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RE: Mastery... active or passive? - 8/24/2006 2:26:25 PM

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I don't think being a passive Master would work. Now, low key might be a better term. I consider myself a low key type of person. I don't yell, I don't threaten, but I make clear that my slave understands who is in charge. And I am always working on ways to teach and guide her to be a better slave. And in doing that it makes me a better Master to her.
I think the worst thing you can do is leave a slave to flounder and wonder what is expected of her. That is being passive in my opinion.

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RE: Mastery... active or passive? - 8/24/2006 2:40:32 PM

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Mastering someone to me means that I have a leadership responsibility above all else. I strive to make my slave a more complete person which will please me. I’ll add here, that in my personal style of domination, we are also going to have fun.

Although, I see much, there are times when I turn a blind eye to things while at other times she may wonder what kind of binoculars I have to have seen something. I slowly take control of her by pointing out behavior that I think is necessary.

Early on I am more lenient with poor behavior because it may take her a while to realize my commitment to her. She may not have realized that something was detrimental to our M/s relationship, but, with proper teaching and motivation, comes to understand. Actually, the time when it is only a D/s relationship is the period when it should be explained how she should behave.

The longer we are together as Master and slave, the more she should be able to pick up on my hints and make them her orders without me having to say anything. After a few months of setting standards, any deceit or disrespect would be a relationship ending matter. That dynamic is always there as is a growing sense of complete happiness as time goes on.

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RE: Mastery... active or passive? - 8/24/2006 4:03:31 PM

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Mastery involves mastering myself; this translates into being able to master another in the way I want. To master them is a process of taking their will and desires and making them aimed at pleasing and obeying me.

I wonder how many "Masters" out there are incapable of mastering themselves – and so try to master others? And make a complete hash of it.

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RE: Mastery... active or passive? - 8/24/2006 4:06:45 PM

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Mastery involves mastering myself; this translates into being able to master another in the way I want. To master them is a process of taking their will and desires and making them aimed at pleasing and obeying me.

I wonder how many "Masters" out there are incapable of mastering themselves – and so try to master others? And make a complete hash of it.

There are 23.

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RE: Mastery... active or passive? - 8/24/2006 4:42:54 PM

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It is something I am, it is who the interaction works between us. It has BOTH passive and active elements within it.

She submitted because she trusts in who I am and how I handle the responcibilitys of owneship. Until the time she no longer trusts in that then she will obey. That is passive.

However My responsibilitys also include taking ACTIVE control when it is needed and I don't shirk that responcibility... that is part of what she trusts in.

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RE: Mastery... active or passive? - 8/24/2006 5:21:12 PM

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i too would have to say somewhat of both.

For a man to Master or Dominate me, He has to know what makes me tick.. know that even though i may appear aggressive, that all it would take is a look, that i would recognize.. (sometimes i can be a little thick headed or distracted and off in my own world) so all it would take is a look or a word to have me shutting up and on my knees. That can be active or passive depending on the situation.

In the beginning, i would think it would NEED to be more active. i would be in a position of learning what it is He expects and wants and needs. He needs to be active in order to teach me that, just as i would most likely need to be actively being submissive. Once i have been trained i believe it would be ABLE to be more passive on His part if He so wishes it to be.. because He wouldn't have to work so hard at training me and would be able to sit back and enjoy the fruits of His (and my) labour.

Then again, given that i've never been in a long-term M/s D/s relationship, i'm guessing more than asserting.

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