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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 4:32:37 AM

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I think I am right in saying that deja vu has been rationally explained and I think (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) it is when we physically see something before we are conscious of seeing it, therefore it arrives in our consciousness as a memory.

Time I don't think has been explained but we have to remember we only see and are conscious of what our senses are sensitive too so we are only aware of edited highlights of the universe in which we live so it might not exist beyond our own experience.

If the universe is infinite then there are infinite possibilities and we could have infinite lives and experienced infinite events, I suppose in that scenario we are an infinite event.

I suppose I could also be talking infinite bollocks. Its fascinating to ponder such things but it doesn't really take us anywhere or allow us to form conclusions.

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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 5:36:32 AM

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MC - isnt that the beauty of threads like these? We can all talk infinite bollocks and never form a conclusion! LOL

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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 7:25:50 AM

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my own experience suggests to me that time itself is an illusion and as a result of that, everything that is, exists in the same moment, but this is something we do not experience because we see ourselves as separate from everything that is.

To the divine, being 'outside' of time, everything that is, indeed exists in the same eternal 'moment'.

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The same experience suggests to me that rebirth is real, and that rebirth into any time and place is possible

Indeed, mythology is quite clear: rebirth does happen. However, there is also a suggestion concerning evaluation of worthiness, with being discarded and lost to oblivion as a consequence if not worthy.

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, but that the people we are now are unique combinations of elemental "soul" aspects that have come from and will go to different combinations when we die.

Quite. My thoughts exactly. Our minds are composed of different, independent parts and if rebirth occurs, those parts may be redistributed and recombined in a new combination with 'foreign' parts.

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This leads to the strange situation that we might recall memories from past lives that have not yet happened in our timeline, where we are now.

Quite. Hypothetically.

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I wonder if anyone has "future memories" like that? Deja vu would not count for this, in the sense that we experience these instance in this life, though they might point to the idea that everything is in the same moment in reality.

I have had few deja view experiences. Usually they strike hard, but fleetingly. Observing and memorizing something before becoming aware of the same, may be one explanation.

There is or was a Dutch author who had memories of majestic buildings in a large city and who wrote about them. After the Berlin wall had fallen he visited the city and then he realized that his memories were about Berlin and that their origin was a visit to Berlin that he and his parents had made in his very early childhood - possibly during or before the second world war.

Memories - whether false or correct - are important, because they define who we are. Other than that - unless the memories are in some way relevant - these are the cards that we have been dealt and those we should play. Never mind the hands that we may have been dealt in hypothetical other lives.

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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 7:28:57 AM

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Rule - I quite agree; its the "here" and "now" that each of us must work through. But still, these weird memories are fascinating. (trust you will understand "weird" in the way I do)
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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 9:01:02 AM

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Lady E said....
seeks - dont try to be clever! With that woolly hat on, the heat cant escape.........

Lady E you may scoff but I'll have you know that wearing that hat I once subjected two voluptuous mature full thighed women to 24 hours of non stop mindless lustful passion....it only ended when the hat fell off and just couldn't continue any more.

I think thats what happened....so it must have......right ?

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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 9:24:51 AM

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seeks - sorry, I just cant imagine you without the woolly hat, though I can imagine you doing almost anything mindlessly.....!

(O luvs ya reerly seeks, o cor think ow o cud av s'much fun if yo wor eere!)

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RE: past lives - 9/20/2006 11:52:48 AM

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A Dudley girl then Lady E ? Did you ever meet Sue lawley ?
I have to return to the monastary soon, Mother Superior is searching for me as I speak !

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