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Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:14:00 PM   
LadyJulieAnn


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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:18:57 PM   
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I wonder if she'll keep the kid?

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:20:40 PM   
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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:21:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess the phrase " your grades have gone to pot " would be appropriate here. 

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:27:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dunno, was he getting straight As and involved in extra-curriculars too?

I'm not against drug usage like that in general, so it's perfectly reasonable as an appropriate form of reward for me.

But my guess is that the family has problems far deeper than minor drug usage.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:35:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		She needs to be beaten with a rubber hose. She's been giving this kid pot since he was 11 years old and doing it with his friends? She's a fucking burnout with not much of a brain left. In my opinion she isn't much of a Mother as she is harming her own child. A mother protects her child not give him things to damage him. I guess when he's older she will give him coke for christmas huh? or maybe heroin for halloween...

I'm not into drug usage, I've seen too many good people destroyed by them.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:48:44 PM   
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I dunno, was he getting straight As and involved in extra-curriculars too?

I'm not against drug usage like that in general, so it's perfectly reasonable as an appropriate form of reward for me.

But my guess is that the family has problems far deeper than minor drug usage.


Regardless of whether someone agrees with the activity, it is very irresponsible to teach an 11-13 year old that it's okay to engage in illegal behavior, to encourage a habit that could harm him at a young age, to have to encourage him to lie to teachers, other family members, etc. about the illegal habit, to engage in illegal, and potentially harmful activity with minors who are not your child, to allow a 13 year old to have friends who are 18, and worst of all.... to do all of these things knowing that it could jeopardize her position and rights as a mother to her son.

I wouldn't think that an  A or extra-curriculars is worth any risk of having your child end up in Foster care until things are straightened out (or you serve time).

Bad move on Mom's part.  It shouldn't be so easy to become a parent.



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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:54:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

I dunno, was he getting straight As and involved in extra-curriculars too?

I'm not against drug usage like that in general, so it's perfectly reasonable as an appropriate form of reward for me.

But my guess is that the family has problems far deeper than minor drug usage.


I'm curious as to how young in age you would consider it as an appropriate reward. 

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:56:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		What I would like to know is how the cops found out in the first place?  Jeez, when I smoked pot I wore pot t-shirts and everything.  EVERYBODY knew I smoked pot.  All the people coming over all the time should have given it away in itself.  Never did I have a problem with the cops.

Wierd.  I guess CPS took her kid away...

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 7:57:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		This story just exemplifies wrongness

On Edit: I am not against pot smoking, but a developing mind does not need to be under the influence of mind altering substances in my opinion and I have heard this is a bad thing from a neurological standpoint.



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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 8:15:19 PM   
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I'm curious as to how young in age you would consider it as an appropriate reward. 

Probably 14 at the earliest. 

Obviously it's not necessary- no one can say "My mom didn't give me pot in high school" as an excuse for not being a mature and successful adult.

But, the idea of pot in itself as a reward isn't something I'd label as automatically bad or wrong.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 8:30:41 PM   
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This story just exemplifies wrongness

On Edit: I am not against pot smoking, but a developing mind does not need to be under the influence of mind altering substances in my opinion and I have heard this is a bad thing from a neurological standpoint.




It is a bad thing.  It destroys brain cells.  In particular, the brain cells responsible for short term memory for one (Mine is shot, but I smoked for 17 years).  It also causes delays in action and response.  It can adversely affect the functions of the neurotransmitters and receptors.  I did learn from a brilliant psychiatrist that your brain is capable of rebuilding those cells, but at an extremely slow rate.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 8:36:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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I'm curious as to how young in age you would consider it as an appropriate reward. 

Probably 14 at the earliest. 

Obviously it's not necessary- no one can say "My mom didn't give me pot in high school" as an excuse for not being a mature and successful adult.

But, the idea of pot in itself as a reward isn't something I'd label as automatically bad or wrong.


How do you feel about providing cigarettes, alcohol, or other drugs as rewards?

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 8:39:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I never smoke pot, by and large I find my mind does not like being altered.

If you smoke pot heavily for years it is going to have a bad outcome for you, moderation in all things. I have a drink now and again... usually two at the very most, but that is not horrifically bad for me...I would feel the same way about pot if I enjoyed it... a joint a couple of times a year isn't going to damage you.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 9:48:13 PM   
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How do you feel about providing cigarettes, alcohol, or other drugs as rewards?

Cigarettes and other drugs I'd say no to.

Alcohol would also be ok, but I'm more of the European mindset- the 21 age law in America is ridiculous.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 10:15:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am opposed to drug (legal or illegal) abuse, alcohol abuse and smoking (by the way I smoke and am looking for a pretty girl with handcuff to help me stop).  These kill people, especially people like me (remember I am ex-military where a clear mind in combat is sorta important). 

I am also stongly opposed to teaching children disrespect for the law.

The only positive I can see is the potential in this particular case for educating the child.  

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 10:36:56 PM   
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The only positive I can see is the potential in this particular case for educating the child.  


If enticing her child to study by offering him drugs was the only way the mother could get her kid to study.... the kid was likely not going to go far in the educational system unless something changed.  Bad parenting, a drug habit, and an apparent lack of desire to achieve aren't too easy to overcome. 

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 10:46:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		While  I strongly agree with you about the wrongness of this whole thing, I would also say that you are passing judgment on this child's ability to achieve when the article stated that the kid was an A student. If you replaced "pot" with "money" as a reward for achieving good grades I wonder if you would have that harsh of an opinion. I think the kid had to have some brains to do that well, perhaps you are right in your assesssment of this kid's motivation level, but not necessarily. I just do not think it is a good idea to dismiss this kid out of hand because he really did nothing wrong, his mother did.



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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 10:51:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		This story points out another stupid thing that many parents seem to want to do these days. They want to be their child's friend. They already have friends. You are their parent. You cannot be both. No matter how hard you try to be cool, you will never be as cool as their friends will be. Smoking pot with your kids doesn't make you cool. It just makes you a sad person. And a bad parent.

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RE: Parent of the Year - 9/12/2006 10:57:25 PM   
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The only positive I can see is the potential in this particular case for educating the child.  


If enticing her child to study by offering him drugs was the only way the mother could get her kid to study.... the kid was likely not going to go far in the educational system unless something changed.  Bad parenting, a drug habit, and an apparent lack of desire to achieve aren't too easy to overcome. 


Oh I whole heartedly agree.   My step daughter pulled my grandkids out of school to babysit their younger siblinhgs so she could go do drugs and other stuff.  Then she refused to allow the kids to go to gym because the teachers were gay - she thought all gym teachers were gay so it wasn't because of one or two teachers.  Of the 4 grandkids in the family only one finally got through HS.

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