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Marini -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/30/2014 11:28:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

Watch the movie Marini and you will see my point and probably get some laughs out of it too. Peter Sellers played about 5 parts in it as I remember, so that will give you an idea of what it was about *smile*.


Ahh Peter Sellers was certainly not as celebrated as he should have been.
I have seen bits and pieces of it, I will keep an eye out for it.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 12:00:16 AM)

to give you a hint.........a country the size of Essex UK invade the US without the US knowing and they (the invaders) get their hands on a new bomb called the Q Bomb.....................it can destroy the world a dozen times over and every country has to bend the knee to Gallardia because of fear of what the bomb can or will do. Peace come to the world.
The punch line is that the bomb doesn't work but only two people know that and they promise each other not to tell *smile*




NorthernGent -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 2:15:34 AM)

I'd like to see England, finally, after all these years; begin to keep out of other people's business, including anything to do with terrorists, would-be terrorists, phantom terrorists and any other possible form of Terrorism.

I applaud the government for trying to get to grips with the 'obesity' issue we have in England, and hope they make some significant inroads.

But, the main thing I'd like to see is a reversal of the cultural values in today's England. It's not working for us. Clearly, this sort of thing takes decades so I might not be around to see it.

Oh, and it seems a while since one of our politicians was caught in some dungeon somewhere with Miss Whiplash. An unusually long period of time. Perhaps they're a bit better at keeping a lid on things these days. I'm hoping for some scandal to liven things up a bit.

Best of luck to everyone for the New Year.




DesideriScuri -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 5:14:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini
Happy New Year!
With a New Year coming in about 24 hours, welcome 2015!!!!,
I was wondering what politics/ or political wishes, desires, or predictions do you have?
I have many political wishes and desires.
1. I will start by saying, I would like to see more cohesiveness among the political parties, and I would like to see more grass roots organizations coming forward and challenging the status quo.
2. I would love to see the creation of a really viable 3rd party, but I doubt that will happen any time soon.
Regardless of your political party, most people want what is best for their country.
We may not always agree on the road we need to take to get there.
3. I would love to see a global effort from countries all over the world, to step up and become actively involved in fighting terrorism, acts of terrorism and terrorists.
I realize every country does not have a large amount of resources, citizenry, money or troops to send, but every country should make the effort to do whatever they can do, because at the end of the day, terrorism does and will effect everyone in the world.
Please don't use this thread to continue the never ending partisan bashing, that is already taking place on 90% of the other threads on here.
I have many other wishes and desires, but I am curious to see what other people will say.
Political wishes, desires or predictions, anyone?
Happy New Year to Everyone!


Predictions: Congress will pass more legislation. President Obama will veto it. Republicans will be blamed for a "do-nothing" Congress because they don't pass legislation the President will sign.

Hopes: I hope I'm wrong. [:D]

Wishes: See my sig line below...

Best wishes for a safe and happy celebration, and the most prosperous and fulfilling year ever in 2015 to everyone!




Zonie63 -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 7:44:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Marini

I have many other wishes and desires, but I am curious to see what other people will say.
Political wishes, desires or predictions, anyone?

Happy New Year to Everyone!


In the area of foreign policy, it would be desirable if the powers that be would leave behind their Cold War era thinking. It won't change the world, but it will change our perception of it, which will allow us to formulate a more coherent foreign policy.

That's part of the problem that we face: Too many people seem to want to cling to and live in the past, which has made us ill-equipped to face the future. (And when I say "the past," I refer to an imagined, mythic past, not the actual historical reality.) We need to move forward and eschew all those sacred cows which hold us back, keep us from progressing, allowing other countries to overtake and surpass us in many key areas. We need to avoid the arrogant, excessively proud, overconfident attitude which only serves to compel us to sit back and rest on our laurels. We need to avoid intransigent and inflexible thinking brought on by unreasonable adherence to tradition, ideology, and our ways of doing things because "this is the way we've always done it."

We need to look to take a good, hard, honest look at ourselves - who we are, where we've been, where we're going, and how we're going to get there - as well as a good, honest look at the world around us and our overall role in the world. That's what seems to be missing in the public debate overall on any number of issues.

We just seem to live from crisis to crisis, viewing them as separate, disconnected, and completely random events, while few people actually try to sit down and try to figure out just what in the hell is going on in this country and in the world as a whole. Our adversarial political/legal system is designed so that winning the argument and/or winning the election becomes the primary focus. "Winning is everything," even if it doesn't really change anything or make the country any better.

I think that mentality has led to a lot of the factionalism and entrenchment which seems to be the norm in politics. While that's generally always the case in politics, there have been notable times throughout our history when different factions have been able to compromise and focus on the greater good of the country. So, maybe that's one hope or wish I have for the coming year. I wish the politicians and others at that level would just stop the political posturing, all the ideological grandstanding, and all their other puffed-up, self-serving bullshit - and get back to the business of running the country.





defiantbadgirl -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 12:40:54 PM)

My political wishes:

1. Raise the minimum wage to $15/hr. I know some people think that will only result in prices increasing to the point that it won't matter, but if that's true, why was there a time when one job could easily support a family?

2. Implement a maximum wage so companies have to share a larger percentage of profits with workers.

3. Either separate health insurance from employment and add a public option or go single-payer. Linking health insurance to employment gives businesses too much incentive to off-shore jobs. Deductibles and annual maximums on employer provided health insurance are not income based. Deductibles and annual maximums on the exchange are income based. Linking health insurance to employment is not helpful to full-time low income workers because if the employer offers insurance, even though it's not income based, the worker is ineligible for subsidies. Also, the 9.5% affordability only counts the employee's portion of the premium, not their family and it does not count deductibles or annual maximums.

4. Spend tax dollars on the American people, not on foreign aid.

5. Get out of these free trade deals that result in jobs being sent overseas.




kdsub -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 4:42:28 PM)

Something else I don't understand... the resistance to a mandated living wage... I don't know about everyone else but I would be perfectly willing to pay 25 cents more for a hamburger if i knew the person serving me could live on their wage.

Hell we are paying that 25 cents in taxes for food stamps and such anyway... why make it hard on those trying to work and make a living? We can't all afford to go to college and there are just not that many jobs out there outside of service.... We can help each other out without reverting to socialism. What happened to charity in America?

Butch






Dvr22999874 -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 4:52:24 PM)

NorthernGent.................Did you read that Mandy Rice Davis just died recently.................now THERE was a scandal to rattle the bones in the closets *smile*.
What cultural vales did you mean NG ? I have to tell you that I agree with your other points and I wish Australia would do the same.




Politesub53 -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 4:58:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

Oh, and it seems a while since one of our politicians was caught in some dungeon somewhere with Miss Whiplash. An unusually long period of time. Perhaps they're a bit better at keeping a lid on things these days. I'm hoping for some scandal to liven things up a bit.

Best of luck to everyone for the New Year.



While I am hoping to get caught with Miss Whiplash........ errr and her mates..... [8D]

Hopefully there will be an end to the greed/political violence in the world. Sadly I dont see it happening in my lifetime.


Happy new year to all.




tweakabelle -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (12/31/2014 6:52:47 PM)

I would love to see an outbreak of universal peace and justice in 2015. I expect to be disappointed.

The perennial flashpoint of the Middle East will continue to be mired in violence and turmoil. The thugs of IS might experience a few reversals but anyone hoping for their complete elimination won't have their hopes fulfilled. Syria will continue to be torn apart as the Great Powers continue to use it as playground for their power games. Israel will continue to steal the West Bank, possibly annexing some of it as it maintains its disdain for any kind of negotiated peace or international law. While the Taliban may take control of Afghanistan during the year, the likelihood is that we will have to wait until 2016 for the Taliban's complete victory.

The optimist in me hopes that my expectations will turn out to be utterly and completely wrong. The realist in me tells me that this is unlikely.

Happy New Year to one and all. May all your desires become realised, and a little bit extra too - coz those little bits extra are often the best bits!




Marini -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/1/2015 11:45:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

I would love to see an outbreak of universal peace and justice in 2015. I expect to be disappointed.

The perennial flashpoint of the Middle East will continue to be mired in violence and turmoil. The thugs of IS might experience a few reversals but anyone hoping for their complete elimination won't have their hopes fulfilled. Syria will continue to be torn apart as the Great Powers continue to use it as playground for their power games. Israel will continue to steal the West Bank, possibly annexing some of it as it maintains its disdain for any kind of negotiated peace or international law. While the Taliban may take control of Afghanistan during the year, the likelihood is that we will have to wait until 2016 for the Taliban's complete victory.

The optimist in me hopes that my expectations will turn out to be utterly and completely wrong. The realist in me tells me that this is unlikely.

Happy New Year to one and all. May all your desires become realised, and a little bit extra too - coz those little bits extra are often the best bits!


I would also LOVE to see an "outbreak" of Universal peace and justice in 2015
We can certainly dream!
Thank you all for sharing the great wishes and desires.
We can only hope some of these dreams come true!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!




MrRodgers -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/1/2015 8:43:38 PM)

Hell, I am going to not worry, be happy and make it...to 2016




NorthernGent -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/3/2015 5:05:25 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dvr22999874

NorthernGent.................Did you read that Mandy Rice Davis just died recently.................now THERE was a scandal to rattle the bones in the closets *smile*.
What cultural vales did you mean NG ? I have to tell you that I agree with your other points and I wish Australia would do the same.



Well, on reflection, the 'cultural values' comment was a bit tempremental on my part, as the values I had in mind have pretty much always been around in England. I was thinking of the Materialism and Consumerism values which are so dominant today, but perhaps there's been more of a march toward them since the 1950s.

You look around any town or city in England on a Friday and Saturday night, I wouldn't advise it by the way, and they're full of drunken idiots and ten-bob millionaires; and Christmas, well, people buying things they don't need with money they don't have. I'd like to think that maybe there'd be a move toward values which promote the simple things in life, but I suppose our towns and cities have always been a bit hectic and depraved; and as ever the rural parts of the country retain some sort of Naturalism.

Perhaps we have too many towns and cities on a small island and I think Heidegger has been proven entirely correct in his observations.

Fortunately, those of us today can look back at the way it was, read about say the Georgian Poets and how they viewed life, and have a sense of a time when Consumerism wasn't so dominant; which is certainly fortunate as I wouldn't want to be looking back and reading about this age because it seems so non-descript and pointless in terms its values.




Musicmystery -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/3/2015 10:47:26 AM)

Breaking news.....


WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In the strongest sign to date that he intends to seek the 2016 Republican Presidential nomination, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush has officially resigned his position as George W. Bush’s brother.

“No longer being related to his brother is a key step to clearing Jeb’s path to the nomination,” an aide said on New Year’s Day. “We expect his poll numbers to soar on this.”

According to the aide, the former Florida governor resigned his post as brother in a ten-minute phone call with George W. Bush, after which he blocked the former President’s phone number and e-mail address.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/jeb-bush-resigns-george-w-bushs-brother




Musicmystery -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/3/2015 10:56:42 AM)

Andy Borowitz"
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"The one hitch for Jeb Bush is I'm pretty sure the constitution forbids Dick Cheney from being President for a third term."




GoddessManko -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/3/2015 11:08:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Breaking news.....


WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In the strongest sign to date that he intends to seek the 2016 Republican Presidential nomination, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush has officially resigned his position as George W. Bush’s brother.

“No longer being related to his brother is a key step to clearing Jeb’s path to the nomination,” an aide said on New Year’s Day. “We expect his poll numbers to soar on this.”

According to the aide, the former Florida governor resigned his post as brother in a ten-minute phone call with George W. Bush, after which he blocked the former President’s phone number and e-mail address.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/jeb-bush-resigns-george-w-bushs-brother


LMAO! Oh dear gawd, not another Bush.
Bartender! I'll have a fifth of scotch please, stat!
On the bright side, GW is actually quite the artist and can paint the most illustrious pictures of puppies! I am remaining optimistic he's not necessarily a bad guy but just was slow on the veto and kind of let his advisors make all his decisions for him.
I'm not too thrilled about Hillary either but she has all the makings of a good politician (pandering, check! husband who is loved by both sides of the political aisle,check!, no real contenders thus far, check!) and I have a feeling Congress would be way more inclined to play ball with the prior first lady to America's favorite President. Progress will be a lot slower than it would have been had Congress worked with this president but half a glass is better than none. I do wonder if she would allow the markets to crash or evolve. D or R, who will win her favor?




Musicmystery -> RE: New Year politics or political wishes, desires, or predictions! (1/3/2015 11:23:49 AM)

I would love to see Hilary successfully challenged in the primaries. I have reservations about voting for her.




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