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JVoV -> First Republican down (9/11/2015 2:59:28 PM)
From ABC News quote: Rick Perry is calling it quits on his 2016 White House bid. The former Texas governor told the Eagle Forum in St. Louis, Missouri on Friday afternoon that he is suspending his presidential campaign. “We have a tremendous field – the best in a generation – so I step aside knowing our party is in good hands, and as long as we listen to the grassroots, the cause of conservatism will be too.” "That is why today I am suspending my campaign for the presidency of the United States," he said, adding that he has "no regrets" about his run. He also took what appeared to be a veiled swipe at GOP frontrunner Donald Trump. "Demeaning people of Hispanic heritage is not just ignorant, it betrays the example of Christ," he said. In recent weeks, Perry has been particularly vocal in his criticism of the real estate mogul, calling him a "cancer on conservatism." It seems though that Trump has at least buried the hatchet, tweeting today wishing Perry well and that he "will have a great future." "My second warning is this: we cannot indulge nativist appeals that divide the nation further. The answer to our current divider-in-chief is not to elect a Republican divider-in-chief," Perry said, adding that the nominee "must make the case for the cause of conservatism more than the cause of their own celebrity." In August, reports came out about Perry not having enough money to pay his campaign staff. Perry’s campaign chairman Sam Clovis quit from the former Texas governor’s campaign in late August and went to work for Trump. Perry, whose White House bid started on June 4 and lasted 97 days, has been polling in the low single digits throughout his campaign - most recently at 1 percent in the crucial first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa. He was slated to debate for the second time in the lower-tier debate on CNN next week. "The answer to a president nominated for soaring rhetoric and no record is not to nominate a candidate whose rhetoric speaks louder than his record," he said in his speech. "It is not to replicate the Democrat model of selecting a president, falling for the cult of personality over durable life qualities." He also ran in 2012, briefly polling at the top of the pack before falling to eventual nominee Mitt Romney. Fellow 2016 contenders Bobby Jindal and Rick Santorum, both polling in the bottom tier, expressed their support for Perry.

bounty44 -> RE: First Republican down (9/11/2015 3:51:49 PM)
I liked rick perry so in that regard, its sort of a shame, but at the same time, I think there's too many people running and am a little glad for the winnowing. dana perino (major crush) was just suggesting similarly, and that if after the next "debate", the candidates aren't in the top ten, they'd do well to drop out also. greg gutfeld was expressing some dismay at having so many people and not being able to hear what they think more in depth because the coverage is necessarily limited.

BamaD -> RE: First Republican down (9/11/2015 3:56:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 I liked rick perry so in that regard, its sort of a shame, but at the same time, I think there's too many people running and am a little glad for the winnowing. dana perino (major crush) was just suggesting similarly, and that if after the next "debate", the candidates aren't in the top ten, they'd do well to drop out also. greg gutfeld was expressing some dismay at having so many people and not being able to hear what they think more in depth because the coverage is necessarily limited. I preferred Perry to several of the Reps, and I didn't think he did that bad in the first debate, but he was outshown by at least five people and was going to have to show big time in this one to get anywhere, then his support went to other people. It has been clear that he was doomed for at least a couple of weeks. I will be glad when the field narrows.

DaddySatyr -> RE: First Republican down (9/11/2015 4:18:35 PM)
I wasn't a huge fan of Gov. perry in the top spot but I thought (and still think) he'd be a great SoD Michael

BamaD -> RE: First Republican down (9/11/2015 4:45:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I wasn't a huge fan of Gov. perry in the top spot but I thought (and still think) he'd be a great SoD Michael He wasn't my first choice either, I would like to see him in DHS, although I think it should be part of DoD.

joether -> RE: First Republican down (9/11/2015 5:55:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 I liked rick perry so in that regard, its sort of a shame, but at the same time, I think there's too many people running and am a little glad for the winnowing. Mr. Perry is something of an oddity, even for Texas! He has his good points and a few major flubs that cost him his chances the first time around. Apparently, conservatives are more happy about someone with no substance (i.e. Mr. Trump) than Mr. Perry. In a race of so many, Mr. Perry was not in my top three likely candidates to face off to Mrs. Clinton. Before Mr. Trump rose in the race, I was thinking the likely candidate to be Mr. Walker, Mr. Cruz, or Mr. Bush. Now, its just Mr. Trump and Mr. Bush for the nomination. quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 dana perino (major crush) was just suggesting similarly, and that if after the next "debate", the candidates aren't in the top ten, they'd do well to drop out also. Why should anyone drop out? Isn't an American freedom to say you wish to be a US President and why? If they think they have the right ideas for the nation, they should keep up the good fight. All the way to the election! Make seperate political parties if they have to. Better question: Why does a person need a political party to run for President? Couldn't their name appear on a line without some party just under/beside it? (Question is open to anyone, not just Bounty). quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 greg gutfeld was expressing some dismay at having so many people and not being able to hear what they think more in depth because the coverage is necessarily limited. That is just plain bullshit. We have this technology called 'The Internet'. Just google the candidate and look at their website. Here is my issue, that is similar to Mr. Gutfeld, but not due to lack of an internet connection. The candidates themselves do not publish any real solid information. Yes, I understand each of them think immigration sucks. Yet, they do not give a comprehensive idea on how a solution should be shaped. That most of them want a wall between the four southern states and Mexico. How is this wall-system designed? What sort of manpower is needed? How much equipment will be used? How much will this cost to create initially and per year afterward? What is the benefit for the other 46 states? Some of whom share a nation border with Canada? Or those states that handle international shipping like Massachusetts, North Carolina, and Oregon? By this point nearly eight years ago, then Sen. Obama, was giving the nation his ideas on healthcare. There were several ideas floating around as to what all might be included. The ideas had structure to them already. Some were concepts from the GOP just years earlier. Some had their origins from the Democrats. And others were Mr. Obama and/or his supporter's ideas fleshed out. So where is the demand from conservatives towards this candidates to release some solid information? You would have me believe Mr. Trump can not afford a sixty person group to create a prototype immigration and southern border security plan?

thompsonx -> RE: First Republican down (9/11/2015 6:43:26 PM)
quote: greg gutfeld was expressing some dismay at having so many people and not being able to hear what they think more in depth because the coverage is necessarily limited. Perhaps he is illiterate and cannot read. If he could read he could find out what ever he wanted to find out. As dan used to say to jane..."greg, you ignorant slut, who did you sleep with to get this job"?

mnottertail -> RE: First Republican down (9/12/2015 9:29:12 AM)
It was pretty well pre-ordained that the man who singlehandedly brought Ebola to the United States isn't presidential material.

thompsonx -> RE: First Republican down (9/12/2015 12:53:07 PM)
From my reading of history burlap seems to be the material of choice. I remain unconvinced that even that coarse fabric exists in either store. I am still pimping for "none of the above" on the ballot as a method of expanding material choices.

bounty44 -> RE: First Republican down (9/13/2015 4:42:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I wasn't a huge fan of Gov. perry in the top spot but I thought (and still think) he'd be a great SoD Michael He wasn't my first choice either, I would like to see him in DHS, although I think it should be part of DoD. its interesting how so few, if any at all, candidates end up in the next administration in some way.

DaddySatyr -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 4:33:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 its interesting how so few, if any at all, candidates end up in the next administration in some way. Of course, you do know the reason for that? Michael

bounty44 -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 4:44:03 PM)
whatcha thinking?

DaddySatyr -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 4:51:57 PM)
Usually, during the primaries, candidates spend a fair amount of time, running the other candidates down (especially if they have no gravitas of their own). While some "attacks" (debate) are fine and considered par for the course for politics, some of them get down-right nasty. I remember a debate between Reagan and Mondale (not a primary but it offers an example of "fair" debate). Mondale was asked a question and he replied: "Well, one has to be careful, when quoting President Reagan. If you quote him accurately, you are accused of mud-slinging." It was PRICELESS! Unfortunately, I'm also reminded of Mario Cuomo (D), sending vans through New York City neighborhoods with a loud-speaker blaring: "Vote for Cuomo; not the homo!" (referencing Ed Koch {D} who was probably gay). That's an example of why Cuomo never wound up in Koch's administration. Michael

BamaD -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 5:02:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Usually, during the primaries, candidates spend a fair amount of time, running the other candidates down (especially if they have no gravitas of their own). While some "attacks" (debate) are fine and considered par for the course for politics, some of them get down-right nasty. I remember a debate between Reagan and Mondale (not a primary but it offers an example of "fair" debate). Mondale was asked a question and he replied: "Well, one has to be careful, when quoting President Reagan. If you quote him accurately, you are accused of mud-slinging." It was PRICELESS! Unfortunately, I'm also reminded of Mario Cuomo (D), sending vans through New York City neighborhoods with a loud-speaker blaring: "Vote for Cuomo; not the homo!" (referencing Ed Koch {D} who was probably gay). That's an example of why Cuomo never wound up in Koch's administration. Michael Do you remember when they asked Reagan about age? "I will not, for political gain, point out my opponents youth and inexperiance" Even Mondale cracked up.

bounty44 -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 5:03:57 PM)
in my sometimes wishful view of things, I like to think they not only all get along, but all like each other and would be capable of working together to help the country via their conservative principles. maybe too big of egos in the way too... heck I was dismayed when I got older and found out the Cincinnati reds "big red machine" teams from the early 70s didn't all like each other! and that joe DiMaggio and mickey mantle werent friends!

BamaD -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 5:04:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr Usually, during the primaries, candidates spend a fair amount of time, running the other candidates down (especially if they have no gravitas of their own). While some "attacks" (debate) are fine and considered par for the course for politics, some of them get down-right nasty. I remember a debate between Reagan and Mondale (not a primary but it offers an example of "fair" debate). Mondale was asked a question and he replied: "Well, one has to be careful, when quoting President Reagan. If you quote him accurately, you are accused of mud-slinging." It was PRICELESS! Unfortunately, I'm also reminded of Mario Cuomo (D), sending vans through New York City neighborhoods with a loud-speaker blaring: "Vote for Cuomo; not the homo!" (referencing Ed Koch {D} who was probably gay). That's an example of why Cuomo never wound up in Koch's administration. Michael A Democrat campaigning with anti gay slurs? Can't be.

DaddySatyr -> RE: First Republican down (9/14/2015 5:27:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD A Democrat campaigning with anti gay slurs? Can't be. He (Cuomo) disavowed any knowledge of the incident but there were, at least, 6 vans that were used (which suggests a concerted effort) and Cuomo never condemned the act until a few years, later, when he was running for governor. Michael

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