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Sanity -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/15/2015 7:23:31 AM)

"The authors test the hypothesis that low-effort thought promotes political conservatism."

So you found a couple of leftist authors who are proud to be bigots, that wasnt much of a chore




Lucylastic -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/15/2015 7:46:21 AM)

lol where is that coming from....hahahhahahha published by an arkansas university, and you put it down to leftist bigotted authors, I bet without even looking at it,
dispute their methodology or the results,
or not.
credibility is out of the realm of possibility in any other response from you.




Sanity -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/15/2015 10:00:48 AM)


FR

We are all Persians now

quote:

As nuke talks intensify, WH celebrates Iranian holiday

The festivities come amid tense negotiations between the White House and Tehran. President Obama hopes Iran will slow or stop its nuclear weapons program in exchange for removing economic sanctions.

First Lady Michelle Obama praised the holiday in remarks at the executive mansion Wednesday. The event featured a Persian dinner and a dance troop’s performance.

“I think it’s so fitting we’re holding this celebration here today,” Michelle Obama said. “One of the things I love about the White House is how it truly is the people’s house. It is a house that reflects the diversity of culture and traditions that make us who we are as a country. Nowruz is one of those traditions.”


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tweakabelle -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/15/2015 12:06:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

wonderfully good in its timing, there is this:

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/201314/ (there is a youtube video link there)

of course, bill whittle and Andrew klavan could be ignorant and idiotic too...


"PJTV viewer "Digging4Information" asks Andrew Klavan & Bill Whittle about Nazis and Fascists. He asks why both are presented in the media as "right-wing" when both Nazis and Fascists had socialist roots. Klavan and Whittle wonder whether nazism and fascism might be more similar to today's similar to today's progressive movement in the Democratic Party than to modern conservatism."



Here's the full paragraph with the bit you omitted to quote in your post:

"PJTV viewer "Digging4Information" asks Andrew Klavan & Bill Whittle about Nazis and Fascists. He asks why both are presented in the media as "right-wing" when both Nazis and Fascists had socialist roots. Klavan and Whittle wonder whether nazism and fascism might be more similar to today's progressive movement in the Democratic Party than to modern conservatism. Does President Obama have more in common with Mussolini than Thomas Jefferson? Find out.
Category Comedy
Licence Standard YouTube Licence"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzA7QomW4kY&feature=youtu.be

Pay special attention to the bit at the end where it says "Category Comedy"

Have you evidence that your claim has anything other than comedic value? We already know it's laughable - I said that in my first post on your claim.




Politesub53 -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/15/2015 5:53:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

I am looking in my big fat adolf hitler book, the definitive work on him by john toland. maybe it will help to hear in hitler's own words:

We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions”

pp. 224–225

looks similar to the left to me...




Does your "definitive work" give you any idea of what hitler was actually up to, while he was trying to secure support from German Workers ?

quote:

Even Wiki seems more definitive than your "definitive work"

The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both internationalist Marxist socialism and free market capitalism. This required a Volksgemeinschaft or "people's community" of all Germans. It rejected the Marxist concept of class struggle, opposed ideas of equality and international solidarity, and sought to defend private property.


Carry on with your ignorance and sorry to ruin your enjoyment ~~ Maggie Thatcher.




bounty44 -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/18/2015 5:36:59 AM)

one can "redefine" socialism in a variety of ways, but at its essence, its difference to Marxism notwithstanding, its still socialism and as I have pointed out before (and other "idiotic and ignorant" people agree) it is in many regards very similar to leftist ideology.

if you want to contend I am wrong, then you'd need to elucidate how the many points of the NSDAP platform I posted are indeed different from today's leftists.









Politesub53 -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/18/2015 4:28:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: bounty44

one can "redefine" socialism in a variety of ways, but at its essence, its difference to Marxism notwithstanding, its still socialism and as I have pointed out before (and other "idiotic and ignorant" people agree) it is in many regards very similar to leftist ideology.

if you want to contend I am wrong, then you'd need to elucidate how the many points of the NSDAP platform I posted are indeed different from today's leftists.


From a man who claims not to read every post on the forum (I guess that allows you a get out clause huh) you expect an awful lot of others.

The problem with many Americans is they havent got a clue what socialism or marxism is and just keep Trotskying out the same tired mantra. You are worse because I gave you a heads up when you claimed Hitler was socialist, and posted the same tired shit I have quoted here, to try and prove a point.








tweakabelle -> RE: Iran Offers to Mediate Talks Between Republicans and Obama (3/19/2015 3:04:30 AM)

His problem appears to be that he judges politicians on their election promises (regardless of whether those promises are actually fulfilled or not) and ignores what the same politicians actually did.

According to his own account, his whole understanding of the alleged connection between Nazi ideology and leftist ideologies is based on a few points in the Nazi electoral promises, while he ignores what both the Nazis and the Left did consistently whenever and wherever they encountered each other ie. they did their best to annihilate each other all over the world during the course of the last and current centuries. When asked to supply supporting evidence from an independent respected political analyst, the only thing he could come up with was a comedy act (how very apt!)

It's about as dumb (or laughable if you prefer) a method of evaluating things as judging commercial products solely on their advertising claims and ignoring their actual performance. Anyone who adopted this idiotic approach in real life would soon end up bankrupt. 'Idiotic', 'laughable' and 'bankrupt' are the accurate and correct terms to describe bounty's attempts at political analysis, which we might describe as the advertising jingle approach to political analysis/science.




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