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RE: Unite The Country ? - 11/21/2016 12:49:13 PM   
tamaka


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Your link gave a 93% figure three times, yet you insisted it was 99%
Comprehension and lying are not the same thing
from your own link
Giuliani pointed out that “93% of blacks are killed by other blacks.”

After the other talk-show guest, Georgetown University Professor Michael Eric Dyson, questioned that statistic, Giuliani responded by citing another figure from a 2010 Bureau of Justice Statistics report that did, indeed, conclude that 93% of black homicide victims from 1980 through 2008 were killed by black offenders.

This reporter took a look at the 2007 U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics report. In that study, the agency reported that blacks were victims of 7,999 homicides in 2005. It corroborated Giuliani’s claim that 93% of blacks were killed by other blacks, or about 7,440 murders in that year alone.


Ok lucy... why don't you go take an extra 15 minute break to calm down. Then go back to your cubicle and crunch the numbers i gave you. ... Meanwhile, i'll get back to my meeting.


LOL why is it you think you have ANY ability to drag me down to your lying scum level.



Lol... too funny. Thanks for the entertainment.

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RE: Unite The Country ? - 11/21/2016 12:52:08 PM   
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The link i gave you had the statistics in it.


Ok, l'll give you that the link you gave has the correct numbers. However, the link you gave did not support your statement. Those were not the numbers you cited.


Lol... you've obviously never been in upper management before. Lol


As I stated in my initial response to you, I was not interested in an insult war. It seems to be your go to. Stick to the facts, please. When you can't do that, its time to walk away from the keyboard.


Not an insult. Just an obvious observation. And I'll stick to whatever i want.


Well then I will just tell you that your observation, like many others of yours that I have seen, is wrong.

But this isn't a discussion. It is a devolving one liner back and forth. It is not adding to the discussion so I really see no need for us to continue.


Exactly.

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RE: Unite The Country ? - 11/21/2016 1:22:20 PM   
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PS what is your definition of allowing abortion on demand?

This from someone who thinks they know so well what to expect from me? I've posted on abortion more than a few times, often in the same threads as you. Suddenly it's a mystery?

I think there comes a point in time when it's no longer "just" her body anymore. I don't think that point in time is conception, and I don't think it only starts after birth. For me, the only issues are when and what the exceptions are after that point. I think that viability is probably the best basis on which to decide the "when" question, and medical necessity probably the best basis thereafter. But, of course, views vary widely (see here).

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Abortion on demand means (in English) if she wants it she gets it, and that is what I understand it to mean. If it's code for something else, you'll have to enlighten me.



K.



thank you...I was just wondering..as "abortion on demand" as you demonstrated means different things to different people and for different things.

Your understanding as you said
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Abortion on demand means (in English) if she wants it she gets it, and that is what I understand it to mean. If it's code for something else, you'll have to enlighten me.


Roe vs Wade has a viability limit of 24-28 weeks(per 1973). Abortion is legal . With restrictions by states allowed.
Most states have a legal limit. at the moment its around 20-22 weeks.
After that, exceptions are made for incest, rape, and the life/health of the mother
43 states have restrictions on abortion viability dates.
Which is hardly abortion on demand.

https://www.guttmacher.org/state-policy/explore/overview-abortion-laws.

Some people seem to think abortion on demand means that "you can take baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby.”
which is obvious bollocks to anyone with a brain.

Abortion on demand means to me.
without a waiting period
without having to travel to another state or county
without having to first prove a special circumstance such as rape/incest
with no further cost-prohibitive restrictions
no transvaginal ultrasound or other medically unnecessary intrusive tests
The woman and her doctor(and sperm donor if there is one around) decide what happens..

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RE: Unite The Country ? - 11/21/2016 2:12:49 PM   
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I dont believe she was speaking generally. You may, fine. That's your interpretation. Not mine And she is an adult. She should be able to defend her posts herself.

As far as you accusing me of looking for a "gotcha" moment, whether or not that is true, what business of that is yours? Do you routinely go around and monitor posters and how they treat each other? If so, I have to tell you that you must be playing favorites. Also, do you feel that it is your role to admonish posters for their behavior? This is the dungeon, after all.


my jumping in does not preclude her from "defending her posts."

since youre not engaged in a private conversation, but rather a public one open to everyone who's here, it's everyone's business.

as for me personally, it just happened to be what I was reading this morning and I take academic offense at "gotcha" nonsense. sorry--people don't get passes on that just because this is "the dungeon."

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RE: Unite The Country ? - 11/21/2016 4:43:27 PM   
Wayward5oul


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I dont believe she was speaking generally. You may, fine. That's your interpretation. Not mine And she is an adult. She should be able to defend her posts herself.

As far as you accusing me of looking for a "gotcha" moment, whether or not that is true, what business of that is yours? Do you routinely go around and monitor posters and how they treat each other? If so, I have to tell you that you must be playing favorites. Also, do you feel that it is your role to admonish posters for their behavior? This is the dungeon, after all.


my jumping in does not preclude her from "defending her posts."

since youre not engaged in a private conversation, but rather a public one open to everyone who's here, it's everyone's business.

as for me personally, it just happened to be what I was reading this morning and I take academic offense at "gotcha" nonsense. sorry--people don't get passes on that just because this is "the dungeon."


Then it is just as well that I don't need a pass.

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