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Enema Training and Conditioning? - 11/30/2004 4:01:51 PM   
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OK, I note in the list of interests for a CM personal that enema training and conditioning is a specific category. I would like to know how others interpret this practice or what they read into it. As a Dom I read into it the idea of punishment or a ritualized power practice applied on a given schedule or as a routine to enforce the idea of control. I would like to know what others think.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 11/30/2004 7:03:44 PM   
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*grins* Hi and Welcome to the boards...

i can't really post experiences on this, i have never been enema trained or conditioned but most i have talked to think of it more of a punishment which i have never really understood. I was sent a story once which was totally HOT and involved enema's and them being used during a scene. Sounded like a big turn on for me, i believe i would be finding a lot of trouble to get into if this were punishment. *grins*

i do see it as a form of control and i do LOVE to be controlled maybe that is why i see it was a turn on. *shrugs*

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/1/2004 3:29:41 AM   
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For me enema training is NOT about punishment. I do it because I love anal play but I do NOT like shit play. I have some subs who like to do the enema themselves; but most think it is much more personal and gets them into their role much faster if I do the enema. If a sub does not do it well; there is punishment. It usually involves me doing the task that they failed to do properly; then a retention enema which can be seen as REAL punishment. Those of you who have experienced it know what I am talking about. I also use retention enemas with various "formulas" to elicit specific responses from the sub. I learned a lot of these skills on my own; but my education really took a leap 3 years ago when I attended an enema workshop at Black Rose. For those of you who are interested in this, I recommend a pilgrimage to the next Black Rose.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/1/2004 10:59:14 AM   
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I agree with LovingMaster. I am a sub who loves enemas. I do not view them as punishment at all. They are quite intimate to say the least and if an enema is done to a sub usually it will bring the sub much closer to the Dom.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/1/2004 2:09:53 PM   
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LovingMaster,

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For me enema training is NOT about punishment. I do it because I love anal play but I do NOT like shit play. I have some subs who like to do the enema themselves; but most think it is much more personal and gets them into their role much faster if I do the enema. If a sub does not do it well; there is punishment. It usually involves me doing the task that they failed to do properly; then a retention enema which can be seen as REAL punishment. Those of you who have experienced it know what I am talking about. I also use retention enemas with various "formulas" to elicit specific responses from the sub. I learned a lot of these skills on my own; but my education really took a leap 3 years ago when I attended an enema workshop at Black Rose. For those of you who are interested in this, I recommend a pilgrimage to the next Black Rose.


While I posted a thread here a while back on retention enemas I didn't get much response on it. Care to enlighten me or point me to where I might get some info on the subject? Thanks.

Foxer

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/3/2004 1:59:07 PM   
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Bump.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/3/2004 2:32:27 PM   
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This post reminded me of an excellent site I used to have bookmarked. Which I have lost. Anyway, I did a search. Didn't find the site. I'll have to e-mail a friend for it.

Enema's usually cleanse the body. Thinking about them as punishment just doesn't quite seem right.

I did find this informative site to check out though.
http://www.optimalhealthnetwork.com/tek9.asp?pg=enema


How To Take An Enema
By Kristina Amelong, CNC, CT




A good enema program occurs when you are able to infuse enough filtered water into your colon to stimulate peristalsis throughout the entire colon, thus cleansing the entire colon and not just the rectal or sigmoid areas. Once enough water is in the colon, you then expel it, and the resulting waste, into the toilet. You then repeat the process one or two more times. This is similar to a simple enema, except for the volume of water you inject. Most people will find that, when done slowly, they can easily take 1-3 quarts of water.


Enema bags are a perfect tool for putting water into your colon. An enema bag usually holds between 1-6 quarts of water. What follows are some simple guidelines for taking a successful enema series*:

Find a comfortable, warm area where you can lay down; yet, is easy for you to get up from and to easily get to the toilet. The bathroom floor can be ideal due to the proximity of the toilet. Many prefer to take an enema series right in a hot bath tub. In this way, you are more comfortable and relaxed as your body is slightly lifted off the ground. Others prefer to take their enema bag, a Rubber Matt and their IV Stand into their bedroom or sunny living room. Taking an enema in a sunny location is quite therapeutic, especially during the winter months. Try different locations until you find what works for you.

Prepare your first enema solution. Before you fill the bag, make sure the tubing clamp is shut tight so no water spills out as you are filling the bag. Using plain water often works well. The essential oils Peppermint, Frankincense, Fennel, and Lavender (1-3 drops of each) stimulate peristalsis and immune function. You can try them together or individually. I recommend them over soap, but if you want to use soap, use one teaspoon to one tablespoon of Dr. Bonners Hemp Aloe Vera Pure Castile Soap. This will promote a positive musculature response, without chemical exposure, and move your bowels well. Water temperature of 98-103 degrees Fahrenheit is ideal. Hang the bag at least two feet above your body. Some people find that preparing two to three enemas using two to three different enema bags, at the start of the enema series, works best. For this purpose, it is an excellent idea to own an IV Stand.

Use a non-petroleum lubricant. Petroleum products always take a toll on your liver. I like Super Salve the best or a similar plant-based lubricant. I will use the sterile, water soluble lubricating jellies such as KY Jelly or Surgilube. Olive oil and Vitamin E oil also work. Lie on your right side or your back, which ever makes insertion easier for you. Insert the lubricated nozzle. See article about enema equipment to determine which nozzle is right for you.

Make sure you are comfortable and then open the clamp. Keep the clamp in your hand or nearby so you can, without difficulty, control the flow of water into your body. Go slowly! The skill needed for successful colon cleansing is to let only a small amount of water enter your colon at a time. If you add water too quickly, you will stimulate peristaltic action in the sigmoid and the rectum, making it near to impossible to get water into the transverse and ascending colon. If a hint of cramping occurs, immediately stop the flow and relax. Take a big breath and slowly let it out. When there is no more cramping, or 30-60 seconds have passed, resume filling your colon with small amounts of solution until your have taken in 1-3 quarts, or you can no longer tolerate the amount of cramping that is occurring. You do not need to force yourself to withstand any pain. If you were only able to take a pint of solution before you experience consistent cramping, sit on the toilet and let your bowel empty.

It can be helpful to gently massage your abdomen to assist the flow of the enema solution into the entire colon. Massage your colon from the bottom left corner of your abdomen toward your chest, moving the water up the descending colon, then across toward the right, moving the water through the transverse colon and finally down the right side into the ascending colon and the cecum area. Reverse the direction of massage when eliminating the enema solution. At the Optimal Health Center, we use a massage tool called a Percussion Massager. It works wonders. If you have difficulty holding water or eliminating during a colon cleansing treatment, you may also want to try a massager.

Some people find that being on their left or their right side at some point during a session can make a big difference. Give it a try. Turn over onto your left side and, while gently massaging the abdomen, take in more water. This will facilitate filling the entire colon. Others find that lifting the buttocks off the ground with your body propped up on a pillow or using the yoga position of a full shoulder stand (not recommend if you haven’t tried this before) will further move the liquid into your colon. Try to retain the enema for about 5-15 minutes. Sit on the toilet and evacuate whenever you need to.

If you can't take all 2 quarts of water, that's okay. Take only what you can hold comfortably. On the first enema, you are most likely very full in the sigmoid and rectal area. This is where the nerve endings that stimulate peristalsis are so it is very common to only be able to take a small amount of liquid on this first fill. Once you take the nozzle out and sit on the toilet. Make sure you first closed the clamp.

After you have expelled your first enema and most of the fecal matter on the toilet, you will want to repeat the procedure. This time follow the same procedure, but now try to increase the volume of water. With your colon now empty, you will have room for more water. Taking into your colon 1-3 quarts of water is key to an effective enema series. And, take only as much as you can comfortably hold. Do not put yourself in pain that last for more than a couple of passing seconds. Use pain as a guide to what your colon is comfortable with. Again, go slowly. Repeat the enema again, if you have time and are still passing feces.

For the third enema in a series, I recommend that you use a therapeutic substance like Bifidonate or my Olive Oil, Aloe Vera, and MSM implant kit with Peppermint Essential Oil.


With all of this in mind, remember that colon cleansing is a very important tool in health maintenance. I recommend that you start with a program that is easy for you as soon as possible. I think that you will be pleased!

I wish you the best of health!



*Note: Always check with your doctor before doing an enema.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/5/2004 8:32:41 PM   
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I use enemas only for cleaning. I have one slave now, and I am not as demanding on that as I should be.
Enemas can also be used in punishment. A lot of strange things can happen in the shower.
Overall, the enema is a good practice for all just to keep themselves in good hygene.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 12/5/2004 9:47:11 PM   
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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 6/4/2007 5:36:23 PM   
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I would love to find male subs in the southest looking for this kind of training.It is a good practise for reinforcing control and is a good tool for conditioning before ass play.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 6/4/2007 5:48:06 PM   
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Enema training and conditioning for my partner and myself is an intimate experience. Now there can be a little torture involved, like nails on his back or balls, and sucking his cock while he fills and has to hold it even when he cums. Now that makes me smile

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 6/4/2007 8:07:25 PM   
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http://www.enematips.com/

Best site I have found on enemas in the last few years. I have never experienced one as of yet, I have been curious for some time, since anything anal makes me feel very submissive since its very intimate. I think of it as an evasive and controlling act done in a relationship can be a bonding experience. I have heard from people where it was used as a punishment, different forumlas cause various reactions and amounts of pain.

To the OP check out the 'Heath and Saftey' board, lots of things about enemas have been around the last week or so.

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 6/4/2007 9:31:46 PM   
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I don't know about training or conditioning, I usually do an enema as part of my 'getting ready'for a meeting or scene...I did have one Dom use a retention enema on me, after I had already done one hours before...and when things were leaking out,he put on a condom and just used my watery hot liquid soaked ass...sounds disgusting, but I promise it was the hottest sensaion...

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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 6/5/2007 4:36:43 AM   
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Thanks everyone for sharing such great information!  I would like to ask those of you who have experience with enemas where you find your equipment and what type of equipment has worked best for you?
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RE: Enema Training and Conditioning? - 6/5/2007 5:09:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hotwater07

Thanks everyone for sharing such great information!  I would like to ask those of you who have experience with enemas where you find your equipment and what type of equipment has worked best for you?
K



i have had a lot of experience with enemas.  i have never had one as a punishment and i hope i don't but would suffer through it to please.  i have been given one and forced to please someone and until i did i couldn't release.  It was hot! 
 
There are a lot of things you can use to give yourself or someone an enema.  You really should just start out with a basic bag and nozzle and some warm water with a little salt.  If you really enjoy it there are hundreds of nozzles and lots of things you can use in the bag but start slowly and learn what you like and what you don't.
 
i think this type of play can bring people closer together.  If a Dominant does this lovingly and clearly is in control it can be very bonding for two people.

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