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Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 8:29:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but but corporations are people...

sorry Wayward, I agree with you, that this discussion has taken place...says so much
Apart from the fact people think its ok that he was treated in such a way, its past time that people stop saying "free market" works for anyone but the corporations.

Oh ya....and starving in Venezuela with no toilet paper is such a better life. Or...wait...being in a reeducation camp in North Korea, or in jail in China. Of course starving in Cuba or the old Soviet Union was so much better as well. What an idiot.


Here, as capitalists, we have a choice - ignore the propaganda and take advantage of discounts, and fly United... Or don't.

Under Crazy Lucy's ideal system, as you say - you cannot even find toilet paper. And the information you have access to, is only that propaganda Dear Leader allows you to have

And...since the airlines have Federal Regulations, something Lucy would like more of, they could not legally bargain with passengers.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/economics-101-price-controls-lead-to-force/article/2620152

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So why didn't the airline simply increase its offer until it found a passenger willing to make the transaction? The answer is that federal regulations set an artificial cap on what an airline has to pay if it kicks you off their plane. So long as it can get you to your destination within two hours of your scheduled arrival, an airline doesn't have to pay you any more than twice the ticket price, or $675, whichever is less. And if it cannot get you there within that time frame, it must pay you four times the ticket price, capped at $1,350.




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 8:32:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

FR
UA is now reportedly refunding the fares of all the passengers in the flight that this happened on.

Let me guess -- if they sign agreeing not to discuss the incident.

Again, better than being a journalist in Venezuela where you go to jail for speaking your mind.




BoscoX -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 8:37:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but but corporations are people...

sorry Wayward, I agree with you, that this discussion has taken place...says so much
Apart from the fact people think its ok that he was treated in such a way, its past time that people stop saying "free market" works for anyone but the corporations.

Oh ya....and starving in Venezuela with no toilet paper is such a better life. Or...wait...being in a reeducation camp in North Korea, or in jail in China. Of course starving in Cuba or the old Soviet Union was so much better as well. What an idiot.


Here, as capitalists, we have a choice - ignore the propaganda and take advantage of discounts, and fly United... Or don't.

Under Crazy Lucy's ideal system, as you say - you cannot even find toilet paper. And the information you have access to, is only that propaganda Dear Leader allows you to have

And...since the airlines have Federal Regulations, something Lucy would like more of, they could not legally bargain with passengers.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/economics-101-price-controls-lead-to-force/article/2620152

quote:

So why didn't the airline simply increase its offer until it found a passenger willing to make the transaction? The answer is that federal regulations set an artificial cap on what an airline has to pay if it kicks you off their plane. So long as it can get you to your destination within two hours of your scheduled arrival, an airline doesn't have to pay you any more than twice the ticket price, or $675, whichever is less. And if it cannot get you there within that time frame, it must pay you four times the ticket price, capped at $1,350.



That makes perfect sense in a leftist cartoon world. Government regulations got us here so what is obviously needed, is more bureaucratic interference with the free markets

Keep listening to them and we will need ObamaAir to fix things real good, in about twenty more years

"But ticket to fly or else we shoot you"




BoscoX -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 8:41:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: Wayward5oul

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UA is now reportedly refunding the fares of all the passengers in the flight that this happened on.

Let me guess -- if they sign agreeing not to discuss the incident.

Again, better than being a journalist in Venezuela where you go to jail for speaking your mind.


Venezuela, Bernie Sander's utopia





mnottertail -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 8:43:06 AM)

Venezuela, Felchgobbler Gobblers non-sequitur, strawman, and propaganda about things Bernie never said, as nutsuckers destroy America.




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 10:21:10 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Venezuela, Felchgobbler Gobblers non-sequitur, strawman, and propaganda about things Bernie never said, as nutsuckers destroy America.

Ah, you're upset. Could it be because your shrink that trades you drugs for sex can't make your appointment?




Hillwilliam -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 10:36:01 AM)

The good news is that United just got an award.


Best Chinese Takeout. [8D]




Lucylastic -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:19:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but but corporations are people...

sorry Wayward, I agree with you, that this discussion has taken place...says so much
Apart from the fact people think its ok that he was treated in such a way, its past time that people stop saying "free market" works for anyone but the corporations.

Oh ya....and starving in Venezuela with no toilet paper is such a better life. Or...wait...being in a reeducation camp in North Korea, or in jail in China. Of course starving in Cuba or the old Soviet Union was so much better as well. What an idiot.

I dont live in venzuela...
I dont live in the USA either.
I dont live in France, I dont live in Germany, Spain, Portugal, , or Italy, or Norway, or Denmark, or Belgium or any myriad of other socialised countries that seem to be doing so much better than venezuela...NK,China, Cuba, or the USSR ....so talk about strawman, wurzel
try and stay in the realm of reality




Lucylastic -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:20:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but but corporations are people...

sorry Wayward, I agree with you, that this discussion has taken place...says so much
Apart from the fact people think its ok that he was treated in such a way, its past time that people stop saying "free market" works for anyone but the corporations.

Oh ya....and starving in Venezuela with no toilet paper is such a better life. Or...wait...being in a reeducation camp in North Korea, or in jail in China. Of course starving in Cuba or the old Soviet Union was so much better as well. What an idiot.


Here, as capitalists, we have a choice - ignore the propaganda and take advantage of discounts, and fly United... Or don't.

Under Crazy Lucy's ideal system, as you say - you cannot even find toilet paper. And the information you have access to, is only that propaganda Dear Leader allows you to have

And...since the airlines have Federal Regulations, something Lucy would like more of, they could not legally bargain with passengers.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/economics-101-price-controls-lead-to-force/article/2620152

quote:

So why didn't the airline simply increase its offer until it found a passenger willing to make the transaction? The answer is that federal regulations set an artificial cap on what an airline has to pay if it kicks you off their plane. So long as it can get you to your destination within two hours of your scheduled arrival, an airline doesn't have to pay you any more than twice the ticket price, or $675, whichever is less. And if it cannot get you there within that time frame, it must pay you four times the ticket price, capped at $1,350.


more straw bullshit




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:29:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but but corporations are people...

sorry Wayward, I agree with you, that this discussion has taken place...says so much
Apart from the fact people think its ok that he was treated in such a way, its past time that people stop saying "free market" works for anyone but the corporations.

Oh ya....and starving in Venezuela with no toilet paper is such a better life. Or...wait...being in a reeducation camp in North Korea, or in jail in China. Of course starving in Cuba or the old Soviet Union was so much better as well. What an idiot.

I dont live in venzuela...
I dont live in the USA either.
I dont live in France, I dont live in Germany, Spain, Portugal, , or Italy, or Norway, or Denmark, or Belgium or any myriad of other socialised countries that seem to be doing so much better than venezuela...NK,China, Cuba, or the USSR ....so talk about strawman, wurzel
try and stay in the realm of reality


Thank you for explaining that your ignorance is due to your residential location and your inability, despite the Internet, thank god for Al Gore's invention, to see beyond your immediate area. I've always just assumed your ignorance was due to your profoundly low intelligence.




Musicmystery -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:31:12 PM)

If you feel these tirades make you look intelligent, you have a perception problem.




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:35:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

but but corporations are people...

sorry Wayward, I agree with you, that this discussion has taken place...says so much
Apart from the fact people think its ok that he was treated in such a way, its past time that people stop saying "free market" works for anyone but the corporations.

Oh ya....and starving in Venezuela with no toilet paper is such a better life. Or...wait...being in a reeducation camp in North Korea, or in jail in China. Of course starving in Cuba or the old Soviet Union was so much better as well. What an idiot.


Here, as capitalists, we have a choice - ignore the propaganda and take advantage of discounts, and fly United... Or don't.

Under Crazy Lucy's ideal system, as you say - you cannot even find toilet paper. And the information you have access to, is only that propaganda Dear Leader allows you to have

And...since the airlines have Federal Regulations, something Lucy would like more of, they could not legally bargain with passengers.



http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/economics-101-price-controls-lead-to-force/article/2620152

quote:

So why didn't the airline simply increase its offer until it found a passenger willing to make the transaction? The answer is that federal regulations set an artificial cap on what an airline has to pay if it kicks you off their plane. So long as it can get you to your destination within two hours of your scheduled arrival, an airline doesn't have to pay you any more than twice the ticket price, or $675, whichever is less. And if it cannot get you there within that time frame, it must pay you four times the ticket price, capped at $1,350.


more straw bullshit

Oh how precious. She's seen some of the big boys say something about straw and now she's mimicking them.

https://www.ted.com/talks/einstein_the_parrot_talks_and_squawks




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:37:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

If you feel these tirades make you look intelligent, you have a perception problem.

Actually no. I am intelligent but these presentations of facts make me feel as if I'm finding joy in treating ignints like they believe they have a right to treat others. If you don't like it, stop doing it first.




Musicmystery -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:40:39 PM)

Sure you are. It's OK. Everyone has their special place.




AtUrCervix -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:48:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

[b]The plane wasnt overbooked.[/b] In this case, the problem arose because United decided at the last minute to fly four members of staff to a connection point and needed to bump bitch slap four passengers to make way for them.


At this point, the airline could have identified another passenger for removal or raised its offer anywhere up to a maximum of $1,350.

Erin Benson, a spokeswoman for United, could not confirm whether other passengers were sought. She did confirm that no offer was made above $800 to the slant eyed asian, but could not comment on why.


Actually...it was (see your comments above regards the 4 UAL staff...ergo....overbooked).

(It's on the ticket).

It says you can be DENIED BOARDING.
he had already boarded.
(It's on your ticket)[:D]


Read the fine print.

(I'm not here to educate you).

I have.
Thank goodness you aren't here to educate me because you'd be doing a shit job.
It says you can be DENIED BOARDING (I typed that slowly just for you).
The flight was not overbooked.
Due to poor planning 4 employees needing a freebie needed to be put on at the last minute. This is not over booking, this is a brain fart on someone's part.
They decided to make their bad planning into someone else's emergency.
I have already explained that forcible confiscation of someone's purchased property because another person feels entitled to have it FREE is a LIBERAL practice.


Liberal.[8|]


The flight was overbooked.

It was overbooked because there was a United flight (delayed) in Chicago that needed additional flight crew.

Those flight crew....not arriving in Chicago...timely...would have delayed a flight with a similar number of passengers as the flight where this fellow was pulled off.

United owns that airplane.

That airplane could produce (in Chicago...by virtue of providing said 4 employees)...a flight that could then therefore cause said (concurring) flight to occur.

If you have any doubt about any of the above....see the red highlighted section above.

When you own the airplane (and don't sell tickets with fine print that allows you to cause other flights....in airplanes that you own....to arrive on time by virtue of putting your staff in same)....feel free to be butt hurt.

Until then...United was in the right.

It sucked. It was awful for the fellow that got pulled off the plane (that was owned by United).

The man who bought a ticket....agreed to the terms.

(Call the waaaaaaaambulance).

Thus endeth the lesson ###END###

As cited above, they violated their own rules.
Seriously, I don't know if your liberalism, your ignorance or your corporate bootlicking is taking center stage.
If they did things right, how come ALL 3 of the security agents are now suspended AND they are refunding fares for the whole planeload of people?
You're sounding like bosco. Lying about things to cover up your abject ignorance.



Losing 1.2 billion in stock valuation in 48 hours would be my first guess....my second would be....selling future tickets (revenue).

Did you have any other questions?




AtUrCervix -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:50:03 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix
The flight was overbooked.

It was overbooked because there was a United flight (delayed) in Chicago that needed additional flight crew.

Those flight crew....not arriving in Chicago...timely...would have delayed a flight with a similar number of passengers as the flight where this fellow was pulled off.

United owns that airplane.

That airplane could produce (in Chicago...by virtue of providing said 4 employees)...a flight that could then therefore cause said (concurring) flight to occur.

If you have any doubt about any of the above....see the red highlighted section above.

When you own the airplane (and don't sell tickets with fine print that allows you to cause other flights....in airplanes that you own....to arrive on time by virtue of putting your staff in same)....feel free to be butt hurt.

Until then...United was in the right.

It sucked. It was awful for the fellow that got pulled off the plane (that was owned by United).

The man who bought a ticket....agreed to the terms.

(Call the waaaaaaaambulance).

Thus endeth the lesson ###END###


United is NOT in the right for causing injury to this man. If he refuse to leave the plane. They could have send their employees on a vehicle to where they need to go to. As it's just 4 hours. And their flight is the next day apparently. They would have gotten to their flight in time in a driven vehicle.

They simply put their own staff comfort ABOVE a FULL PRICED PAYING CUSTOMER.

That is where they are wrong! Every company needs to have PR too! And they failed extremely badly here.

And it's a frail 69 yr old dude for gawd's sake! What bullies!!


They should have done EVERYTHING very differently.

Were they legally in the right?

Without debate.




Lucylastic -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:53:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


Oh how precious. She's seen some of the big boys say something about straw and now she's mimicking them.



If you cant take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen.
I more than capable of handling your weak dribble.
altho your intelligence is obviously more highly thought of inside your own head it doesnt relate on the screen
On the screen its piffling and pathetic.
big boys, HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH grab a diaper, you're full of shit




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:54:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The good news is that United just got an award.


Best Chinese Takeout. [8D]

Although, I believe, the guy was Vietnamese, this is funny. But be careful, the moose may not like you making comments like this.




Lucylastic -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:55:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

If you feel these tirades make you look intelligent, you have a perception problem.

Actually no. I am intelligent but these presentations of facts make me feel as if I'm finding joy in treating ignints like they believe they have a right to treat others. If you don't like it, stop doing it first.

ignints?
really?
LOL




Nnanji -> RE: United again...Forces doc off an overbooked flight (4/13/2017 12:57:40 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


Oh how precious. She's seen some of the big boys say something about straw and now she's mimicking them.



If you cant take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen.
I more than capable of handling your weak dribble.
altho your intelligence is obviously more highly thought of inside your own head it doesnt relate on the screen
On the screen its piffling and pathetic.
big boys, HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH grab a diaper, you're full of shit

Obviously if this scribble is an indication you're not handling anything. Exactly where, may I ask, did I indicate the heat in the kitchen was bothering me? Is it that the mental patient gave you a list of responses and this one seemed, to you, to be the most appropriate?




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