MasterJaguar01
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I posted no such thing. I simply pointed out that our Electoral College System is one huge Republican gerrymander because it is.
You post that, while you and your cult is totally okay your anointed leader's dark and mysterious handlers deliberately flooding your blue shit hole censuses with violent criminals from other countries...
The claim that the Electoral College is a "huge Republican gerrymander" is ridiculous, and wrong. "Gerrymandering" is about rigging district lines, not the constitutional system for picking presidents, which gives each state electors based on its overall number of congressional seats. It’s not a partisan conspiracy—it’s a federal compromise from 1787, balancing state and population power. It favors smaller states by design, and everyone agreed that it was the fairest way to do it. Drawing squiggly lines to screw over voters isn't even in the same ballpark.
ok... I admit to taking a bit of liberty with the term but the effects are idenitcal
It is a massive gerrymander (although not in the traditional sense since the lines are already drawn) Republicans get 2.5-3x the voting power of Republicans, because:
There are two types of gerrymandering:
Cracking and Packing
The Electoral College does both
It has several problems
It gives authority to the state legislatures (who gerrymander the hell out of their own states so they can stay in power)
It wayyyyyy over-represents rural states and diminishes the voting power of the population
It doesn't "PROTECT" small population states. It PRIORITIZES them.
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Sure Parliamentary democracies involve a vote by party for the members of Parliament, and Parliament then choose the Prime Minister.
But it is VERY representative.
Each party gets a % of seats it won in the POPULAR vote.
Once the Parliament is seated, it votes for the Prime Minister. And that vote MUST be a majority!
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Pretending that “no civilized country” has a system like ours is lazy and ignorant hyperbole.
Can you name one?
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The U.K.’s first-past-the-post setup often skews results worse than our Electoral College. Parliamentary systems aren’t always proportional - Canada gives seats to whoever wins locally, not based on national vote shares. Picking Prime Ministers is often about who can cobble together enough support, as in Germany circa 1933. The Electoral College has flaws, but calling it a gerrymander is sloppy and ignores how it’s designed to protect the populations in smaller states.
This is a great, articulate point! (It has been years since I have seen anything like that from you!) The first-past-the-post system can indeed result in skewed national results. A candidate can win a plurality by one vote, yet win the seat, thus disenfranchising everyone else in that district.
The Israeli system is BEST. No districts. The parties submit lists of members they want to run for Knesset membership and one for Prime Minister. The people vote directly for the PARTY, not the candidate.
EACH party can fill seats from people on their lists DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL to their POPULAR VOTE.
Once the Knesset is seated, a Prime Minister can be chosen by the Knesset members with a MAJORITY of votes. No majority. No Prime Ministership.
The President (a ceremonial role), works with each candidate and gives them a chance one-by-one to form a mojority coalition.
If no one can, then the Knesset is dismissed and the whole process starts again.
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