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maybemaybenot -> Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 4:11:24 PM)

Got your attention, didn't I ? This is non " paddlish" news, off topic, but from the my home town.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=162844

So the powers that be have banned Tag from being played at recess. Is it me, or are we so far removed from any sense of reality that we now must stop rugrats from being rugrats ?

Back in the day, when I was in grade school, circa 1960's, I played tag, dodgeball, climbed the money bars and Jungle Jim and plenty of other " treacherous" games.  I fell, I scraped my knees, I cut my lip, I got bonked in the head by the dodgeball more than once.
But most of all I had fun.
At my neices school in a nearby town they have banned running, skipping and jumping on the playground.  The rugrats were told that these are very dangerous activities and can hurt them.

I thought the purpose of recess was to let the rugrats run off some energy, because they had shorter attention spans and needed a break in learning to keep them in focus. We have a generation of severly overweight kids, increasing numbers of young folks having diabetes and other health problems related to overeating and inactivity. So we have an educational system that offers fast food/junk food to the rugrats on their lunch program and in addition, stop them from burning any of this off by keeping them " safe from harm". Who the hell are these intellectual geniouses and what do they really think they are accomplishing? Pretty soon, recess will be turned into sending the rugrats to the school library and having them spend 20 minutes playing gameboy or some other little box game all alone. Hell why stop with tag, why not only allow the rugrats to walk in a supervised circle around the playground silently. Of course we would have to have shoe lace monitors, so that the rugrats wouldn't accidently trip and cause a collision course for the other rugrats. Rugrats tend to be a bit mean and this would also eliminate any potential bullying as well.  I'm not in favor of bullying, the point is have any of the * educators" ever heard of  normal human growth and developement ? When I was in college to be an educator it was a required course.

God, I'm glad I am not growing up now. I'll take the scrapes, slips and falls and a some teasing from the other kids over this fantasy world being created today. I'm also glad I abandoned my teaching career and chose nursing. This is really very sad to me, I love rugrats and I hate the idea of robbing them of the short time they have to just be rugrats and do the things they have always done.

                                             mbmbn




KatyLied -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 4:25:53 PM)

Oh, this is sad.  What are they afraid of?  A kid may fall and knock out a tooth, or break and arm or get a scrape - normal childhood stuff.  Or evern worse, your kid may not be the best player on the team, horrors! 

Back in the day at my school, we played a lot of kickball and red rover, both of those games were not without some risk, especially red rover, some of those boys were really tough.   




JustaDom -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 4:47:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot
Anyone remember  * Paddleboro * ?


Yes.  Some of  the few good things about it is that we as a community raised $10,000 more than the total legal expenses and had an absolutely huge Fetish Fair Fleamarket that time around.  I think that number was around 4,200 people and it was a great time.

As for your post, I think part of the problem is an over-reaction to school violence and possible legal issues.  The worst of it though, is a lack of parenting.  Set the bar a little higher for yourselves, folks.

If I ever have kids, I am going to find a way to send them to private school -- and tip the teachers.  We don't pay them nearly enough for what we ask of them.  Raise our next generations for us, by yourselves, with no real authority over them but take all of our abandoned responsibility.

Joe

quote:

ORIGINAL: William Shakespeare

   "O wonder!
   How many goodly creatures are there here!
   How beautious mankind is!
   O brave new world,
   That has such people in't!"




maybemaybenot -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 5:33:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JustaDom

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot
Anyone remember  * Paddleboro * ?


Yes.  Some of  the few good things about it is that we as a community raised $10,000 more than the total legal expenses and had an absolutely huge Fetish Fair Fleamarket that time around.  I think that number was around 4,200 people and it was a great time.

Imagine my surprise when I woke up to the news on local radio, only to find out I lived about 6 blocks away and never knew a thing about it. I will say tho, the DA did not get alot of support from the local neighborhood/community. The concensus was... let it go.. who the hell cares


As for your post, I think part of the problem is an over-reaction to school violence and possible legal issues.  The worst of it though, is a lack of parenting.  Set the bar a little higher for yourselves, folks.

A great majority of the parents are opposed to this restriction. I'm not really sure how poor parenting plays into absolute lunacy on the part of the school system. There was no parental input on this one, so I guess I don't really follow what you are saying.

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maybemaybenot -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 5:37:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Oh, this is sad.  What are they afraid of?  .   


I dunno Katy. But it is pretty sad and a sad comment on where we are heading in the name of ....
hell I don't even know what this is suppose to be promoting in the youth.

                 mbmbn




Areflectionofyou -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 5:38:27 PM)

my friend owned the club




Noah -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 6:11:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

Got your attention, didn't I ? This is non " paddlish" news, off topic, but from the my home town.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=162844

So the powers that be have banned Tag from being played at recess. Is it me, or are we so far removed from any sense of reality that we now must stop rugrats from being rugrats ?



I don't think that one knucklehead in Attleboro should be considered "the powers that be". I'm pretty sure the sky isn't actually falling.

I send my kids to public school specifically to keep them away from the children of people who would send their kids to private school and then tip the teachers besides.

If you don't like your schools, get involved and improve them. What are you doing this week that is more important than this?

Don't cut and run!







LotusSong -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 6:15:35 PM)

Yes! I saw this tonight and was greatly saddened by it.  I think we are looking at terribly unsocialized kids in the future.
 
I also heard awhile back, that due to  the obesity in the children, that this is the first generation where the children most likely will NOT outlive their parents. 
 




maybemaybenot -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 6:24:48 PM)

Well, I guess I am not the only one who sees a dangerous trend being set.
I was just browsing Washinton Post and found this

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/2006/10/recess_restrictions.html

Lotus... I couldn't agree more. I believe half of the social ills our young folks have today is a direct result of the dwindeling live interaction/discussion with other human beings.

                       mbmbn






amaidiamond -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 6:32:07 PM)

In my mind thats madness, total madness, I remember playing british bulldog for hours, grandmothers footsteps, stuck in the mud and all sorts of other games, I also fell down, bumped my head, got cuts, bruises, ruined a far few school shirts but it was fun!
God I'm glad i'm not at school now




marieToo -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 6:47:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

Got your attention, didn't I ? This is non " paddlish" news, off topic, but from the my home town.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=162844

So the powers that be have banned Tag from being played at recess. Is it me, or are we so far removed from any sense of reality that we now must stop rugrats from being rugrats ?

Back in the day, when I was in grade school, circa 1960's, I played tag, dodgeball, climbed the money bars and Jungle Jim and plenty of other " treacherous" games.  I fell, I scraped my knees, I cut my lip, I got bonked in the head by the dodgeball more than once.
But most of all I had fun.
At my neices school in a nearby town they have banned running, skipping and jumping on the playground.  The rugrats were told that these are very dangerous activities and can hurt them.

I thought the purpose of recess was to let the rugrats run off some energy, because they had shorter attention spans and needed a break in learning to keep them in focus. We have a generation of severly overweight kids, increasing numbers of young folks having diabetes and other health problems related to overeating and inactivity. So we have an educational system that offers fast food/junk food to the rugrats on their lunch program and in addition, stop them from burning any of this off by keeping them " safe from harm". Who the hell are these intellectual geniouses and what do they really think they are accomplishing? Pretty soon, recess will be turned into sending the rugrats to the school library and having them spend 20 minutes playing gameboy or some other little box game all alone. Hell why stop with tag, why not only allow the rugrats to walk in a supervised circle around the playground silently. Of course we would have to have shoe lace monitors, so that the rugrats wouldn't accidently trip and cause a collision course for the other rugrats. Rugrats tend to be a bit mean and this would also eliminate any potential bullying as well.  I'm not in favor of bullying, the point is have any of the * educators" ever heard of  normal human growth and developement ? When I was in college to be an educator it was a required course.

God, I'm glad I am not growing up now. I'll take the scrapes, slips and falls and a some teasing from the other kids over this fantasy world being created today. I'm also glad I abandoned my teaching career and chose nursing. This is really very sad to me, I love rugrats and I hate the idea of robbing them of the short time they have to just be rugrats and do the things they have always done.

                                            mbmbn


I dont think kids are being robbed of anything, including "human growth".  And certainly no one is overweight because they're being denied the opportunity to play what amounts to a contact game (tag) during recess.  Kids are brutal.  Some of them will take any opportunity to 'bully' other kids.   Sad but true.  And the school probably doesnt want to be liable for an injury etc.

We have phys. ed in public schools and sports teams they can join, or a track they can run etc etc   There are plenty of opportunities for children of all ages to get their energy out in a multitude of ways without engaging in contact sports or games.  




UtopianRanger -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 7:29:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

Got your attention, didn't I ? This is non " paddlish" news, off topic, but from the my home town.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=162844


Your call to attention of such nonsense reminds me of one of Limbaugh's many parodies that thoroughly chastises the whole non-competitive element of society. I'm with Limbaugh on this one.



 - R




Noah -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 7:43:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: marieToo

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We have phys. ed in public schools and sports teams they can join, or a track they can run etc etc   There are plenty of opportunities for children of all ages to get their energy out in a multitude of ways without engaging in contact sports or games.  


Yeah. But some places have those darned child labor laws.

The main thing is that we teach them that ALL TOUCHING IS WRONG.

"Games"! For children! Can you imagine?




Celeste43 -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 8:46:24 PM)

Here we've just rebuilt the playgrounds to make them safer. Thick mulch under the jungle gyms, rubber mats at the bottom of the slide. And things made out of that plastic/wood mix which won't splinter or rust. Of course it's cheaper to ban movement than to fix problems.




Lashra -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 9:14:16 PM)

The schools are afraid of being held liable if a child gets hurt while playing. At least that is what the news said. I thought it was kind of bizarre, its almost placing children into a protective bubble. They will start to be afraid of everything because they've been so overly protected. Yes take care of the kids, but for goodness sakes let them BE kids.

~Lashra




maybemaybenot -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 9:17:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

We have phys. ed in public schools and sports teams they can join, or a track they can run etc etc   There are plenty of opportunities for children of all ages to get their energy out in a multitude of ways without engaging in contact sports or games.  


I am guessing you arer opposed to hide and seek, pinky or thumb wrestling, Duck Duck Goose, kick the can, Twister, Red Rover, Red Rover  also, since they all involve touching, contact ot someone being " it".?

Agreed there are other ways of getting energy out, but why can't a rugrat who wants to play Tag or any other normal playground game not do so ? In my day some kids played Tag, others played marbles, some played dodgeball, some played jump rope. No one was forced into a recess game. you played the game you wanted, with others who wanted to play the game. I just fail to see the harm in that.

Bullies existed in my day too. My parents taught me not to be a bully and to tell the teacher if someone was being a bully to me or to another kid. Generally tho, I was a mouthy little girl and could put a bully in their place quite quickly.

As for track and other organized sports. I don't know where you live, but here in Mass, there are no elementary school track teams or football teams or anything else. That happens in Jr High and up.

                      mbmbn




marieToo -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 10:30:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

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ORIGINAL: marieToo

We have phys. ed in public schools and sports teams they can join, or a track they can run etc etc   There are plenty of opportunities for children of all ages to get their energy out in a multitude of ways without engaging in contact sports or games.  


I am guessing you arer opposed to hide and seek, pinky or thumb wrestling, Duck Duck Goose, kick the can, Twister, Red Rover, Red Rover  also, since they all involve touching, contact ot someone being " it".?

Agreed there are other ways of getting energy out, but why can't a rugrat who wants to play Tag or any other normal playground game not do so ? In my day some kids played Tag, others played marbles, some played dodgeball, some played jump rope. No one was forced into a recess game. you played the game you wanted, with others who wanted to play the game. I just fail to see the harm in that.

Bullies existed in my day too. My parents taught me not to be a bully and to tell the teacher if someone was being a bully to me or to another kid. Generally tho, I was a mouthy little girl and could put a bully in their place quite quickly.

As for track and other organized sports. I don't know where you live, but here in Mass, there are no elementary school track teams or football teams or anything else. That happens in Jr High and up.

                     mbmbn


I live in Northern Jersey;  Bergen county.  We have track in our town from 7th grade.  In grammar school, we have organized sports starting in kindergarten with T-ball and softball after that.  And there's gym class of course.  And our kids, in grammar school play on the school playground during lunch recess and after school as well.  The kids organize casual games like kick ball and things like that.  Some climb monkey bars, play on the swings etc. Then in middle school and high school there are a ton more organized sports teams to choose from.

Im not opposed to schools banning "games" or sports that make it necessary for the kids to knock into one another, or things that would encourage the bully types to hurt smaller kids.  Kids get excited when involved in sporting activites and they don't "tag" each other, they bash each other around, and the school probably doesn't want the liability.  Its possible that where this was banned, there has been an incident where it caused a problem.  I dont know. I just really dont see it as being detrimental to anyone's growth when there are SO many other physical activities that are permitted and encouraged.  Its probably more a safety precaution than anything else.  I dont think children in public schools are being held back in any way or discouraged to be kids or to do what kids do just because certain contact sports aren't permitted on school grounds.  I can't even imagine that 'no more tag' at school is going to have any affect at all on a single kid. 




marieToo -> RE: Anyone remember * Paddleboro * ? (10/18/2006 10:33:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Celeste43

. Of course it's cheaper to ban movement than to fix problems.


They didn't ban movement.  They banned a particular physical contact activity.




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