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I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 2:07:29 AM

Kalira

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I BELONG to "XXXXX"
"XXXXX" OWNS ME
I AM "XXXXX' SLAVE/SUBMISSIVE

I can remember back when I was with my late master and those words, when spoken or written, would feel me with a sense of pride, purpose, and contentment. I can remember the joy that I would get when I would repeat them to myself; the pride that filled me when said to others. Those words were powerful in themselves in that they made me feel more secure in my place at his feet.

Looking back, I can see that my 'reliance' on those words were nothing more me trying to convince myself of my place in the scheme of things. That by saying or writing them somehow made the fact more real in some way.

Now a days, the words themselves have no impact on me at all. Someone asks me who Master is, and I respond in a way that is just mechanical, almost emotionless. And yet, the FEELING of belonging, being owned; is more intense now than it ever was in the past. I no longer need the words to convince myself of where I belong, or to whom.

Just curious as to how others view the words; and the reasons behind why they use them.

(just some random thoughts on a sleepless Sunday night/Monday morning )

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 2:17:55 AM

SamKeithsslave

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For me making the statement I am Keiths slave/sub etc gives me a sense of pride. I akin it to saying "This is my fiance", or "this is my husband". Initially the sounds of the words coming out of your mouth are almost unbelieveable, as though its someone else. But yes, in time being someones fiancee or wife or slave and having to announce it or introduce yourself as it doesnt seem neccessary, it doesnt sound powerful. Yet, as you say the sense of being owed and belonging is still powerful and great.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 2:21:22 AM

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I've often found the written word proclaiming ownership or belonging much too juvinal for my tastes.
It's almost like a badge to show the world or used as a sheild in an effort to keep the bad one's at bay.
For me, simply knowing inside that I am owned is enough and it guides me accordingly.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 3:04:00 AM

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When you're with the right person, what you say makes all the difference on what you mean. It's like the phrase "I love you" "I love you too" That to can me mechanical and lack emotion.

When I introduce Pet as my Finace, I still get the happy gitters. I wonder how it will feel when I say "Hey, good to meet you, this is my wife."

Anyways, I find that it's not what you say but how you say it.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 4:00:46 AM

SirLordTrainer

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Quivver

I've often found the written word proclaiming ownership or belonging much too juvinal for my tastes.
It's almost like a badge to show the world or used as a sheild in an effort to keep the bad one's at bay.
For me, simply knowing inside that I am owned is enough and it guides me accordingly.

I agree, to Me its like someone announcing their a Dom/me, sub or slave . Ok great, good for you, so what, next.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 6:27:17 AM

emdoub

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirLordTrainer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Quivver

I've often found the written word proclaiming ownership or belonging much too juvinal for my tastes.
It's almost like a badge to show the world or used as a sheild in an effort to keep the bad one's at bay.
For me, simply knowing inside that I am owned is enough and it guides me accordingly.

I agree, to Me its like someone announcing their a Dom/me, sub or slave . Ok great, good for you, so what, next.

<shrug> To me, it's always been useful information, much the same as at a high school event I attended Satyrday night, the usual introduction went "I'm Sally, that's my husband John, and that's Kelly, our 10th-grader over there in the purple shirt".

It lets people know your relationship status, and who you're in that relationship with, and something about the shape of that relationship.

Vital information in most social circles, isn't it?

Midnight Writer
(parent of that girl over *there*, in the beige broomstick skirt)

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 6:48:03 AM

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I have it on there to mainly as a informative thing. I know in my heart who I belong to. Mostly to inform others who to contact if they have questions that have to do with me. I really do not care what others think of it. I never did it with my former Masters/ Mistress and before the internet it was just word of mouth. I do not live my life for people on cm. So if someone doesn't like what I state, I really don't care.

< Message edited by sweetnurseBBW -- 11/13/2006 7:00:51 AM >

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 6:59:57 AM

LeeMN

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Hey, MW!

I figured evenutally I would bump into you here.

Not that I get to spend much more time here than anywhere else doing the grad student thing... Although it looks like I will *gasp* be able to attend all of TIES in December, rather than wandering in after class...

And yes, I agree... it IS useful information to know... unless you get a case where someone says "I am owned by Ma'amScaryBitch (hopefully no one actually is using this nick...). I am looking to be owned by a Domme." In that instance, its pretty damn insulting to Ma'amScaryBitch. And yeah, I've seen that on here, too.

Hugs atcha, and hope to be face-to-face with you soon!

Lee
...who thinks its a scream that she is labelled "vanilla" and MW is labelled "newbie" on here...

...and who waves to the girl in the beige broomstick skirt...

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 7:09:07 AM

toservez

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I cannot say that uttering the words or writing it down was ever something that would give me some sort of jolt emotionally. Certainly when the relationship was new those type of words came out of me with a little more passion and eagerness but just not to the point of the whole world just had to know. I like FangsNfeet comparrison to fiance and wife.

For me when I see others do it my reaction depends on the context of it as I have seen this done for several purposes from information exchange, statement of love, a way to accept their situation like the OP first did and others. The only problem I have is when people do it in such a heavy handed way in inappropriate situations, usually subsituting the statement for actual communication. I also worry when I see a person do it so often and in such a strong way that I am concerned that the person has tied their whole soul into their Master/Mistress that they have stopped being a fully functioning human being and some big crash is going to happen down the road.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 7:11:06 AM

medievalwench

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i mentioned this in a thread as my Master does not like to say that He 'owns' me or that i am His 'property', i have no problem with that, but was curious as to whether it was common as the majority of Dom/mes seem to use those phrases in reference to their subs or slaves.
personally i think He can call me whatever He wishes, it is in the heart that things lie, not in what words He uses. He very rarely says that He loves me ot that i am His but i know that is the case and when He does say it it makes me feel it all the more for its rarity.
Sincerely,
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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 7:15:04 AM

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Words have impact on me, and I hope they always do.

But it's very warming to know that someone doesn't need to use words as a way to shield from insecurity, and instead has reached a point of security within themselves.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 9:43:47 AM

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I dunno, i've never really used the words. I've seen others use the words and i think its quite interesting and if its online, i generally suss out who their owner is. I've a tag on my collar now that says "Property of Master XXX" but i didnt write - nor did i say it. heh

So i dunno - never occured to me TO say it

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 9:51:22 AM

ExSteelAgain

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Until we come up with some new words, they are the best we have if we want to communicate verbally.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 10:24:29 AM

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well, i just used them. (to those who've gotten them from me, it's not a line) they come in very handy when some of the doms e-mail. i know i don't have to respond but i find it cuts through alot of nonsense if i just say up front that i'm in a ltr (owned/belong to). if they chose to continue a correspondence on a friends basis great! i've run across some really interesting people that way. in that circumstance i don't get the warm fuzzies. in another context, yes, i like the internal response they create and i hope it never goes away! similarly, if i see Master unexpectedly, my heart still goes pitter-patter (after 24 years).

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 10:51:16 AM

sweetnurseBBW

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Maybe some are just proud of their owners and want to express it. I do not think it is a sign of insecurity to be proud of something.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 10:57:08 AM

amaidiamond

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When I got together with my Dom, I was not allowed to call him "Sir" I had to use his name, this for me felt totally unnatural because for me he was Sir, he had my respect and it seemed natural that he should be called that, however he would not let me as in the past he has had girls who use it only to reinforce the dynamic, and that should not be something it is used for in his eyes.
Now he will allow it, and I am so glad, saves me constantly biting my tounge!
I do get the warm glowy feeling when he introduces me as his, but it is the same when I am introduced as his sub (fet crowd) or his other half (nilla crowd)
I think it's just the warm fuzzies at being with such a wonderful man!
As for name on profile, it saves all those irritating.....are you owned questions! (profile states clearly not looking, searches set to friends only but still they ask!)

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 11:48:11 AM

slavejali

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kalira

I BELONG to "XXXXX"
"XXXXX" OWNS ME
I AM "XXXXX' SLAVE/SUBMISSIVE

Just curious as to how others view the words; and the reasons behind why they use them.

I use the words as a descriptive tool for communication. In ancient languages, such as sanskrit, the spoken and written word, down to each syllable, held power, there was no room for individual interpretation. Today, in the langauges we use, words mean different things to different people and so have lost a lot of the power that could be had through language exchange and transference. I think for that to be true within modern language, we have to "give" words meaning, this can come from our underlaying feelings and perspective of each word we use.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 11:56:56 AM

DiurnalVampire

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Angel is thrilled to be able to say he is owned by me. He announces it in his profile, and to any Domme that has expressed interest in him since he was collared. However, its more along the lines of turning down a suitor becasue you already have a girlfriend. It is a connection he had been waiting for for a long time and it is still rather new to him.
Thankfully, though, he doesnt announce it just for the sake of announcing it. We arent all showy about our relationship, our vanilla gf/bf one or our lifestyle one. He knows he is owned, and that is where he gets his real comfort. Right now, with the distance, he likes to hear it as much as he likes hearing I Love You, becasue it confirms the connection even over the distance.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 12:28:22 PM

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Those times I've seen people use the words "x, proud slave to Master Y" in chat rooms or on message boards, it has usually been by those who were involved in a purely online relationship because both X and Y are known in that online community. Otherwise there's no point in naming the affiliation.

So I've generally avoided it because my relationship isn't cyber and also because nobody knows my Master (he doesn't post to this forum or any to my knowledge). Otherwise I'm fairly neutral about it.

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RE: I belong to; I am owned by; etc - 11/13/2006 1:05:18 PM

BrutalAntipathy

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Nothing says owned better than a brand. Perhaps I should sear my initials into her ass, snap a picture of it, and have her use it as her avatar. In fact, I think that I'll do just that.

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