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thishereboi -> RE: Finally -- sensible use of Capitol Hill re: immigration (12/9/2014 6:42:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking Yep. Only two more years and he'll be out'a there. [sm=binky.gif] Then we'll have Hillary for President, and a pile of Democrats in the House and Senate. Dare I say it...a super majority in both. And after that, they'll not be in the mood to 'wheel and deal' with Republican/Tea Partiers. They learned the mistake of 'reaching across the aisle for bipartisanship on bills in the last few years. Republicans and more especially the Tea Partiers hate bipartisanship or 'working together as one nation'. They'll just pass stuff actual Americans want/need and tell the Republican/Tea Partiers whom serve the 1%'er to 'go fuck themselves'! Before this last election a lot of folks were crowing about how the dems were going to sweep in and take over. Funny how it's now the next election that's going to be the one. But don't feel to bad, as long as there are republicans in power, you will always have someone to blame everything on.

GoddessManko -> RE: Finally -- sensible use of Capitol Hill re: immigration (12/9/2014 8:03:11 AM)
FR, Is the goal of all this rooting for one team or the other getting actual legislation done one day possibly? Instead of hundreds of bills being rejected by Congress? I'm just curious since our kids have to live here and millenials are still affected by the Bush-era recession. Thanks. Sorry but I am just trying to understand the actual "end game" of all of this.

KenDckey -> RE: Finally -- sensible use of Capitol Hill re: immigration (12/9/2014 8:24:58 AM)
What I don't understand: The National Archives doesn't list an EO for Obama's executive action http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2014.html So I went to the White House http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2014.html again nothing So I looked at the Presidential Memo's http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/presidential-memoranda nothing other than some requirements for studies and recommendations to come. So in Obama's speech http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/obama-immigration-speech-transcript/index.html Where did he do all this stuff? Did he set up the Department Secretaries to take the fall?

GoddessManko -> RE: Finally -- sensible use of Capitol Hill re: immigration (12/9/2014 8:46:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KenDckey What I don't understand: The National Archives doesn't list an EO for Obama's executive action http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2014.html So I went to the White House http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2014.html again nothing So I looked at the Presidential Memo's http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/presidential-memoranda nothing other than some requirements for studies and recommendations to come. So in Obama's speech http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/20/politics/obama-immigration-speech-transcript/index.html Where did he do all this stuff? Did he set up the Department Secretaries to take the fall? The fall of what exactly? Do you know there are illegal immigrants who's children have enlisted and died for this country? I'm trying to understand your opposition to the President acknowledging there are "technicalities" that slip through the cracks on this issue. At what point is this going to be about "making this country better" vs having an unmoving stance on one particular issue? I'm sorry for my ignorance as to why "inaction" is equivalent to "success".

Musicmystery -> RE: Finally -- sensible use of Capitol Hill re: immigration (12/9/2014 9:32:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: joether quote: ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking Yep. Only two more years and he'll be out'a there. [sm=binky.gif] Then we'll have Hillary for President, and a pile of Democrats in the House and Senate. Dare I say it...a super majority in both. And after that, they'll not be in the mood to 'wheel and deal' with Republican/Tea Partiers. They learned the mistake of 'reaching across the aisle for bipartisanship on bills in the last few years. Republicans and more especially the Tea Partiers hate bipartisanship or 'working together as one nation'. They'll just pass stuff actual Americans want/need and tell the Republican/Tea Partiers whom serve the 1%'er to 'go fuck themselves'! Before this last election a lot of folks were crowing about how the dems were going to sweep in and take over. Funny how it's now the next election that's going to be the one. But don't feel to bad, as long as there are republicans in power, you will always have someone to blame everything on. Really. Like who?

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