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Sanity -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 8:23:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy It might help if you actually met some of these aspiring immigrants instead of regarding them as a scourge to your own sensibilities. Democrat policies dont help the poor or minorities, the opposite is true Leftists act as the crack dealer, where government (taxpayer) handouts are the drug, and votes are the currency The first week is free, after that payment is required

mnottertail -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 9:09:39 AM)
A misguided bill in the furtherance of bigger and costlier government. Jail and fine the corporations and the owners. End of illegal aliens.

BamaD -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 9:33:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy It might help if you actually met some of these aspiring immigrants instead of regarding them as a scourge to your own sensibilities. It might help if you actually met some others among them instead of regarding them as the salvation of our society. CD had a good question what do you tell the ones who have followed the rules when people who have violated the laws get bumped ahead of them?

CreativeDominant -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 9:38:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy It might help if you actually met some of these aspiring immigrants instead of regarding them as a scourge to your own sensibilities. So we can learn how to be criminals? I'd rather meet the ones trying LEGALLY, thanks.

BamaD -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 9:43:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy It might help if you actually met some of these aspiring immigrants instead of regarding them as a scourge to your own sensibilities. So we can learn how to be criminals? I'd rather meet the ones trying LEGALLY, thanks. I used to work for a legal immigrant. He was hard working and, with another guy, founded his own business. He doesn't count though because A He was legal B He was Canadian.

KenDckey -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 10:08:16 AM)
I was married to a legal alien. Took months to go through the process. In the meantime we were seperated by the Atlantic Ocean, the continental US and about half of europe. But we did it the legal way.

BamaD -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 10:22:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey I was married to a legal alien. Took months to go through the process. In the meantime we were seperated by the Atlantic Ocean, the continental US and about half of europe. But we did it the legal way. That explains why you don't want a free pass for illegals.

GoddessManko -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 11:00:27 AM)
To be honest, if the government is going to deport migrants, whether by revoking status or because they already are out of status they might as well do it. Immigration laws are not designed to keep people out but to keep them in. I think if many are legalized you will see an exodus unless people are business owners/own property here. They mostly stay due to their families. But if you are illegal you are not eligible for government benefits, driver's license or even ability to work. In that status and having sole custody of an American born child you're not allowed to leave the country or sometimes the state with unless you get the permission of the court leaves you in a cache 22. It is a situation where no matter which direction you move you will break the law in some way. It is way more complicated than most people think. If they deport the illegals, those parents do not have allowance to leave with their children. But at least they are not criminalized as a parent, but rather as an illegal, thereafter the state/taxpayers will takeover care of that child.

cadenas -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 11:12:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey I was married to a legal alien. Took months to go through the process. In the meantime we were seperated by the Atlantic Ocean, the continental US and about half of europe. But we did it the legal way. Then you got the red carpet treatment and had a lot of luck. Two friends of mine also did the marriage thing, and it took them about five years each. For scientists and engineers, it takes about ten years. For some other groups, the legal way takes up to 25 years. And the vast majority of people need not apply because no matter how long they wait, they won't be eligible.

Aylee -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 1:02:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessManko To be honest, if the government is going to deport migrants, whether by revoking status or because they already are out of status they might as well do it. Immigration laws are not designed to keep people out but to keep them in. I think if many are legalized you will see an exodus unless people are business owners/own property here. They mostly stay due to their families. But if you are illegal you are not eligible for government benefits, driver's license or even ability to work. In that status and having sole custody of an American born child you're not allowed to leave the country or sometimes the state with unless you get the permission of the court leaves you in a cache 22. It is a situation where no matter which direction you move you will break the law in some way. It is way more complicated than most people think. If they deport the illegals, those parents do not have allowance to leave with their children. But at least they are not criminalized as a parent, but rather as an illegal, thereafter the state/taxpayers will takeover care of that child. There is no law and no government agency that mandates that the children of illegals must be left behind. The only reason that they would not be able to is if they did not have custody.

DesideriScuri -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 1:54:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cadenas quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey I was married to a legal alien. Took months to go through the process. In the meantime we were seperated by the Atlantic Ocean, the continental US and about half of europe. But we did it the legal way. Then you got the red carpet treatment and had a lot of luck. Two friends of mine also did the marriage thing, and it took them about five years each. For scientists and engineers, it takes about ten years. For some other groups, the legal way takes up to 25 years. And the vast majority of people need not apply because no matter how long they wait, they won't be eligible. Unless you have a lot of money to invest... The whole system needs to be reformed to make it easier to get in, and to increase the number of people who are allowed in. It still needs to be illegal to not go through the process, and those who flout those laws should be held accountable.

KenDckey -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 2:05:12 PM)
Didn't receive the red carpet treatment, not rich, did go thru the legal process a long time ago. Have worked for and with a lot of legal aliens. I believe in the rule of law and not the rewarding of those that violate it.

GoddessManko -> RE: Interior Enforcement Bill (3/2/2015 4:30:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aylee There is no law and no government agency that mandates that the children of illegals must be left behind. The only reason that they would not be able to is if they did not have custody. LMAO, really? Wow, do a teensy weensy bit of research before having such a passionate stance about it.

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