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vincentML -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 11:22:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think Trump has plans to go to war with China.



As he promised on the campaign trail, President Trump has plans to negotiate better trade deals. It is the Chinese who appear to be setting themselves on a war footing, and the kind subservience toward them that Obama has engaged in endangers us more than anything.

The kind of weakness he projects only emboldens them.

Better deals for his own business interests, yeah.

It is silly to believe the Chinese are reacting to Obama's "projected weakness" now in his final year of tenure. It is more likely they are reacting to Trump's heavy-handed belligerence, despite the propaganda from the right, inasmuch as photos of defense installations appeared after Trump's chat with the Taiwan president.




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 11:40:03 AM)

Interesting piece in the Economist -- Germany will be the new leader of the free world.

Germany doesn't want to be per se, but it's a situation of last person standing.

Trump's erratic behavior and shoot-from-the-hip "policy" is going to cost the US jobs, economic stability, and global influence.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21710301-germany-and-its-chancellor-are-still-too-hesitant-be-able-lead-free-world-iron-waffler





BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 11:46:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Interesting piece in the Economist -- Germany will be the new leader of the free world.

Germany doesn't want to be per se, but it's a situation of last person standing.

Trump's erratic behavior and shoot-from-the-hip "policy" is going to cost the US jobs, economic stability, and global influence.

http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21710301-germany-and-its-chancellor-are-still-too-hesitant-be-able-lead-free-world-iron-waffler




Trapped ibehind a thick black Burka and whipped nearly to death for revealing an ankle or holding hands in public, Angela Merkel & Co won't even be a part of the free world.




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 11:55:07 AM)

Both Time and Forbes already call her the leader of the free world.

But then, they don't base their reporting on shit they just make up.




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 12:19:10 PM)

How did TIME and Forbes do with their election predictions. [sm=dancer.gif]

And, I didn't make anything up.

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SHE MADE IT UP: NYPD Arrests Muslim Girl Who Claimed Attack by Trump Supporters

http://heatst.com/life/she-made-it-up-nypd-arrests-muslim-girl-who-claimed-attack-by-trump-supporters/




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 12:22:19 PM)

Find a globe. Look for Germany. Then look for NYC.

Give it some thought. Then check back.




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 12:29:40 PM)

Germanistan isn't the subject, Trump Derangement Syndrome is the subject.

New York City college student Yasmin Seweid, who claimed to be the victim of a hate crime by Trump supporters, is under arrest and charged with filing a false report, a police source told the New York Daily News.

The 18-year-old Seweid caused quite the media stir with her sensationalized account of Trump supporters attacking her on the subway. She claimed three men attempted to pull off her hijab while calling her a terrorist and yelling Trump’s name. All this happened, she said, while New Yorkers sat idly by and watched her get assaulted.




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 12:35:28 PM)

You want a different subject, start a different thread.




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 12:55:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You want a different subject, start a different thread.


Confused much? You started bleating about the 4th Reichiphate!




WickedsDesire -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 2:12:06 PM)

sock idiots all behold them....i am on my 12 th and await a wench calling me...with orbs bit of a reality a;ll are fake on here...or a nisuacace




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 3:00:33 PM)

Donald Trump will still be violating the Constitution as soon as he’s sworn in

Continuance of the current Trump empire means that it will be rife with opportunities for quid pro quos and other illegalities. Most immediately, if those businesses continue to receive foreign government payments, Trump will be in violation of the emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution from his first day as president.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/13/donald-trump-will-still-be-violating-the-constitution-as-soon-as-hes-sworn-in/?utm_term=.27c545d61157




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 3:19:18 PM)

"Everybody keep panicking" [sm=runaway.gif]




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 3:28:10 PM)

Look up panic, then look up concern. Then look up Constitution, and why it's important to actually follow it.

Then look up the duties of the president, starting with the Oath of Office and what it commits a president to regarding the Constitution.

Then maybe you can sit at the grown-ups table and discuss it without looking ridiculous.

You know -- like Trump's meeting with Republican members of Congress, when he expressed his admiration for Article 12 of the Constitution, apparently unaware that there are only seven Articles.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139




BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 4:00:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You know -- like Trump's meeting with Republican members of Congress, when he expressed his admiration for Article 12 of the Constitution, apparently unaware that there are only seven Articles.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139


Is that like dodging sniper fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I23fjRN-PGc

Or visiting all 57 states

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

[sm=goodnight.gif]

(Everybody keep panicking).




Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 4:14:35 PM)

Don't ask me. He's your idiot.




Real0ne -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 6:59:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Look up panic, then look up concern. Then look up Constitution, and why it's important to actually follow it.

Then look up the duties of the president, starting with the Oath of Office and what it commits a president to regarding the Constitution.

Then maybe you can sit at the grown-ups table and discuss it without looking ridiculous.

You know -- like Trump's meeting with Republican members of Congress, when he expressed his admiration for Article 12 of the Constitution, apparently unaware that there are only seven Articles.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139


LOL, come on, the amendments are articles (articles of amendment) and the amendments are part of the constitution. I have heard it expressed that way and written that way by many authors.



Article 12 U.S. Constitution

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. (See Note 14)--The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Proposal and Ratification The twelfth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Eighth Congress, on the 9th of December, 1803, in lieu of the original third paragraph of the first section of the second article; and was declared in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 25th of September, 1804, to have been ratified by the legislatures of 13 of the 17 States. The dates of ratification were: North Carolina, December 21, 1803; Maryland, December 24, 1803; Kentucky, December 27, 1803; Ohio, December 30, 1803; Pennsylvania, January 5, 1804; Vermont, January 30, 1804; Virginia, February 3, 1804; New York, February 10, 1804; New Jersey, February 22, 1804; Rhode Island, March 12, 1804; South Carolina, May 15, 1804; Georgia, May 19, 1804; New Hampshire, June 15, 1804.

Ratification was completed on June 15, 1804.

The amendment was subsequently ratified by Tennessee, July 27, 1804.

The amendment was rejected by Delaware, January 18, 1804; Massachusetts, February 3, 1804; Connecticut, at its session begun May 10, 1804.





BoscoX -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 8:01:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Look up panic, then look up concern. Then look up Constitution, and why it's important to actually follow it.

Then look up the duties of the president, starting with the Oath of Office and what it commits a president to regarding the Constitution.

Then maybe you can sit at the grown-ups table and discuss it without looking ridiculous.

You know -- like Trump's meeting with Republican members of Congress, when he expressed his admiration for Article 12 of the Constitution, apparently unaware that there are only seven Articles.


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-donald-trump-constitution-guide-unconstitutional-freedom-liberty-khan-214139


LOL, come on, the amendments are articles (articles of amendment) and the amendments are part of the constitution. I have heard it expressed that way and written that way by many authors.



Article 12 U.S. Constitution

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. (See Note 14)--The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

Proposal and Ratification The twelfth amendment to the Constitution of the United States was proposed to the legislatures of the several States by the Eighth Congress, on the 9th of December, 1803, in lieu of the original third paragraph of the first section of the second article; and was declared in a proclamation of the Secretary of State, dated the 25th of September, 1804, to have been ratified by the legislatures of 13 of the 17 States. The dates of ratification were: North Carolina, December 21, 1803; Maryland, December 24, 1803; Kentucky, December 27, 1803; Ohio, December 30, 1803; Pennsylvania, January 5, 1804; Vermont, January 30, 1804; Virginia, February 3, 1804; New York, February 10, 1804; New Jersey, February 22, 1804; Rhode Island, March 12, 1804; South Carolina, May 15, 1804; Georgia, May 19, 1804; New Hampshire, June 15, 1804.

Ratification was completed on June 15, 1804.

The amendment was subsequently ratified by Tennessee, July 27, 1804.

The amendment was rejected by Delaware, January 18, 1804; Massachusetts, February 3, 1804; Connecticut, at its session begun May 10, 1804.




Good job, I didn't know that. The president elect's vast, deep knowledge of the constitution apparently Trumps Musical's hysterical rantings as well.





Real0ne -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/15/2016 10:53:06 PM)

then of course one of my favorite articles to post is article 13, which is printed via the gubmint approval in all the school books before it magically got changed.



[img]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/constitution/1840amcitrefman1.jpg[/img]

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of course there is the cover story that goes along with it like everything else da gub does that kool aid kids swallow hook line and sinker without question or concern.

as we can see last part of article 12 the 'art' 13 right out of the 'citizens manual'.


Oh and if anyone is into trivia, when people talk about the 'NWO"' or new world order, that is america btw. Few people are aware of that.

Its sort of amazing what you can all turn up when spending a few hours at the law library.

Imagine all the dirt in the national archives ;) [8D]






Musicmystery -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/16/2016 7:20:03 AM)

Yeah, that's why people running around defending their 2nd article gun rights and 1st article free speech rights.

Oh wait . . . no one does that. Ever.

[8|]




WhoreMods -> RE: Legal scholars to Trump: Abide by Constitution (12/16/2016 8:17:44 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Germanistan

So tell me, what percentage of the German population is moslem, and how do their numbers compare to the jihadist population in the 'States?




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