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Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 6:00:29 PM   
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Just found this on another forum, pretty damn cool, guess a stick wont do too much will it? I dont have much compassion for anyone who tries to hunt the cats.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 6:45:59 PM   
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Funny thing is, I was just coming here to start a thread about my cat Fred.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 7:29:09 PM   
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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:03:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm just laughing more on how the elephant dident really make much of a movement witht he tiger...kinda makes me think the two animals where in on it.

Tiger "ok dude, i'll be over by ditch you wander over, dont look at me though, when i see you wave your trunk, i'll go for it!"

Elephant "yeah ok, sounds good"

Tiger "but remember this time crouch down a bit, i think i pulled something last time"

Elephant "yeah yeah, fuck you're a moaner"

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:27:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was wondering about that.  The tiger didn't seem the least bit concerned about the elephant.  It was obvious that the tiger wasn't going for the elephant, but can a tiger really be so sure that an elephant will realize that and not stomp the hell out of it?

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:32:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		My guess would be because elephants are so big they dont have to really worry about Tigers hunting them, since Tigers are solitary and dont hunt in groups [like Lions which can occasinaly take down African 'phants] the two animals dont really have much contact with one another.

Another explanation is since its a domesticated elephant they are typically heavily drugged and beaten ect. to remain complacent for the riders. That can account for the lack of reaction for the elephant.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:40:28 PM   
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Elephant: “Hit this MFer with your stick like you do me big man”

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:46:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, we don't really know what reaction the elephant had because the video ends abruptly.  I'm just surprised that a tiger was confident enough to leap up at a man sitting on top of an elephant, as though he knew he didn't have to worry about the elephant.

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My guess would be because elephants are so big they dont have to really worry about Tigers hunting them, since Tigers are solitary and dont hunt in groups [like Lions which can occasinaly take down African 'phants] the two animals dont really have much contact with one another.

Another explanation is since its a domesticated elephant they are typically heavily drugged and beaten ect. to remain complacent for the riders. That can account for the lack of reaction for the elephant.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:56:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I dont think the Tiger had any doubt he could reach the man, theyre one of the strongest animals in the world by size, as superpredators theyre tuned to put all thier focus on a target and all thier power to take it down, hence why it's  mouth was wide open and claws and forelegs out aiming straight for Punjab up there. From the way the video ends though it looks like teh Tiger effectivly was able to be ontop of the elephant with the humans, we can only imagine what happened next, obviously the driver wouldent have been able to survive all that teeth, claw and muscle in one blow.



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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:57:18 PM   
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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 8:58:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I understand all that, but what impresses me is that the tiger seems to have said to himself, "There's a man up there, let's go get him--and who cares that he's riding an elephant?  The elephant won't do anything."  How exactly did the tiger know that the elephant wasn't going to misunderstand what he was trying to do and stomp the tiger all to hell?  Ordinarily tigers don't jump up at elephants, for obvious reasons.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 9:05:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		My guess is that from familiarization with humans, the Tiger would know that the man and the elephant where two different things, and would know the human is the main actual threat, or if this wasent a case of self defense, the weaker of the two targets to go after. If I was a predator and had a choice i'd do the same.

Another thing is that in Tiger hunts the ones on the elephants are the noise makers to flush the cat out, so it could be that the Tiger got spooked enough and simply went after what it percieved as the source of the noise.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 9:39:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ummm...I'll try this one more time and then I'll give up.

I understand why the tiger attacked the man.

I understand that the tiger was not attacking the elephant.

I even understand that the tiger knew the difference between the man and the elephant.

What I don't understand is this: How did the tiger know that the elephant wasn't going to attack him?  If a tiger did that to an elephant, and there WEREN'T some poor guy sitting on the elephant's back, I'm pretty sure the elephant would retaliate.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 9:42:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Okay...my easy answer...the Tiger dident know.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/7/2006 10:30:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't figure out all the answers from what's been given, but here's what the evidence appears to show.

The tiger in this film is a young and presumably inexperienced animal. Elephants have been known to kill tigers, but young carnivores aren't necessarily known for their restraint and wisdom under the best of circumstances.  It's entirely possible that this animal had no experience with elephants.  We don't know whether or not it had any experience with humans, or whether the human was percieved as a novel but appropriately sized prey item on top of an unfamiliar moving object.

Unless they imported the elephant, the location is Asia.  A lot of tiger habitat in Asia is marginalized, making life on the edge pretty tough for young tigers establishing their territories. This animal's body conformation appears to be basically normal wild phenotype, neither remarkably thin nor remarkably plump.  So I'm not sure I would be quick to believe that it was literally starving and desperate.  But it's certainly possible that it was pretty hungry.  Would a young and inexperienced tiger in marginalized habitat do something pretty foolish and risky to get food?   Quite possibly, yes.

We know what the tiger was doing just before it made the rush - it was concealing itself in the tall grass and stalking its target.  We don't know what the humans were doing.  It's entirely possible that this tiger was reacting to being shot, or to some other event that we didn't see.

My big cat experience is fairly minimal, so there isn't enough data here for me to figure out what happened.  Maybe someone with more experience could, but there really doesn't seem to be much to work with here.

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/8/2006 12:26:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Another look at the video with more attention paid to the human makes me wonder if my initial thought about the locality based on what I could see of the elephant's head was off.  There's three subspecies of Asian elephant, and we already know this isn't Africa.  It could however be India. 

Mammal populations in the wild aren't something I know a whole lot about, but as I recall India would seem to be the most statistically likely meeting of wild tiger population and domesticated elephant.  I also don't know nearly enough about tigers to accurately peg its locality by what can be seen in this film.  But there's lots of folks who could.  I'll go ask one of them. 


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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/9/2006 8:01:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		On another link with the same video, this description was posted today (I am NOT saying it is accurate! and the spelling is nick884's, not mine...):

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/180312/tigress_attacks_elephant_and_man/
Here is what happened.
This happened in a wild life sanctuary in india,its called kaziranga.
A tigress had wandered too close to a village and had killed couple of cows..
So the gaurds moved in to relocate the tigress, they found the tigres and took a couple of shots at it(sedatives), unfortunately the tigress which dodged the shots was so pissed that u see what happens in the video ..
what you dont see is the heroics of the elephant which saved 2 lives,sad part is the mahout's (person who rides the elephant, you see clearly the tiger leaping at him. well his hand had to be amputated.) ...
Thing goes like this as the tigress takes a leap pulling down 2 of the ppl on the elephant to the ground . the elephant with its animal instincts tries to take the situation under control by pinning down the tigress as it lands on the ground using the elephants trunks and toes , thus avoiding further attacks by the tigress and saving 3 lives. the entire thing happens in a span of 7 seconds .(Yup thats how fast a tiger is)
by ‎nick884 , 8th September

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RE: Dont F**k with Tigers- Video - 9/9/2006 8:22:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Punjab's elephant was blinded from a previous tiger that missed punjab.... yeah, he thought he had it made... gonna miss ya punjab!

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