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KatyLied -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 5:07:36 AM)
There are a ton of goofs that send email. My Dom reads everything and he is the "insulter" and blocker. I am too kind and would let kooks go way beyond the time he stops them.

LaTigresse -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 8:39:54 AM)
I am going to say that I just simply cannot respect any material object. Not a collar nor a piece of jewelry. I am just not that into symbolism. Material objects can be destroyed. It is people that I respect or not. In a relationship, it is the people involved and the relationship those people have created that I respect. Much less tangible than any object, yes. However, in my opinion, it should be stronger and more substancial than any material object.

Devilslilsister -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 9:29:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied There are a ton of goofs that send email. My Dom reads everything and he is the "insulter" and blocker. I am too kind and would let kooks go way beyond the time he stops them. LOL - yeah i have one of those. Heck and i thought i was good at tearing apart ppl. I think Mr Rainbow man got blocked because i havent had any emails back = ( Generally, it makes me chuckle and laugh. On the school computers, seeing Mr Rainbow man has email.. just gots to shake my head and giggle. And i'll have you know, i dont insult! I explain in the most polite, matter of fact, educational way why their behavior is unacceptable (on my good days) Tho there are those days that you just need to blow off some steam.......... hmmmmmmmmm interesting how you all see it and i'm trying to match it all up with what i've learned, but its not working! daaaaa dun dun The convo WAS days ago and my memory is shot - but i guess sort of the jist is. Even if you are in a relationship thats falling apart and is crap and neither party of it respects - its respected because it IS a relationship. Kind of like not getting involved with a person who is married. Its like, its like YOUR respect for it, has nothing to do with anyone else. You either have respect for it and show it no matter the circumstances or you dont. hmmmmmmmm

LadyHugs -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 9:43:45 AM)
Dear RiotGirl, Ladies and Gentlemen; Respect is often thrown about by people. Respect for the collar, in my salad days in the lifestyle was not only respect for the union between the Master/Mistress and slave but, also the representation of what the collar meant to the lifestyle in general. It is a ritual, a ceremony as well as a continuation of something started long before I was a thought. The respect for a status of slave was also given, as collars were given when earned so, it wasn't fetish wear but, a hard earned status. In interaction with a Master/Mistress-slave couple, I always ask the Master or Mistress first to approach their slaves, even if I know them for ages. It is a property that I see, that the Master/Mistress controls, so it goes through the permission phase to approach. Some do not practice such protocols. The hit-n-miss practice of protocols really throws the whole community off really, as it is not consistant as well as does not interchange with other circles of the community, per se. I find it rather awkward at times, as there are so many who step outside of old protocols by choice and or by ignorance (not knowing, not taught, not exposed). We've seen the 'Political correctness' invade the community where, whatever goes. Really sad, as it leaves others in an awkward stance on how to show, give and recieve respect when it comes to 'the collar' and or the couple themselves. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs

juliaoceania -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 9:58:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied There are a ton of goofs that send email. My Dom reads everything and he is the "insulter" and blocker. I am too kind and would let kooks go way beyond the time he stops them. I have had very little trouble with kooks for the most part. They email me and I read their drivel and then I do not respond. They only email once I have found for the most part as long as I do not respond. The guy that was referred to earlier in this thread basically kept emailing me, so I thought I would tell him to not email me anymore, and I even said "please" I also told him that if he took exception with my behavior to take it to my Dom. He took me for an "angry" person and politely insulted my intellect, my relationship and even gave a veiled threat that we were not "intelligent enough to deal with him".... really quite weird. At that point he seemingly crossed a line in my book because I do not want to "deal" with him at all, and he lives in an area code nearby one of us..so that concerned me too. Daddy does not read my emails, if he wanted to he certainly has that prerogative...smiles. I try to follow guidelines he sets for me, I do not block people even though he has not expressly forbidden it because I know he does not want me to. I try to decrease drama by not telling him of every Tom, Dick, or Harry that emailed me... even though he would probably be flattered other doms find me appealing...smiles. This was the first time and hopefully only time this occurs.

KatyLied -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 10:19:28 AM)
Oh, I didn't mean that I get tons of email. Just that I know there are goofy guys out there. When they see at the top of a profile that you are obviously not looking, then send a pm that says "Can I have a taste?" That is rude. Even if I was looking, I would find that rude. And I agree, the best thing to do with most of them is to ignore them, they usually go away.

juliaoceania -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 10:30:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Oh, I didn't mean that I get tons of email. Just that I know there are goofy guys out there. When they see at the top of a profile that you are obviously not looking, then send a pm that says "Can I have a taste?" That is rude. Even if I was looking, I would find that rude. And I agree, the best thing to do with most of them is to ignore them, they usually go away. I get this line a lot (in fact it was the first email this person discussed here sent me}"Your daddy is a lucky man", I put his name on my profile figuring that if they really want HIM to know how "lucky" he is they should tell HIM...ha ha... I haven't had one of those "lucky" emails since... I should ask Daddy if anyone has bothered to tell him how "lucky" he is... You are a very attractive lady, and I am sure you get your share of emails...lol

KatyLied -> RE: Respect (9/15/2006 11:00:11 AM)
quote: You are a very attractive lady, and I am sure you get your share of emails...lol Likewise, Julia.

diamonddreamlove -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 3:39:03 AM)
The collar simply represents the committment of the relationship. Like a wedding band it is an announcement to O/others that the relationship is committed. I do not wear a collar now but am exploring with my Dom that possibility. W/we are taking our time with the decisions since W/we both believe that the collar is even more serious than a wedding band. Once offered and accepted O/our belief is that the symbolic collar is never removed. The collar may come in many shapes or colors including invisable but the concept of the committed relationship remains forever between the two of U/us.

Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 3:53:08 AM)
A collar is whatever the wearer believes it to be. A fashion accessorie, a 'wedding ring'. OR anything in the middle. When i see a collar on someone, i respect what my ideal of my own collar is. I am of the thought that i worked damned hard for my collar, i earned it. Therefor, i would give the respect i feel for my own to that sub. They too, must of earned that collar, not a easy thing to do. I would respect that achievement in another. Of course, i could be interacting with someone who is a goth, and its a fashion accessory, and has no meaning of life commitment, that mine reads to me. But better to ere on the side of caution, than to show disrespect. So although ayasha points out its the Master/Mistress that would have respect, id like to say, that i seem to feel mutual respect for the fellow sub/slave. littleone quote: ORIGINAL: ayasha one doesn't respect objects, per se. It is the Master/Mistress that would have the respect

CreoleCook -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 4:21:53 AM)
Now while I realize some people cannot take constructive criticism, even without knowing all the circumstances, I find respect to be something given naturally, and disrespect to be earned. From an analytical viewpoint, respecting the collar, well, It's kind of like religious beliefs. You may believe in God, may have read the texts of other people compiled into a book known as the Bible, you may even pray to a cross... but again, it comes down to Faith. If you have faith in a collar, this means you have faith in the relationship. Now people may say, "Faith is not the same thing as respect." Well, to some folks, there isn't that much difference. Perfect example: I have faith in other people's ability to comprehend smart assed comments, and to see a difference in flirting, and a genuine willingness to open their eyes, and see/hear different perspectives. More often than not, I get burned for it, but I still show the respect, and keep the faith in the human spirit. Another example: The United States flag. Not everybody in the U.S. may respect the flag, but most Americans respect the meaning behind the flag, and have faith in that meaning. So to disagree with half the posts in here so far, from my perspective, Not only does one respect objects, but most of the free world does. And no, there is no difference in a peice of jewelry (a cross, a collar, a ring,) a book, a flag, a statue, a hole in the ground... My 2 cents CC

LaTigresse -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 4:44:07 AM)
I guess it all hinges on your personal definition of respect. Ex: I have no respect for this chair I am sitting in. I could replace it with any one of thousands that would work equally well. The chair means nothing to me, I cannot respect it. Human beings either have or have not, my respect based upon their behaviour, what they either contribute or take. If a person contributes nothing positive, I cannot respect them.....and visa versa. But, ya know........I would be money that subject has been debated until fingertips are numb and still people disagreed, brought out dictionary references of the true meaning of respect yada yada yada........................

eyesopened -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 4:44:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I respect other people's collars as I would other people's wedding rings... it is a symbol of a relationship that exists between people. I would not make a play for that person with a wedding ring and I believe collars should be treated this way also. juliaoceania said what i was thinking. However, i have seen collared couples who show no real respect for their own collaring. i have seen married people not let marriage get in the way of dating. Sometimes i think i have more respect for these symbols than the ones wearing them.

Mavis -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 5:17:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: eyesopened i have seen married people not let marriage get in the way of dating. Sometimes i think i have more respect for these symbols than the ones wearing them. Actually, that's a case of insisting the ones wearing the rings follow your expectations of what marriage is all about. Those who have an agreed open marriage are indeed having respect for their marriage, it's running exactly as they see fit.

eyesopened -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 6:00:44 AM)
Sorry. i wasn't talking about open marriage i was talking about those who cheat and i should have been more specific. i don't insist on anyone doing anything and i have no expectations of others at all. i apologize if i didn't say things correctly.

agirl -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 6:04:22 AM)
I do tend to attach value to objects.....the REASON I received the objects and the motivation behind them give them an emotional content. Pictures, sticks, stones, dried up lavender twigs and heather, a clump of Rudbekia growing in the garden, my wedding ring, my collar.......all bits of history, memories and loaded with meaning. I can readily accept that they are just objects but I have an emotional life with them too and I'm quite at home with the rather overly sentimental aspect of myself.. All rather daft, when I put my pragmatic head on. The collar itself........ it's weighty, I can feel it all the time, it can't be removed easily, I can touch it......somehow I think that's what my Master intended. agirl

Bearlee -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 6:35:35 AM)
<looks over at the little stone on the bookshelf> I don't think it's daft at all, agirl! Some of my favorite plants are favorite only because of where they came from...a friend shared her garden with me.

agirl -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 6:49:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bearlee <looks over at the little stone on the bookshelf> I don't think it's daft at all, agirl! Some of my favorite plants are favorite only because of where they came from...a friend shared her garden with me. Yes......some of the plants in my garden have followed me from home to home at great effort. The house is full of baskets of stones with holes through, that my Master brings me.....each one is paid for with a cane stroke.....I can be delighted and excited with a bag of 50 stones because I know he's searched for them , for me........and also full of trepidation as I know they have to be bought .....lol There's something very bitter-sweet about my Master that I'll never get used to. agirl

Bearlee -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 6:53:08 AM)
awwwwwwwww... You're a lucky girl, agirl!

agirl -> RE: Respect (9/17/2006 7:00:38 AM)
When I'm in the right mood, I think that too..........LOL. Other times, I rue the day I met him. agirl

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