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Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:01:54 PM   
ownedjulia


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Status: offline 		Just a general thought i had that i'd like to pass out to folks here and get some opinions on.

I've had several Doms ask me if i want to leave my Master or ask me what would TEMPT me away from him.

Generally i have told them that unless he tells me to i am staying right where i am.

If i was EASY to steal away, Why would another Master want me? Should a slave not have loyalty and integrity to her owner? A slave that can be taken without her Master's permission has no loyalty or integrity and is thus unworthy of the title slave.

any thoughts?




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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:06:44 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		The Doms that try that are prolly looking for an easy lay/wank.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:13:32 PM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		If you are "owned" some see it as proof that you are somehow worthy because another has taken a chance on you.  Some men are pigs, why would you expect some Dom/Masters to be any different?

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:19:01 PM   
toservez


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Status: offline 		Morals are morals and this life is not special. Stealing a slave is the same as cheating on a significant other in the "regular" world. To me it is disgusting and would not trust or care for a person who would try that. It happens this life has no such special rules and codes imbedded into our brains. But I also do not believe in the must get Masters permission to leave/release concept. It is consensual non consensual.

I agree with you though ownedjulia why would someone want a slave who do that but also who would want a Master who would try to do that? They would deserve themselves.

One cavaet, and I do not condone this and fine this very wrong and barely, if that, less horrible then what was described, but like in real life some people cannot handle being by themselves and sometimes set up there next relationship before leaving the current one. Then I do not think it is stealing as much as scummy and lazy.


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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:19:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		And it's not as if every submissive/slave in a relationship out there is honorable or respectable either.  They might make a great match.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:20:48 PM   
ExtremeOwnerIL


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Status: offline 		Interestingly, this happens in reverse as well, a submissive or slave will attempt to prove how much better he or she is than one's current property. I can speak from personal experience, having been with a friend over a weekend as he hosted a visiting submissive and she strove to "prove" she was better for him than his current slave. He didn't see/care about it, and it proved very toxic for his ownership of his current slave.

It speaks very much about the character of someone, whether Dominant or submissive, if they seek to steal someone away.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:25:15 PM   
MistressTheaZ


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Benji is spot on, and though it seems too simple, those who are interested in 'poaching' someone else's possession show their lack of interest in a 'real' relationship. They don't want to do the work to find the right person, to develop a friendship and relationship, to build trust and establish something meaningful and lasting.

They want instant gratification - to steal someone else's gem - and skip over all that work required within that 'getting-to-know-you' stage and jump right to the fun stuff. As for why they feel you would fall for it? Outside of their own entitlement complex, most probably view it as a numbers game - if they write and court x number of subs, one surely will end up responding sooner or later.

Perhaps some of it is also that when someone is unavailable and belongs to another, they do have a certain unattainable quality that makes them 'more' attractive, validated by the fact someone else has claimed them.

This happens even on the Dominant side of the fence. When I had My profile marked as 'not seeking' due to having a favorite playmate, I received note after note asking just how pleased I was with him and if I would consider giving them a chance temporarily to see if we would click better than My current choice. *makes face*

Delete, ignore or block. Do not let it concern you.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:25:59 PM   
SlaveAkasha


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExtremeOwnerIL

Interestingly, this happens in reverse as well, a submissive or slave will attempt to prove how much better he or she is than one's current property. I can speak from personal experience, having been with a friend over a weekend as he hosted a visiting submissive and she strove to "prove" she was better for him than his current slave. He didn't see/care about it, and it proved very toxic for his ownership of his current slave.

It speaks very much about the character of someone, whether Dominant or submissive, if they seek to steal someone away.

Regards,
EO



But, I am better..dammit..
 
This happens all the time, somehow they can change me from being with Master, to being with them.  I just take it as a compliment that they think I am worth trying for and go on..lol
 
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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:26:18 PM   
DiannaVesta


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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:33:37 PM   
Wildfleurs


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedjulia

Just a general thought i had that i'd like to pass out to folks here and get some opinions on.

I've had several Doms ask me if i want to leave my Master or ask me what would TEMPT me away from him.

Generally i have told them that unless he tells me to i am staying right where i am.

If i was EASY to steal away, Why would another Master want me? Should a slave not have loyalty and integrity to her owner? A slave that can be taken without her Master's permission has no loyalty or integrity and is thus unworthy of the title slave.

any thoughts?



In many ways I agree, on the other hand a lot of people seem to have conquering fetishes.  Once they've conquered someone then they are satisfied and move onto the next person.

I haven't had many people actively come onto me and try to take me away from my owner.  I've had a few random "just checking to make sure you are owned" type emails, which I just find really funny and pathetic and a couple of weird instances in real life of people who knew I was owned come onto me (more so early on into the ownership than nowadays).  I'm exceedingly loyal so I just find it all silly, but I do think that if I were easily won over by someone else then it would say a lot about my own loyalty and sense of committment.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:36:24 PM   
ExSteelAgain


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedjulia

Just a general thought i had that i'd like to pass out to folks here and get some opinions on.

I've had several Doms ask me if i want to leave my Master or ask me what would TEMPT me away from him.

Generally i have told them that unless he tells me to i am staying right where i am.

If i was EASY to steal away, Why would another Master want me? Should a slave not have loyalty and integrity to her owner? A slave that can be taken without her Master's permission has no loyalty or integrity and is thus unworthy of the title slave.

any thoughts?


You sound very worthy to me.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:39:57 PM   
desoutter


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Status: offline 		survival of the fittest...
why would a sub stay with a weaker Dom...

I kid because I love - someone said it earlier
quote:

Some men are pigs, why would you expect some Dom/Masters to be any different
How true...

Dom/sub is a relationship as with any other - I dont try to pick up a strangers wife.... although some men do...
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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:45:30 PM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		Picking up another man's wife is easy.  It's marrying her that's tough.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:56:03 PM   
casaluna


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Status: offline 		While I agree with everyones responses, (even DiannaV's to some degree) there is another possibility.

Perhaps some of these 'raider' doms have been testing your loyalty at your Masters behest.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 12:58:00 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Perhaps some of these 'raider' doms have been testing your loyalty at your Masters behest.

I'd say he's a pretty insecure master then.  "Testing" relationships isn't how you go about securing them.  Time and life spent together will be more than test enough and creating something artificial will BREED insecurity if it does not already exist between the people in the relationship.

Testing means you aren't secure.  I want a master who can directly deal with his issues- not play games and drag other people into the situation.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 1:09:54 PM   
casaluna


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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: casaluna
Perhaps some of these 'raider' doms have been testing your loyalty at your Masters behest.

I'd say he's a pretty insecure master then. ...


I agree that 'testing' would indicate insecurity and not be helpful to any relationship.  Still, it's a possible answer to the question.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 1:12:38 PM   
mnottertail


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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 1:36:26 PM   
juliaoceania


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quote:

If i was EASY to steal away, Why would another Master want me?
 
Because your pics on profile are attractive and they want an attractive woman to play with

quote:

Should a slave not have loyalty and integrity to her owner?

 
People should have integrity, what they label themselves is somewhat unimportant in the whole honesty and keeping your word thing. I kept my words before I was a submissive, that designation has not changed my inner being in regard to my loyalty

quote:

A slave that can be taken without her Master's permission has no loyalty or integrity and is thus unworthy of the title slave.

 
People who act this way are disloyal and unworthy of the relationship they are in... orientation aside.

quote:

any thoughts?

 
Yes, I think that dishonesty and disloyalty are beneath anyone, and you cannot steal a submissive/slave type person that truly never belonged to another...But Ds orientation does not change who people are.



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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 1:40:27 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Old truism my Step father told me when I was a teen.

"You can't steal a girl who won't be stolen"

They will either allow temselves to be stolen or they will rebuff the advance.
Personally I've found it to be fairly true, and the dea that if I stole her she could be stolen from me always kept me from even trying to steal anyone form someone else.

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RE: Stealing another Master's Slave - 10/31/2006 1:41:03 PM   
ownedjulia


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

quote:

ORIGINAL: casaluna
Perhaps some of these 'raider' doms have been testing your loyalty at your Masters behest.

I'd say he's a pretty insecure master then.  "Testing" relationships isn't how you go about securing them.  Time and life spent together will be more than test enough and creating something artificial will BREED insecurity if it does not already exist between the people in the relationship.

Testing means you aren't secure.  I want a master who can directly deal with his issues- not play games and drag other people into the situation.


There I agree. After some ups and downs in our relationship He knows i am loyal and would not test me like this. If he wants me with someone else he just bloody well TELLS me he does.



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