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Lucylastic -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 5:56:11 PM)

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Tkman117 -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 6:30:16 PM)

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Jesus Christ Nanji, did you even read what I wrote or are you wilfully blind? I said that even liberals can be one issue voters as well, but the tendency that I've seen in my experience is that cons are more often single issue. Are there multiple issue cons? Of fucking course there are. Get out of your partisan headspace and realize that nothing is so black and white. You criticized me earlier for separating people into groups of us or them so it's easier to demonize, but isn't that exactly what you're doing? If you're going to bitch flip over such a tiny issue and ignore the real point I was trying to make, then fine, go for it. Prove how little you care about the real issue and how important the little things are, how important your identity politics is.

Tell me Nanji, do you believe in holding your reps to a higher standard? Do you believe they should be taking unlimited campaign donations? Do you think they truly have your interest in mind if they're being paid millions by the medical industry? Those are the true issue Nanji, not a small comment about "single issue voting." If it's such a big deal, I'm sorry, I retract my statement. It was inappropriate for the conversation. Now what do you think about the REAL issues?

First off you seem congenitally unable to make a valid non-partisan point so I'm not going to argue with that anymore. Second, my point was all of the lefties ignored your partisan statement and when I copied it almost verbatim they jumped on me. So, my point was made by showing all of the leftie loons, including you, are very narrow sighted.

Then, actually, you make a point you aren't even aware you've made. You say the "real" issues (as if only you and other lefties know the real issues" are money going to elected officials. Which I find hilarious since you lefties want those elected officials to have more power and control while I'm fine if they wither away and die. If you really believed money going to politicians was a problem you'd want to take power from them, as I do. But you don't, you just don't want them to take money from groups who aren't "your" group.


You were the first one to bring issue to the fact that I mentioned something about single issue voting and everyone else jumped on that, so please be an adult and take credit for your own actions.

And you are absolutely fucking wrong about me wanting leftist elected officials who take corporate money to have more power. I DONT. That's why I've been saying all day that these politicians need to be primaried. They need to be replaced with candidates that represent the people, not corporate interests. Project your prejudices all you want, because I do not conform to them. I despise politicians that take copious amounts of money from any special interest groups, both on the right AND the left. I don't want them to take ANY money from anyone who isn't an individual. So your assumptions are full of shit Nanji.




Wayward5oul -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 6:43:00 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.




Nnanji -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 6:58:26 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

Quick...go tattle.




Wayward5oul -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 7:35:03 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

Quick...go tattle.

So you have a problem with pointing out when someone violates TOS? People point it out on here all the time, with good reason. But I guess you have never been one of those, nor have never nor will never feel the need to do so yourself. Bully for you.




Lucylastic -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 7:39:49 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.




tamaka -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 7:48:10 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.



You people are ridiculous. It's okay to attack everyone about anything other than their orientations. Get real.






Wayward5oul -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 8:10:10 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.



You people are ridiculous. It's okay to attack everyone about anything other than their orientations. Get real.




Really? I will have to remember that, then. That could be useful.




tamaka -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 8:19:04 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.



You people are ridiculous. It's okay to attack everyone about anything other than their orientations. Get real.




Really? I will have to remember that, then. That could be useful.


Have you had your head in the sand? This whole site is full of people attacking each other about everything there is to attack people about.




Nnanji -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 9:01:15 PM)


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Jesus Christ Nanji, did you even read what I wrote or are you wilfully blind? I said that even liberals can be one issue voters as well, but the tendency that I've seen in my experience is that cons are more often single issue. Are there multiple issue cons? Of fucking course there are. Get out of your partisan headspace and realize that nothing is so black and white. You criticized me earlier for separating people into groups of us or them so it's easier to demonize, but isn't that exactly what you're doing? If you're going to bitch flip over such a tiny issue and ignore the real point I was trying to make, then fine, go for it. Prove how little you care about the real issue and how important the little things are, how important your identity politics is.

Tell me Nanji, do you believe in holding your reps to a higher standard? Do you believe they should be taking unlimited campaign donations? Do you think they truly have your interest in mind if they're being paid millions by the medical industry? Those are the true issue Nanji, not a small comment about "single issue voting." If it's such a big deal, I'm sorry, I retract my statement. It was inappropriate for the conversation. Now what do you think about the REAL issues?

First off you seem congenitally unable to make a valid non-partisan point so I'm not going to argue with that anymore. Second, my point was all of the lefties ignored your partisan statement and when I copied it almost verbatim they jumped on me. So, my point was made by showing all of the leftie loons, including you, are very narrow sighted.

Then, actually, you make a point you aren't even aware you've made. You say the "real" issues (as if only you and other lefties know the real issues" are money going to elected officials. Which I find hilarious since you lefties want those elected officials to have more power and control while I'm fine if they wither away and die. If you really believed money going to politicians was a problem you'd want to take power from them, as I do. But you don't, you just don't want them to take money from groups who aren't "your" group.


You were the first one to bring issue to the fact that I mentioned something about single issue voting and everyone else jumped on that, so please be an adult and take credit for your own actions.

And you are absolutely fucking wrong about me wanting leftist elected officials who take corporate money to have more power. I DONT. That's why I've been saying all day that these politicians need to be primaried. They need to be replaced with candidates that represent the people, not corporate interests. Project your prejudices all you want, because I do not conform to them. I despise politicians that take copious amounts of money from any special interest groups, both on the right AND the left. I don't want them to take ANY money from anyone who isn't an individual. So your assumptions are full of shit Nanji.


I always take credit for my actions. I've said before that I like all of the lefty loons to state positions that are phoquing stupid and then show how much hate is in their heart. I think I demonstrated that well here in this thread. I used your words, which when a lefty said them all of the other lefties ignored but then jumped on me for repeating your words. I find it funny as hell that even now you can't understand what that shows about your (and other lefty loons) ability to think outside your indoctrination.




Wayward5oul -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 10:11:12 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.



You people are ridiculous. It's okay to attack everyone about anything other than their orientations. Get real.




Really? I will have to remember that, then. That could be useful.


Have you had your head in the sand? This whole site is full of people attacking each other about everything there is to attack people about.


No my head has not been in the sand. The rise in such behavior is the reason that my own participation has decreased somewhat. But that does not mean that I am going to keep my trap shut every time some one violates TOS by, as you yourself stated, acting like a cunt.

And I am not the only one bothered by it, as there is a whole thread on the subject right now. So there are others who prefer to try and have adult conversation without people coming in and acting like cunts, to use your preferred terminology, again.




heavyblinker -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 10:27:07 PM)

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Why do they?
I'm sorry, but I honestly can't see any point in unilateral standard raising: either both lots do, or it's a complete waste of time (at best) or showing your belly in a submissive posture to scum who want to gut you (not at best).


I'm saying this because childish antics like this make them seem weaker. Trump is such a repugnant piece of shit that they are in a great position to win big in 2020, but when they show that it's all about winning the next election as opposed to helping the people, they come off as being really out of touch.

The GOP are scumbags and that will never change. Their political views alone make it impossible. But the Democrats have been following their lead when they should be moving in the opposite direction.




Nnanji -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 10:27:46 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.



You people are ridiculous. It's okay to attack everyone about anything other than their orientations. Get real.




Really? I will have to remember that, then. That could be useful.


Have you had your head in the sand? This whole site is full of people attacking each other about everything there is to attack people about.


No my head has not been in the sand. The rise in such behavior is the reason that my own participation has decreased somewhat. But that does not mean that I am going to keep my trap shut every time some one violates TOS by, as you yourself stated, acting like a cunt.

And I am not the only one bothered by it, as there is a whole thread on the subject right now. So there are others who prefer to try and have adult conversation without people coming in and acting like cunts, to use your preferred terminology, again.

I tell you what. Since that thread you've mentioned was posted by one of the worst offenders, why don't you start there.




Wayward5oul -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/5/2017 10:35:03 PM)


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Im happy for them
However the people I care about are those who cant afford their healthcare OR premiums or medication, and are sick and dying and too poor to get thru this bills consequences.
And People with pre existing conditions like crohn's, or cancer, or asthma, or anaemia, or autistic, or diabetes, let alone get pregnant, raped or have depression/bipolar.



Well people like Osidegirl don't want their premiums increased to cover the people you mentioned. I mean, they could use that money to take a vacation or buy a new car or something.


Are You suggesting they are lacking in compassion?? or greedy?



Yep.... yep.




Why are you specifically attacking Oside?
did she upset you with a truth again?
Please stop using her or anyones name as a reason to be a cunt.


It's against TOS as well, I believe, as she is not a part of this thread.

She knows as well as anyone that there is no guts to the TOS anymore.
Otherwise she would have been thrown off for attacking others orientations.



You people are ridiculous. It's okay to attack everyone about anything other than their orientations. Get real.




Really? I will have to remember that, then. That could be useful.


Have you had your head in the sand? This whole site is full of people attacking each other about everything there is to attack people about.


No my head has not been in the sand. The rise in such behavior is the reason that my own participation has decreased somewhat. But that does not mean that I am going to keep my trap shut every time some one violates TOS by, as you yourself stated, acting like a cunt.

And I am not the only one bothered by it, as there is a whole thread on the subject right now. So there are others who prefer to try and have adult conversation without people coming in and acting like cunts, to use your preferred terminology, again.

I tell you what. Since that thread you've mentioned was posted by one of the worst offenders, why don't you start there.

No need to. On the threads that I read, you are among the worst.




Hillwilliam -> RE: The Democrats need to be better than this (5/6/2017 2:26:52 AM)


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She ran on:
1) it's my turn (we're taking turns now?)
2) I'm a woman (so is Jill Stein)
3) I'm not Trump (Stein and Johnson weren't either)
Nothing progressive. No vision. No plan.
Just "Better together."
It's the dumbest campaign I've ever seen run. And that includes Mondale!


No vision. No plan. Just an entitled elitist. Had she not been coddled after 2000, she may have maintained a connection with the People the Democrats are always talking about supporting. It's really bad that someone like Trump beat her.



No one other than someone like Trump could have beat her. But who cares about that now.


because the rest of the candidates were..........Republicans




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