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Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 6:50:15 AM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		Nothing amazes me more that our justice system.  Here are two situations:

Remember the teacher (LaFey was it?)  that  was convicted of  for having sex with the 14 year old boy?  She was NOT sent to prison, but placed on house arrest.  Why?  "Because she was too pretty to go to prison"

The other is a man of 5'- again a child molester who was convicted but NOT sent to prison "because he was too short and wouldn't survive".

The ONLY thing I will ever quote from Glen Beck is "These things make blood squirt out of my eyes!"

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 7:53:40 AM   
JerseyKrissi72


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Status: offline 		I wonder if the justice system realizes that when a child is violated they NEVER recover. I am an adult survivor of child abuse and I thank God for my church, counseling services and good friends that make it possible for me to live a normal life but the nightmares NEVER go away...When you violate a child in fact you are KILLING them, stripping them of the chance to live a normal life....In my opinion child molestors should be killed. They can not be rehabilitated, in my eyes.

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 8:01:58 AM   
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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 8:51:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Take heart, the US has the largest prison population in the "free" world.

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 9:59:32 AM   
ToGiveDivine


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Status: offline 		Lotus,

Just think - you are a short, pretty female - you can do ANYTHING you want and get away with it ;-D

Have I mentioned how much I LUV you and I think you're awesome!??!!?

(Just buying insurance here ROFL)

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 10:02:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		"if it aint worth the time, then dont do the crime" and "dont do the crime, if you cant do the time", spring to mind.

Its simply not relevant, how someone looks or whether they'll be able to survive prison. Crikey - if I did an armed robbery and was sentenced (as I should be in such a circumstance) to 15 years in gaol, then its my lookout, surely? That I'd be sent to a male prison, looking like a female, would my lookout too. I'd be real popular in there - put in the protected zone, out of the way of the main population, along with the child abusers, rapists and so on. But that would my lookout.

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 10:34:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most people that are gaoled are not a danger to society and 'dangerous' should be the criteria for putting someone away. The only thing gaol does is make petty criminals into heavy criminals. Britain puts more people away than anyone else in western Europe, putting people away is a cultural thing and not a necessary thing. One in three British adult men have criminal records, that is because Britain has more criminal lawa than other countries not because Britain has more deviants.

When I worked in the probation service I've known petty criminals be put in prison that have come out drug addicts and started real criminal lives on their graduation. British criminal policy IS CRIMINAL and self defeating.

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 10:37:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

Lotus,

Just think - you are a short, pretty female - you can do ANYTHING you want and get away with it ;-D

Have I mentioned how much I LUV you and I think you're awesome!??!!?

(Just buying insurance here ROFL)


awwww kiss kiss (I'll meet you behind the barn later..)

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 10:50:07 AM   
JerseyKrissi72


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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 11:23:31 AM   
swtsouthernsub


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Status: offline 		personally i feel we need to go back to the western days,

you steal get caught you get hung .

you kill you get killed

prisons certainly wouldnt be over crowed then.

just my 2 cent

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 4:21:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

I wonder if the justice system realizes that when a child is violated they NEVER recover. I am an adult survivor of child abuse and I thank God for my church, counseling services and good friends that make it possible for me to live a normal life but the nightmares NEVER go away...When you violate a child in fact you are KILLING them, stripping them of the chance to live a normal life....In my opinion child molestors should be killed. They can not be rehabilitated, in my eyes.


Wrong. Some do, some don't.

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 7:09:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

I wonder if the justice system realizes that when a child is violated they NEVER recover.

While I am truly sorry for your experience, I have to disagree with the above statement.  Some do.

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RE: Crime and Punishment - 10/13/2006 11:28:46 PM   
seeksfemslave


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Status: offline 		A heavily edited comment from meatcleaver

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.... The only thing gaol does is make petty criminals into heavy criminals. Britain puts more people away than anyone else in western Europe, putting people away is a cultural thing and not a necessary thing.....


Now then Mr MC as Mrs Thatcher is alleged to have said to G Bush snr...Dont go all wibbly wobbly Liberal on me....She was talking about Iraq/Kuwait situation not Liberals....but still the quote fits.

These innocent young things that get sent to prison when say they are 21 have most probably been committing crimes since they were 12/15 or so.
If they had been punished earlier by being incarcerated in a hard labour situation and  then given some support on release, I think there would be much less crime and therefore fewer people in prison.

Changing the totally hypercritical laws on drug trading/consumption would also help !

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