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Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 12:39:42 PM

mistoferin

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I went to move one of my antique Belleek vases for dusting and accidently knocked it off the shelf. The rim of it broke. I think it is beyond piecing it together as some of the pieces are little more than slivers. It just happens to be a piece that has quite a bit of sentimental value to me though, so I don't want to just pitch it. I know that glass can be cut....does anyone know if this can be cut down just below the break? It is a fine parian china.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 12:42:54 PM

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Look in the yellow pages and find a pottery place, bring your stuff and talk over the options..................
or an high class antique dealer can recommend a good one.

Please cyber kow-tow, for a cyber-beating with your ( | ) part of the keyboard towards the screen, this is insufferable.........I won't have it.............

Shucks that is a shame, but it is a recoverable error.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 12:44:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I went to move one of my antique Belleek vases for dusting and accidently knocked it off the shelf. The rim of it broke. I think it is beyond piecing it together as some of the pieces are little more than slivers. It just happens to be a piece that has quite a bit of sentimental value to me though, so I don't want to just pitch it. I know that glass can be cut....does anyone know if this can be cut down just below the break? It is a fine parian china.

If it is extremely valuable, pick up every single shard you can possibly find and take it to somebody who specializes in antique restoration.

It wont be cheap, but they will do the best job they can.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 12:52:11 PM

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If it is of great value to you..I would suggest piecing it and filling the tiny cracks in with wood putty ,(if there are enough big pieces..).
After it dries you can touch up for color or not
I have done this before.
The wood putty has a good solid feel when you work with it..

If you do cut it please let me know how it turned out.
It is very difficult to cut china.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 12:54:26 PM

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it can be ground and refired or an excellent potter can reslip in the broken parts and refire it.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 1:09:38 PM

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Well I have gathered all the pieces I can find and put them in an envelope. I went over the carpet with a magnifying glass so I think I have them all. I have a friend of mine who does restoration work for museums and I have a call in to him....I surely hope he can fix it. It is just so translucently thin though I am just not sure. Thanks all, taking it in really is good advice.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 1:11:43 PM

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mistoferin, I agree, collect all the pieces, and bring them to a specialist antique repair shop...here is a true story (even I can't believe it) according to my mother, when I was a baby in a crib, I managed to move around the room, and destroyed two porcelein lamps...and they shattered in a million pieces. Unbelievably, somehow, in a country like Chile in the 1980's which lacked many things (now its very different and much better) this specialist somehow glued the pieces together, and somehow covered it with what seems like a porcelein finish and looks like they have never ever been broken....to me it seems amazing. So my point is....if this could be done in an impoverished country like Chile in the early 80's, it can be done for sure in a country like the United States with thousands of specialists....although it will be more expensive, if you value it like you say you do, just don't be frugal and fix it with the best. There is hope.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 1:27:32 PM

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I know that there are people that specialize in porcelain and china repair, and although Belleek is hard to restore due to its opalescent qualities, my sister has some that was repaired fairly well, and you can always display the piece with the break to the back

Hope that helps

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 1:37:21 PM

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MofE: Ouch. Back in the day when I was curating and handling a lot of fine decorative porcelains for several midwestern museums, we used these folks for all of our ceramic conservation:

Bradshaw & Whelan
P.O. Box 18521
          Asheville, NC 28814 USA
http://ceramicbooks.com/bwrestore.htm
Telephone (9 AM - 7 PM EST)
Toll-free in the US at 1-877-244-0716
           International: 828-253-1829
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612-233-1829
    Electronic mail
General Information and sales: [email protected]

Superb work, museum quality, stunningly expensive. Check out the website for "tips".

Good luck.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 2:20:00 PM

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Wow...thanks guys....I'm not going to lose hope then or get too upset!!! I'm not interested in ever selling it so I'm not really worried about it's value that way, although I am sure it just dropped significantly. The piece was given to me by my sister though and it is one that belonged to my grandmother ....so I am far more interested in it's sentimental value than it's monetary value. I have a fairly large Belleek collection but most of it I have picked up over the years myself. I only have a few family pieces.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 4:17:04 PM

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as priceless as it sounds, might it be insured?

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 4:47:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Wow...thanks guys....I'm not going to lose hope then or get too upset!!! I'm not interested in ever selling it so I'm not really worried about it's value that way, although I am sure it just dropped significantly. The piece was given to me by my sister though and it is one that belonged to my grandmother ....so I am far more interested in it's sentimental value than it's monetary value. I have a fairly large Belleek collection but most of it I have picked up over the years myself. I only have a few family pieces.

When I was dealing antiques I broke a pitcher that I picked up at auction for a song for 55 bucks. I had a feeling about it, it was so lovely. It turned out to be early american prescut glass cambridge which was also done in a green carnival glass. It was a rare find, and I was going to sell it at a good price for 600 bucks. I set it down on the corner of my desk and the phone rang unexpectedly, I reached for the phone and knocked it off chipping it with a large crack down the side. I cried, not for the money I had lost (although money like that to a small business is nothing to sneeze at), I cried because glass collectors noted everytime an object like this comes up for sale... and it was a rare american piece, a work of art, and I had busted it... it still makes me mad at myself today when I think about it

I kept the piece, it is stored in my closet, and one day I will display it when I get over being mad at myself.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 6:06:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I went to move one of my antique Belleek vases for dusting and accidently knocked it off the shelf. The rim of it broke. I think it is beyond piecing it together as some of the pieces are little more than slivers. It just happens to be a piece that has quite a bit of sentimental value to me though, so I don't want to just pitch it. I know that glass can be cut....does anyone know if this can be cut down just below the break? It is a fine parian china.

As someone who has collected ancient earthen wares from the Hopewell and Mississippian cultures.... I'm hear to tell you any pottery vessel can be restored. I've seen stuff 1500 years old come out of the ground in dozens of pieces and then restored so well even the most seasoned collectors couldn't tell.

A link with a recommendation is on the way.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 9:12:37 PM

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Here here...yes, china can be fixed. My folks had a very expensive art pottery platter that got broken (by a 2 year old nephew). They found a potter who repaired, reglazed and refired the piece - it was not inexpensive but you can't tell it was ever repaired unless you know where to look.

Again, it wasn't so much about the resale value of the piece but rather just one that was well loved.

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RE: Help! - I just broke an antique vase... - 11/10/2006 9:40:36 PM

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I encounter this problem sometime too when I slip in antique shops. My friend have glue what we use to fix in this case.

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