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LotusSong -> BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 9:00:13 AM)

OK.. I have had it reading things saying "there isn't anything in My area to go to". 
 
Assuming you are not the ONLY newby, submissive or Dominant person in your area.. why not stop whining and get things going on your own?  How hard it is it to pick out a restaurant, pick a date, post it in the forum as an activity and show up????   
 
You may be the only person first time out.. hold it again!  You will be there for a supper or something anyhow.  The first time is usually a bust or only one person might show.  Consistency is the key.  If you are known to be having a munch at a specific place at a specific time during them on it, people can count on it.
 
The "you hold it, I'll be there " is just not productive. 
 
Someone has to get the ball rolling.  Don't expect SomeBody Else to  do it.  If you have a need .. DO something..chances are you are not the only one! 
 
Now you whiners can get off your keesters and DO something.




juliaoceania -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 9:11:04 AM)

I agree, it is way more productive to solve a problem then to whine about one. I can't whine, there is a great group local to me, I am just not much of a "joiner"[:D]. I would prefer to only involve myself with socializing in the lifestyle with my Daddy at this point anyways... but I have never been able to whine at all about the group here... having talked to several of them, they seem like first rate sorta folks




LaTigresse -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 9:14:59 AM)

I have seen my neighbours......I prefer to remain oblivious to their "behind closed doors" activities. 




ToGiveDivine -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 11:17:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

OK.. I have had it reading things saying "there isn't anything in My area to go to". 
 
Assuming you are not the ONLY newby, submissive or Dominant person in your area.. why not stop whining and get things going on your own?  How hard it is it to pick out a restaurant, pick a date, post it in the forum as an activity and show up????   
 
You may be the only person first time out.. hold it again!  You will be there for a supper or something anyhow.  The first time is usually a bust or only one person might show.  Consistency is the key.  If you are known to be having a munch at a specific place at a specific time during them on it, people can count on it.
 
The "you hold it, I'll be there " is just not productive. 
 
Someone has to get the ball rolling.  Don't expect SomeBody Else to  do it.  If you have a need .. DO something..chances are you are not the only one! 
 
Now you whiners can get off your keesters and DO something.



I'm a sub-wannabe, I'm not allowed to start things on my own without permission!!!


Ha-ha - just another loophole for you to squish  ;-D




LotusSong -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 11:29:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

Ha-ha - just another loophole for you to squish  ;-D


And I shall.  If you are looking for a partner.. if you are wanting to get into BDSM.. you have to give of yourself.  If you have someone telling you not to....then evidently they know you better than we do :)
 
If you are without a venue for BDSM.. you have no one to blame but yourself.  The great BDSM God is not going to smile on you.




ToGiveDivine -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 11:31:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

Ha-ha - just another loophole for you to squish  ;-D


And I shall.  If you are looking for a partner.. if you are wanting to get into BDSM.. you have to give of yourself.  If you have someone telling you not to....then evidently they know you better than we do :)
 
If you are without a venue for BDSM.. you have no one to blame but yourself.  The great BDSM God is not going to smile on you.


I was being sarcastic (and attempting humor) with my post - but you do raise a good point




LotusSong -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 12:20:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

quote:

ORIGINAL: LotusSong

quote:

ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

Ha-ha - just another loophole for you to squish  ;-D


And I shall.  If you are looking for a partner.. if you are wanting to get into BDSM.. you have to give of yourself.  If you have someone telling you not to....then evidently they know you better than we do :)  <--- NOTE THE SMILEY



I was being sarcastic (and attempting humor) with my post - but you do raise a good point




jesskitty -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 3:08:05 PM)

though i understand where your coming from i have to think of it as this. first off some people are natural born leaders, some aren't. no matter how much you try you can't force a circle into a square hole. if that person lacks skills that are needed to form organizations, keep track of who's who, etc. then starting a group would not be an option for them. i personally just recently became treasuer of a non bdsm-group on campus. i thought since it was small it was going to be easy but there is so much things you need to think,discuss, delegate etc. no matter how big or small a gathering/meetup is.

secondly i'm assuming your refering to the people that are under 21 that say due to the age limit there not able to join. i don't know about you but i'm 19 and i'm a poor college student.  i think most people at 19 did not have a steady income flow and have much extra spending money, i think being under 21 you lack certain funds, etc. to be able to start such possibly.

another option of why even though your argument is vaild, but can also holdup problems of credibility is this reason. as we've discussed and seen many a time, typically people that are 21 and under and not credited/thought of being capable in a leadership role. therefore that might steer some away that a young person is trying to organize, etc. a group.

of course once again i see where your comming from and i to some extent agree..but there are always exceptions to the rule and just wanted to bring up some of my thoughts of why this could not be able to work out.




MASTERRocker -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 3:18:13 PM)

Hello Hon;
I have always been One, Who organised and selected for His 'little ones' in the past; and had little contact with the bigger BDSM crowd here in Kitchener-Waterloo.
At the urging of some new friends - last night I attended my first munch in my area, Approximately 40 or so were there - amd it was a very good cross-section of individuals.
It was actually nice just to sit back - and watch others run the show, so to speak.....
MASTER Rocker




jesskitty -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 4:01:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MASTERRocker

Hello Hon;
I have always been One, Who organised and selected for His 'little ones' in the past; and had little contact with the bigger BDSM crowd here in Kitchener-Waterloo.
At the urging of some new friends - last night I attended my first munch in my area, Approximately 40 or so were there - amd it was a very good cross-section of individuals.
It was actually nice just to sit back - and watch others run the show, so to speak.....
MASTER Rocker

warning, this wil probably most definatly come off as stupid and quite obvious but it's not obvious to me and i have the mindset of if you never ask, you'll never know. and it is better to ask a stupid question that informs you than to assume and remain ignorant.

now, to the actual thought, what does this have to do with what i was discussing? and i am assuming you were refering to me sense it says at the bottom that your response was in reply to my post.




juliaoceania -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 4:06:29 PM)

He was probably using "fast reply".. on the botom of the page... just like I am.. it was not to you at all perhaps




jesskitty -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 4:08:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

He was probably using "fast reply".. on the botom of the page... just like I am.. it was not to you at all perhaps

ah, didn't know about that! most forums i use don't have the fast reply option. learn somethin new everyday. [:)]




LotusSong -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 4:32:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jesskitty

though i understand where your coming from i have to think of it as this. first off some people are natural born leaders, some aren't. no matter how much you try you can't force a circle into a square hole. if that person lacks skills that are needed to form organizations, keep track of who's who, etc. then starting a group would not be an option for them. i personally just recently became treasuer of a non bdsm-group on campus. i thought since it was small it was going to be easy but there is so much things you need to think,discuss, delegate etc. no matter how big or small a gathering/meetup is.

secondly i'm assuming your refering to the people that are under 21 that say due to the age limit there not able to join. i don't know about you but i'm 19 and i'm a poor college student.  i think most people at 19 did not have a steady income flow and have much extra spending money, i think being under 21 you lack certain funds, etc. to be able to start such possibly.


Oh Horse hockey!  A restaurant has no age limit.  These are people with a same interest to come and chat and eat. You don't even have to put out hordoevres!
 
A Munch is not "organizing a group".  It can be.. but on the very basic level of letting people know there is a spot to meet.  It's not a dungeon.. it's just getting the word out that there are others out there.
 
This is the criteria.. :
 
Have you ever eaten in a restaurant?
Do you know what one looks like?
Can you type?
Can you post a message?
Do you think any kinksters on CM in your area will read your post?
Will they be able to read the instructions and tell time?
If posters will leave a message to your post- RSVPing their intent... that would be wonderful because then your next step is easier...
 
Do you know how to use a phone and call the restaurant of your choice?
Good.  Now tell the nice hostess how many people you will be expecting and to reserve a spot.
 
If the answers to the above are YES- check the following:
 
Can YOU tell time?
Do you remember the restaurant you wanted to hold the munch at?
Get Dressed.
Get in your car.  Make sure you have enough gas.
Drive to the restaurant to be there at the appointed time.
Order supper or lunch or whatever meal is appropriate for the time.
Eat.
People will or will not wander in and join you
 
Voila..your first MUNCH!
 




LadyEllen -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 5:48:16 PM)

Ah Lotus! Slight snag!

I had the marvellous idea to start a social in my town - its on CM events somewhere (Worcestershire), so I advertised it, and even my profile basically has only the details for the proposed meet.

So far though, after three months, its basically going to be me, two couples and apparently half the single male population of the county! If the two couples dont manage to turn up, its gonna be me and two dozen guys.......... Even for me, this is a little worrying, for reasons other than how daft it would be - but I shudder to think of the dangers of some young Lady starting a meet like this, and ending up with anything from one weirdo guy to two dozen weirdo guys as her company for the night. I dont think I need say more, (but I will, as usual).

And guys please - I KNOW you're not all weirdos, but it occurs to me that those weirdos who are known as weirdos in their area and are thus banned from venues, will not necessarily be known as weirdos or be possible to have identified as weirdos (since if you are starting a group, ergo you dont know the weirdos or know of the people who know who the weirdos are), by said enterprising young Lady, and since they are banned from venues they will be more than pleased to learn of somewhere new where they might not be known, and take full advantage of that to indulge their weirdness with said lone entrepreneuse. Obviously there is weird, and there is weird - not in a "I'm not into that" way, but in the "call the police" way.

Of course normally, said young Lady would be wary of being somewhere alone and wary of what was going on around her - but in this instance as the organiser she maybe wont have a friend to accompany her or have the time and presence of mind to maintain her usual wariness. Naturally its a social setting so not much is going to happen, in front of witnesses, but still a lone young Lady is vulnerable to weirdos.

Young Ladies please - ignore Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Unless you are a special forces unarmed combat trainer, you are not going to be able to do a great deal if some weirdo decides youre his next victim, apart from scream and run (they expect a kick to the nuts by the way, so go for the shin if you have to, as that really hurts and you can then run better than him). The plain fact of nature is, the average guy is just much bigger and much stronger than you. Dont get into the sort of situation you might regret.

I wouldnt want to frighten anyone with this sort of stuff, but I think its important to take this sort of thing into account if youre female and you start some sort of meet. Be very careful. Do what you would do for any normal date, and check out the people who show interest - converse with them a little, before they get details of a venue and time - only give them these details if you are fairly sure they are sane, balanced people. And remember, if youre female and you advertise this sort of meet - then just as if you have a female profile on CM you get bombarded with emales, as a female organiser you are going to get the same response - mainly from males.

E

PS - anyone who has messaged me regarding the Worcs meet, its coming dont worry! Those who have had a response - yes, you're invited as you seemed (at least so far!) sane and balanced. Those who have not had a response, well, sorry but I cant take chances.




LotusSong -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/5/2006 7:44:40 PM)

Where do you hold your munches?  These here are in open public commercial eateries.  You can always do the buddy system and take a friend or two with you if you feel the need.
 
There will always be wackos out there.  You just have to use common sense.







LadyEllen -> RE: BDSM Opportunities (a RANT) (10/6/2006 4:04:32 AM)

Hi LS

Of course. This will be in a pub/restaurant to start with, so there will be plenty of witnesses to any problems.

The real problems are, that one will never know which one is the weirdo, that weirdos are generally good at camoflaging themselves until the right moment, and that simply the fact that one has to start a meet like this would suggest one has no scene friends with whom to attend. One could take anyone along of course, but that risks outting you to your escort when the talk inevitably turns to the one common activity of those attending and for which the meet was arranged in the first place.

E




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