me my son said he is in trouble sick in his room this firghen everyone so we konck and my siste husband came and he knock we did get him up she is behind us and she is telling him yoiu call me 5 minutes ago and he like i did not. so she has been a rpoblem a stalker in the making so my son had a word fight with my sister husband which needed to be said he has left i am worried but he is  grown man so i took my angry put on you you adivce was good but i do see a therpist and he is very good but i am a mother i wil worried about him no one has hit anyone we do not do this here in this home never it been hard this was like a nightmare for me i miss him but he was doing things not right i hope he see. things different and i do thank you if it were someone hitting anyone here i would call the police in this area they come fast they have nothing to do. as for my childhood it was so bad but this is why we do not have fist fighting no one drinks in this home no drugs all is words and the only word fight was my son being told he should treat me better then he has and sense i am in this lifestlye it is hard for me to bring out my words to him .

again thank you
mons

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/27/2006 3:08:56 AM   
mons


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greeting racket

i wish you could has seen my writitng  before this is a big change for me now when you write oncollar me i do not see using mircosoft word to correct thing i do write but it is not my spelling that is wrong oh yes i have many mistake. it is word placement sentence structure that is my dyslexic problem but as long as some of you can undestand the basic things i am writing i am okay i am in the part of being thtought to rewrite and i have learn so much but when i am upset and feel the stress my writing show it so much more i had many other here help me and i thank them and i am not a doormat for anyone if anyone of you has childern or you do not you will see what i mean my son is so smart intellgent that i adore him but childern grow if someone had told me that my son would act disrespectful to ,me i would had laugh. thank you all of everyone of your reply my writing is no the subject here it is my feeling of dominant and how to handle my family anf it is ds i am a part of this collar me.

take care all

mons

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/27/2006 11:56:18 AM   
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Juliet is right, this goes far beyond D/s.  Check yourself into a woman's shelter if you need to, but don't let this continue.  You said you are strong willed.  I think what you do with your strength matters more than how much you have.  I hope you do the right thing for yourself.

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/27/2006 11:59:29 AM   
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I also agree with Beautiful Racket.  The difficulty I have reading the OP is just that, difficulty.  I might be more critical when a post simply looks sloppy with little effort put in to making it readable, but in this case I had a feeling that was not the cause.  Try her idea and use a program to help make the posts readable, and people will be able to understand the posts better.

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/27/2006 3:48:12 PM   
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mons,
    I am sorry that you are going through all this.  You seem to be a good hearted person by opening the doors of your home to those in need.  
    I sort of understand what you are saying--you are a Domme therefore you should not be allowing others to walk all over you.   Well, I look at it this way, you are human.   These family members know exactly what buttons to press and I really feel they delight in pulling you down and perhaps they do this simply because they know you are a Domme.   Sort of like, "Ha ha, look we made the Domme cry."  
    I don't think it is possible to gain respect from them simply because you are a Domme and I don't think it possible to control their actions as you would control the actions of a submissive.   
   What you can control is your home and the negativity that is happening inside it's walls.   Personally, I'd give them notice to get out.   It's often difficult to do this especially if it is a family member and you love them.   But remember even though you love them you don't have to love their actions.   If it were me, I would be up front with my son and my sister and say, "I do love you but I don't like the way I am being treated.   If you are going to continue treating me in this manner, I owe it to myself not to associate with you."
     I hope that everything works out for you.  
            
    

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RE: dominant but not with family - 12/28/2006 3:45:05 AM   
mons


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greetings to all

today was the last straw there was no fighting just words that made me so mad i just so do not want to talk with either one of them i am making plans to have them move . i am lucky i am an artist i have that to keep me sane and for once in my life i can say i am bettet then someone "them" i am glad i could tell all of you the things that were happening here, all of your advice is wonderful i will do what i know best use my spoken word which is so much better then my written words. they will move never again will i let anyone in my family treat me so bad that i LOL felt like leaving a insecure man and a sister who loves him more then her twin different love but wow it is like oh well. i remember someone say do not get upset with a nothing and i have learn this and will not assoicae with them. i will be okay thank god there is no voilent ways in this place but word can hurt just as much . they are on notice to move  and as soon as they can and i do not care where they will move too and how fare does not matter.  

but thank you all for you good sound advice i will remember all of it and oh yes the person you wrote about "look were making a domme cry " yes he know i am a domme and has pleasure in seeing me just not say much to him. what goes around comes around thank all so much

mons

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