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thishereboi -> RE: Identity thieft prosecution allowed for undocumented workers (5/9/2016 2:32:05 AM)
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its cuz in the US you have to give your ssn to every tom, dick & harry..
Actually, no.
Required for banking account/mutual fund/CC/IRA, etc., employer, and government. Anybody and everybody asks, true, but if the phone company, internet service, or anybody else says they refuse service unless you give SSN, they are breaking the law. Believe me, I've been through all that chasing down the a-holes (from phone and internet company) who got my dad's and his wife's SSN under false pretense of "requirement." ID theft three months after.
And in any case, the subsequent ID theft my dad (actually, I, in his stead) had to deal with resulting thereby was just as illegal for that US citizen who stole it as it is for legal or illegal Mexicans. Or vice versa.
Don't carry that card on your person, and don't give the number to anyone but for financial services, employment, or government. Doesn't absolutely prevent ID theft, but reduces the odds a good bit.
In Canada you are only required to give your sin (like your ssn) for tax purposes only, so it shouldnt even be given to banks unless its for an interest bearing account, its also not required to access your credit bureau files either.. and its easier to tell the a-holes there to FO cuz the privacy laws are stronger there than they are here..
There are so many breaches now, even the irs has been hacked.. a couple of years ago Experian let some singaporian con artist walk right in & have access to hundreds of thousands of files.. then they have several months before they even have to tell you what happened, by then your info has been sold over and over on the dark web & the damage has been done.. these companies should be forced to pay real compensation for crappy security, not just give victims that stupid credit monitoring crap/scam.. its disgusting that they get away with that..
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-experian-databreach-idUSBREA321SL20140403
Wow, it must be really easy to have income by illegal means in Canada, then, as long as you stash it in a non-interest bearing account.
It's all about taxes and the IRS in the US. The requirement of taxation requires in turn accurate reporting of income, the same in every country (except for maybe Canada). The bank, CC company, etc. and employer require it because the IRS requires it of -them- (for tax purposes), so that if, e.g., you report $55,000 income on your tax return, but have deposited $250,000 in the bank and mutual fund, and put $150,000 on the CC, the IRS gets 'better acquainted' with you soon enough.
Unless you do that in Canada via the non-interest bearing bank account, as you say.
WTF? having money in a bank account does not mean you earned it illegally.. it could be an inheritance, it could be a gift, it could be from selling a vehicle or property, it could be from someone paying off money you loaned to them.. it in no way means you arent paying your taxes.. the bank having your sin/ssn doesnt keep anyone from having illegal income.. if you dont earn interest on that money in the bank then the govt isnt informed about what you have in that account, so them having your number doesnt prevent a damn thing.. Half the world's money laundering from drugs & crime comes thru US banks, ffs..
"Estimates are that $500 billion to $1 trillion of international criminal proceeds are moved internationally and deposited into bank accounts annually. It is estimated that half of that money comes to the United States"."
http://rense.com/general28/money.htm
Anyone could claim that a bribe or payment for cocaine was a "gift," a payoff of a non-accounted for loan, a "loan" never intended to be paid back, for services or product rendered, etc., a "gift," because the Canadian tax people say 'OK, that's fine,' and that's all there is to it? Are you trying to tell us that every one (or ten) million $ "gift" is accepted by Canadian tax authorities at 'face value,' no question or verification at all as to legitimacy of such claim? That there is no tax on inheritance? But none of that matters, and all questioning as to source prohibited if accumulated in a non-interest bearing account in the first place?
No tax on 10 million dollar "gifts" in Canada? And no questions how that happened?
As I said before, great place to be for money obtained by illegal means, if those Canadian tax guys are such suckers.
Aside from the fact that trillions reside in the Bahamas and not in the US from illegal endeavors, Canada would absolutely take over the business of illegal funds their transfers if their banks and tax authorities were anywhere near the clods that you claim them to be.
Why don't you just go back home and STFU?
well that was an interesting little rant. So tell us, did you have to study somewhere to be such a classless little jerk or where you born this way?
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