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Real0ne -> Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/25/2015 11:55:52 PM)
Here we go, yet another one. This is occurred in 2009 however its about the attorney's testimony regarding another so called *'terrorist'* attack. The underwear bomber. If there is a bright side to this, at least its a prominent detroit attorney who witnessed and experienced the event and the legal system who is bringing this story to us and putting it out here. Only a few short years ago when regular jo plumber types would bring these issues to the board they were ridiculed into hiding. Now, thankfully, the theme is a matter of federal record, by an officer of the court. [image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/tryanny/haskel.jpg[/image] His story here and a slightly different version here not sure which one is best, the first one I think has a bit more detail, and I believe there are a couple more clips with more details. How did we get to this point? Check out his story and the requirements an 'individual' has to go through to effect change. Comments?

bounty44 -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/26/2015 5:14:40 AM)
i cant watch video realone, do you have maybe a link for a print story? at the same time though, can I tell you, most anything from alex jones is going to be suspect from the start...

hot4bondage -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/26/2015 6:47:39 AM)
Watched the first few minutes. I think the gist of it is that several terrorist plots only got as far as they did with the help of undercover US federal agents. A touchy subject, to say the least. To me, discovering a serious threat and making sure the culprits face long sentences is a good thing. But coaching incompetent thugs until they appear to be a serious threat is something else entirely.

Real0ne -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/27/2015 4:22:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hot4bondage Watched the first few minutes. I think the gist of it is that several terrorist plots only got as far as they did with the help of undercover US federal agents. A touchy subject, to say the least. To me, discovering a serious threat and making sure the culprits face long sentences is a good thing. But coaching incompetent thugs until they appear to be a serious threat is something else entirely. part of the reason I post these things are so interested people can also see how the actual mechanics of these events take shape and who the actual players are without the need to do a lifetime of research since there are people who have already done that. All you need do is play it while you shower or clean the house or do some other no brain mundane activity. Well no, unfortunately as I started alluding to above the gist of it is that someone in conjunction with the government or definitely with government and media umbrella actually orchestrates these terror attacks, which just happen to make people piles of money and convert our nation into a 'total' police state for profit and power. (theirs) Standard blame the patsy. ....and the real problem here is that unless people take the time to fully understand the paradigm they could be the next victim in the worng place at the wrong time just like this attorney was. Do you have any idea what this level of betrayal feels like? Why do you think this is a touchy subject?

Real0ne -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/27/2015 4:43:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 i cant watch video realone, do you have maybe a link for a print story? at the same time though, can I tell you, most anything from alex jones is going to be suspect from the start... I dont know what you mean by "from alex jones", this is 'from' Kurt Haskell the attorney featured above. alex jones is just a highly opinionated alternative news source who imo is a drama queen but he does a very good job of rooting out government corruption if one can look past his antics. lol I suppose I could go on pacer and see what can be found there but not sure that would be of any interest to anyone here. The only thing I run across in the way of a transcript is their blog site in which they do seem to have some links to follow. quote: 3. The FBI visited my office on December 29, 2009, and showed me a series of approximately 10 photographs. None were of the SDM. I asked the FBI if they brought the Amsterdam security video to help me identify the SDM, but they acted as though my request was ridiculous. The FBI asked me what accent the SDM spoke in and I indicated that he had an American accent similar to my own. I further indicated that he wore a tan suit without a tie, was Indian looking, around age 50, 6'0" tall and 250-260 lbs. I further indicated that I did not believe that he was an airline employee and that he was not on our flight. 4. During the first week of January, 2010, Dutch Military Police and the FBI indicated that over "200 Hours" of Amsterdam airport security video had been reviewed and it "Shows Nothing". http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/01/truth-about-flight-253-has-been.html Ironically a similar situation happened to me where a 3rd party had the perps on cam, and I gave the police all the info, and they didnt even bother to check it.

Real0ne -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/27/2015 10:34:45 PM)
here are a couple more links to more stuff from their website. http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/02/interesting-note-to-todays-cnn-article.html http://haskellfamily.blogspot.com/2010/01/update-on-flight-253-conversation-with.html he talks about the cnn interview...... *very* interesting!

MrRodgers -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/29/2015 12:13:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 i cant watch video realone, do you have maybe a link for a print story? at the same time though, can I tell you, most anything from alex jones is going to be suspect from the start... Simply because of the value of the lies, a whole lot less suspect than most anything the US govt./US mainstream media puts out there. Any of it and since 1980.

bounty44 -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/29/2015 2:05:31 PM)
alex jones is a sort of quasi news charlatan... thank you realone for the links... I think im piecing the story together, along with from what h4b said.... but help me out and let me know if I got it right---that the underwear bomber was under government surveillance, and could have been picked up prior his attempt coming to a head, but the agent(s) were waiting in order to catch him more definitively? or that they were caught by surprise themselves? or what?

Real0ne -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/29/2015 5:53:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 alex jones is a sort of quasi news charlatan... thank you realone for the links... I think im piecing the story together, along with from what h4b said.... but help me out and let me know if I got it right---that the underwear bomber was under government surveillance, and could have been picked up prior his attempt coming to a head, but the agent(s) were waiting in order to catch him more definitively? or that they were caught by surprise themselves? or what? Alex Jones is not the one who did any talking, nor was he the witness, nor did he make statements in court. This has nothing to do with Alex Jones. This is about Kurt Haskell and his wife Lori Haskell both highly respected attorneys, both who were witnesses, victims, and did make statements in court. There was nothing to pick the kid up for, he is the son of an african banker. A government agent got him on to the plane. I forgot to post the rest of the links that makes the story more clear. Do these help better put it into perspective? http://www.thegovernmentrag.com/underwear_bomber_set_to_call_truther_lawyer_in_trial%20.html http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread810194/pg1 http://ariwatch.com/Links/KurtHaskellCourtStatement.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/underwear-bomber-guilty-plea-shields-government-complicity.html http://archive.freep.com/article/20111012/NEWS02/111012020/U-S-Underwear-bomber-s-guilty-plea-proves-terrorism-should-fought-courts https://web.archive.org/web/20120320031408/http://www.mystreamingserver.com/Archives/KurtHaskell021810.mp3 http://www.worldaffairsbrief.com/pdfbrief/World%20Affairs%20Brief%204%20February%202011.pdf http://archive.freep.com/article/20120216/NEWS01/120216032/Sentencing-underwear-bomber-Umar-Farouk-Abdulmutallab

bounty44 -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/29/2015 6:26:43 PM)
my statement about alex jones was in response to the poster (mrRodgers) above me who seemed to be somewhat supporting the fellow... thank you for finding all that...im off now but will do the reading later.

MrRodgers -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (4/30/2015 12:03:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 alex jones is a sort of quasi news charlatan... thank you realone for the links... I think im piecing the story together, along with from what h4b said.... but help me out and let me know if I got it right---that the underwear bomber was under government surveillance, and could have been picked up prior his attempt coming to a head, but the agent(s) were waiting in order to catch him more definitively? or that they were caught by surprise themselves? or what? Actually my first question is just who was the man who helped get the 'suspect' on the plane without a passport ? What was so important that [he] get on the plane in the first place. What was his ('Indian' guy's) ID and background and on whose behalf was he acting to even try to get anyone on an international flight...without a passport.

Real0ne -> RE: Geeezus I'm getting sick of this. (5/3/2015 9:31:07 PM)
What I found very interesting is that the man told the attendant that they do it routinely!

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