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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:08:58 PM

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hey Level.....

"If a person of one gender has sex with another person of that gender, they are at the very least doing a bisexual act... and are bisexual as far as I'm concerned. "

Bi-sexual act. That's a good way to put it.....!!!

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:10:24 PM

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can the same sex "play" sexually with eachother & not be Bi???

If a person who lives in the city comes to the farm for the weekend and helps while they are there make them a farmer?

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:11:15 PM

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I am physically and emotionally attracted to both genders. In my mind, that makes me bi.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:14:13 PM

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what is YOUR definition of Bi(bisexual)?????

A people person!

Gender doesn't matter to me to be able to engage in intimate sexual relationships. It doesn't mean I need to have both a man and a woman in my life to be happy. One or the other works for me. Right now, it's a man.. my last serious relationship before this was with a woman.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:15:13 PM

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If you look in the dictionary under the word"bisexual" you will see my picture. It's what I am and have been for as long as I can remember.

I have an attraction to both sexes. I can either have sex with them or not..that is not what makes you a bisexual. Contrary to popular belief..we are not having huge orgies all the time..we do the same things with either sex..that most straight people do. We spend time together.. laugh..cry..do fun things...go to movies..travel..etc.

I think there is a difference between someone that has sex with the same sex just for the pleasure of another watching...sort of a public show..and someone like me, that lives this as part of their life whether anyone is looking or not.

I find many things wonderful about both men and women. I don't really think.. oh, he is a guy.. or she is a girl.. I think..this is a really cool person that I would like to get to know better. In that way, I am very lucky.. I have double the chance of finding someone to spend my life with. Don't get me wrong.. I love the cut of a mans jaw... or the curve of a womans hip...but there is so much more to it than that.

Does being straight mean you have to have sex with the opposite sex? No. So, why would being bisexual mean you had to have sex with the same sex?

I have neither right now.. a man or a woman..but I am will be no less bisexual tomorrow when I wake up..than I would be if I woke up next to a woman.

I guess there are two versions of bisexuals in this world the "Girls Gone Wild" version..and me.. it's up to the individual person..which they think is the "true" version.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:27:49 PM

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A label in this case seems to cause more confussion then clearity. I have been Owned by Masters who have used me sexually. I have been owned by Mistresses who enjoyed having 2 male slaves together sexually. I put bisexual on my profile becaause I am willing, Outside of D/s relationships I don't look for sex with men. Am I bisexual? Does it matter?

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 7:55:37 PM

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I think the real problem is to many binary labels e.g straight, gay, dom, sub. Even if you add intermediate labels e.g. bi, switch. You are being too simplistic. In terms of sexual orientation I prefer the Kinsey scale 0 is completely straight and 6 is completely gay. If you score yourself a 3 I guess that would be honestly bi. I score myself a 1 at the present. In that for the most part I am attracted to woman. I might have a few homosexual fantasies, and now have a transvestite male friend I am rather attracted to if he is cross dressed. So much is really dependent on the people you meet and how the sexual and power dynamic works for you. It is simpler not be hung up on labels and look at the character of the individual relationships and not worry too much about what other people think.

I think you will be more relaxed about your sexuality and think about it in these terms.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 8:48:41 PM

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Why are bisexuals always looking for the same sex partner.. doesn't that make them Gay?

Because the generalization that we are isn't true. I currently don't have a female sex partner...I have a male. Does that automatically make me het? No...and neither does me looking for a female partner make me a lesbian.

Master Fire

What I have expereienced is that women will be hooked up with a male.. and then constantly looking for a female partner/slave/sub what have you.

Can a bi-sexual ever be satified? Do you find Bi-sexuality more acceptable in females than males?

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 9:05:07 PM

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Why are bisexuals always looking for the same sex partner.. doesn't that make them Gay?

Because the generalization that we are isn't true. I currently don't have a female sex partner...I have a male. Does that automatically make me het? No...and neither does me looking for a female partner make me a lesbian.

Master Fire

Can a bi-sexual ever be satified? Do you find Bi-sexuality more acceptable in females than males?

If your partner/husband/wife/whatever has brown hair..but you kinda have a thing for blondes too..does that mean you have to have a blonde on the side?

I am with the person I am with because I care about them..not because they are either a man or woman. If I love them and want to build something with them..I will not need anyone else in my life. Again, it's not all about the sex.. it's about having the ability to love someone in spite of theirs.

I think that men do have a harder time in general. The reason being..that most men don't have a problem with two chicks making out..but the thought of two men..well..it's a touchy thing. The bi man has to find that balance..and try to fit in. I think that the same goes for gay men.. it's a bit of a harder road to travel sometimes.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 10:35:56 PM

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Anyone in the middle "Kinsey" spectrum who is comfortable sexually with members of either sex, to a greater or lesser degree.

I was a full bi-sexual -- no particular preference in regards to gender whatsoever. These days, I'm more neuter, I think -- though sex still may have a place in my life, it is such a small place that I haven't really thought about whether I'm interested in men or women -- I'm -more- interested in writing, counseling, training, family.

SR is bi, but her general sexual preference is towards men. She says she's really only ever been interested in one woman sexually -- but that still makes her bi.

Any time that there is sexual interest in both genders, no matter the extent, and no matter whether it is acted on or not, it is still bi.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 10:50:14 PM

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I am physically and sexually attracted to men. I can appreciate a good looking woman but have no sexual connection. I have been with women, always at the request of a Dom. I don't consider myself bi or a lesbian. Left on my own, i would choose dick every time...but never say never

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 10:51:32 PM

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can the same sex "play" sexually with eachother & not be Bi???

Yes

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/14/2006 10:54:45 PM

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What I have expereienced is that women will be hooked up with a male.. and then constantly looking for a female partner/slave/sub what have you.

Can a bi-sexual ever be satified? Do you find Bi-sexuality more acceptable in females than males?

I actually find this kind of sentiment quite rude. SR and I have been together for more than a decade, in a committed relationship. We had two male partners, who have since died, and haven't really gone looking for any more since. We've met a few, but frankly, LEB and PDB (both bi, and all four of us in a closed, committed relationship) set a standard that nobody since has been able to match, and the encounters never went beyond one or two dates.

We have servants, who come here to serve without any sexual component to their service. Like a fine ladies' maid or butler, they provide exemplary service (or are taught to do so if they do not know how), but that service is not sexual.

I am bisexual. I am also a monk. I spent years learning disciplines that enable me to either express or re-direct my sexuality. At the moment, I am channeling all of my energy into the books and workshop I am writing with a co-author, and into my schooling and supporting my mate in -her- schooling, and caring for our family. This is probably not a lot different than your situation, in dealing with -your- mate.

SR is bisexual, but her primary interest, sexually, is men. Even with that, she doesn't go looking for a male partner. The few who have come looking for her haven't been able to grasp that she and I are in a committed relationship, and to take one of us is to take both of us (one even saying "yes, I understand completely -- we'll get her a nice apartment, and you can come live with me in my beachhouse... sheesh!). Needless to say, she's thrown them back like the poor catch they were... without me even having to say a word. If she wanted an outside lover, I wouldn't care. After all, I love her, and have no fear about her love for me -- but -she- chooses, time after time (she is an attractive woman) to make what -we- have her priority.

Yes, if someone or someones incredible came along who fit well in our family, and whom SR and I could both cherish the way we cherished PDB and LEB, we'd certainly welcome them. But we're not out cruising the bars for guys -- nor even spending a lot of time worrying about the ones outside of bars. We are ladies, first, and committed to one another and our family first.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 12:50:19 AM

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what is YOUR definition of Bi(bisexual)?????

Bi sexual - Someone who permanently owns their sex.

As opposed to rent-sexual or lease-sexual who can move out on their sex or turn it back in and get a new one every couple of years.

There are also try-sexuals, who seem to be fond of getting the free samples or taking sex out for a test drive, but won't actually spend any money on it....

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 4:51:48 AM

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What I have expereienced is that women will be hooked up with a male.. and then constantly looking for a female partner/slave/sub what have you.

This is predominant in the het community, usually. If a female is looking for another female in the het community, we spend more time looking for a bi/lesbian female than a straight male, just due to the numbers. Works the opposite in the lesbian community.

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Can a bi-sexual ever be satified?

Why wouldn't we be satisfied? Frankly, it's a silly question and seems to be based on the notion that bi people are all indecisive, sex-crazy sluts who will sleep with anything resembling human. While some bi people are sex-crazy, as are some het, gay and lesbian people, bi people are looking for real relationships, too.

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Do you find Bi-sexuality more acceptable in females than males?

In the het community, yes...because het porn is all about two or more women doing each other. Here is we're teaching that bi-fems are sex-crazed sluts. We're also teaching that being a bi-fem is not only hot, but totally acceptable (because if she's bi, the guy will get a three-some, right? (NO!!)). This used to piss me off about my ex-husband; apparently FF interactions are just hot while MM actions are against the Lord's wishes...at least for him. He couldn't see his own double standard.

In the lesbian and gay communities, from the time I've spent there, bi people are seen much the same way: indecisive and just looking to get laid all the time. Not necessarily true there either.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 4:55:39 AM

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If a person of one gender has sex with another person of that gender, and they are sexual with the opposite gender, they are at the very least doing a bisexual act... and are bisexual as far as I'm concerned.

If a woman consents to sex in order to make a rape less violent, was she attracted to or in love with the rapist? No.

Acts don't define the situation.

Master Fire

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 4:55:43 AM

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Well, I guess one could say, "Master made me do it, but I didn't really like it" and excuse what Level calls a bisexual act and I bet some have, but I'm thinkin...if you engage, you are.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 5:12:27 AM

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can the same sex "play" sexually with eachother & not be Bi???

Yes!

My reasoning is that if you are at gun point forced to commit a sexual act with a member of the same sex and it is against your will, you can not be considered to be bi-sexual. the same argument applies when a sub/slave has sex with another sub/slave or any other person of the same sex because he or she is ordered to by some one who the sub/slave believes and acepts to have executive authority over him or her.

I posit that there are several stages to be considered:

Hetrosexual = Has nodesire to have any sexual contact with members of the same sex.
Bi Curious = A person who is curious about their sexuality regarding having sex with another of the same sex. This may be because to natural curiosity, it may be because of peer pressure or simply because they believe it to be cool to experiment.
Limited Bi-sexual = A person who can enjoy or accept limited sexual contact with another person of the same sex. This may be in the terms of for example not allowing any contact with the other person's penis with their mouth or anus. It is in fact a restricted contact. It also could be that the person is willing to participate with sexual congress of some nature with another person of the same sex to please a partner (possibly a threesome), and yet there is no driving desire to have sex with members of the same sex.
Bi-sexial = A person who has a desire to participate in sex with a person of the same sex and yet also has a desire to have sex with members of the opposite sex.
Homosexual/Lesbian = A person who exclusively desires sex with same sex. I.E. Has no sexual interest in the opposite sex.

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 5:45:32 AM

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omg that is too funny...thanks

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RE: to Bi or not to Bi...that is the question... - 7/15/2006 5:47:57 AM

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If a person of one gender has sex with another person of that gender, and they are sexual with the opposite gender, they are at the very least doing a bisexual act... and are bisexual as far as I'm concerned.

If a woman consents to sex in order to make a rape less violent, was she attracted to or in love with the rapist? No.

Acts don't define the situation.

Master Fire

Consentual acts do.

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