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joether -> Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 2:54:15 PM)

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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.

William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.

Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.

The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”

Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.

The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.

He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.

The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.


So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.

An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....





BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 2:58:15 PM)

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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.

William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.

Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.

The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”

Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.

The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.

He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.

The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.


So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.

An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....



Don't and never have believed in open carry.
Bad tactics, this just proves I am right.
If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.
Possibly semi automatic, somebody doesn't know what they are talking about.




subrob1967 -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 3:10:00 PM)

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WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.




BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 3:34:21 PM)

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WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.

I agree, the story doesn't quite fit together does it?
That means we have nothing to go on but his word, maybe he just reported it stolen so that it is no longer "his" gun.
Maybe the whole thing is a sham.
Add to that he thought maybe the other guys gun was an automatic?




RottenJohnny -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 3:37:16 PM)


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If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.

Thankfully, in Michigan we have concealed carry.




BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 3:41:27 PM)

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If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.

Thankfully, in Michigan we have concealed carry.

In Alabama you can carry open.
You need a permit to carry concealed.
However stores have the right to bar open carry inside the store, and if someone like Joether sees you carrying open off of your property and panics you can be charged with disturbing the peace.




RottenJohnny -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:08:42 PM)


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If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.

Thankfully, in Michigan we have concealed carry.

In Alabama you can carry open.
You need a permit to carry concealed.
However stores have the right to bar open carry inside the store, and if someone like Joether sees you carrying open off of your property and panics you can be charged with disturbing the peace.


You need a CCW permit here as well. I believe open carry is only allowed on your own property or within your own business.




joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:31:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.

William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.

Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.

The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”

Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.

The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.

He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.

The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.


So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.

An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....

Don't and never have believed in open carry.
Bad tactics, this just proves I am right.
If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.
Possibly semi automatic, somebody doesn't know what they are talking about.


I don't believe in open carry either for the same reason; bad tactics. Who is the first one dead when the convenience store is being robbed? The guy with the open carry. And what happens to that gun? The robber uses it for added firepower.

I beg to differ here. I've met quite a score of 'pro carry' types that are 'pro open carry'.





joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:33:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.


What's more funny is when you realize he had that gun for less than 24 hours....




joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:35:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.

I agree, the story doesn't quite fit together does it?
That means we have nothing to go on but his word, maybe he just reported it stolen so that it is no longer "his" gun.
Maybe the whole thing is a sham.
Add to that he thought maybe the other guys gun was an automatic?


Then that would be filing a false police statement. That will catch him in even...MORE...trouble with the law if it was true.




BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:36:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.


What's more funny is when you realize he had that gun for less than 24 hours....


Which makes the whole story more questionable.
Ps Thanks for living up to everyones opinion of you and gloating over ad gun owner being victimized.




BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:38:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.

William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.

Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.

The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”

Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.

The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.

He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.

The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.


So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.

An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....

Don't and never have believed in open carry.
Bad tactics, this just proves I am right.
If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.
Possibly semi automatic, somebody doesn't know what they are talking about.


I don't believe in open carry either for the same reason; bad tactics. Who is the first one dead when the convenience store is being robbed? The guy with the open carry. And what happens to that gun? The robber uses it for added firepower.

I beg to differ here. I've met quite a score of 'pro carry' types that are 'pro open carry'.



Who on here.
The ones in MA drink the same water you do and are clearly just as big a fools.




joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:45:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.

William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.

Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.

The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”

Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.

The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.

He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.

The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.


So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.

An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....

Don't and never have believed in open carry.
Bad tactics, this just proves I am right.
If you had paid attention you will find that virtually none of the pro carry people are pro open carry.
Possibly semi automatic, somebody doesn't know what they are talking about.


I don't believe in open carry either for the same reason; bad tactics. Who is the first one dead when the convenience store is being robbed? The guy with the open carry. And what happens to that gun? The robber uses it for added firepower.

I beg to differ here. I've met quite a score of 'pro carry' types that are 'pro open carry'.

Who on here.
The ones in MA drink the same water you do and are clearly just as big a fools.


Yet we have a better economy, health care, financial value, and more places of higher education than anywhere else in the nation. And the water here is just fine; I just wouldn't recommend jumping in unless your a polar bear!




DesideriScuri -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:48:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: joether
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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.
William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.
Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.
The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”
Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.
The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.
He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.
The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.

So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.
An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....


Actually, it's Concealed Carry that is supposed to deter crime. The idea is that the would-be thief doesn't know if you are carrying or not. Once he knows you're carrying, he can pull his gun before you can pull yours and then you're fucked.

So, this dumbass was open carrying, and got robbed of his gun. It's amazing how funny you find that someone got robbed, at gunpoint.

But, it's just politics as usual, right?




joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 4:49:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.

What's more funny is when you realize he had that gun for less than 24 hours....

Which makes the whole story more questionable.
Ps Thanks for living up to everyones opinion of you and gloating over ad gun owner being victimized.


Well seems everyone on here needs to get a freaking life then.....

...or are you going to tell me that none of these individuals have not laughed and gloated on things towards those that don't share the same views? Go ahead.....bullshit....





BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 5:13:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.

What's more funny is when you realize he had that gun for less than 24 hours....

Which makes the whole story more questionable.
Ps Thanks for living up to everyones opinion of you and gloating over ad gun owner being victimized.


Well seems everyone on here needs to get a freaking life then.....

...or are you going to tell me that none of these individuals have not laughed and gloated on things towards those that don't share the same views? Go ahead.....bullshit....



Very rarely and mostly when someone gets messed up while committing a crime, never over an innocent victim.




joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 5:32:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
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ORIGINAL: joether
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GRESHAM, Ore. (KOIN 6) — A man practicing his open carry right was robbed of the gun he was openly carrying.
William Coleman III was robbed of his Walter- brand P22 just after 2:00 a.m. October 4 in Gresham by a young man who asked him for it — and flashed his own weapon as persuasion.
Coleman, 21, was talking to his cousin in the 17200 block of NE Glisan St., after purchasing the handgun earlier that day, when a young man asked him for a cigarette, police said.
The man then asked about the gun, pulled a gun from his own waistband and said “”I like your gun. Give it to me.”
Coleman handed over the gun and the man fled on foot.
The suspect is thin a black male, between 19 and 23 years old, clean cut with a small patch of facial hair on his chin, and short black wavy hair.
He is roughly six feet tall, wearing grey sweatpants, a white T-Shirt and flip-flop sandals.
The weapon he used in the robbery was described as a possibly semi-automatic, black gun, Gresham Police said.

So....I thought that 'open carry' was suppose to DETER crime towards the individual with the firearm? He didn't loose his cellphone or wallet, just the firearm.
An he got robbed by a guy in flip-flops! HAHAHA.....


Actually, it's Concealed Carry that is supposed to deter crime. The idea is that the would-be thief doesn't know if you are carrying or not. Once he knows you're carrying, he can pull his gun before you can pull yours and then you're fucked.

So, this dumbass was open carrying, and got robbed of his gun. It's amazing how funny you find that someone got robbed, at gunpoint.

But, it's just politics as usual, right?



Funny when people without guns get robbed, some on here have a sadistic pleasure in it. Go ahead, admit that it doesn't happent. Anyone on here can read through the bullshit.....

No, I've heard it from several on here that 'guns deter crime'. That would include 'open carry' and 'concealable carry'. How many of those 'mass shootings' the FBI reported just last month were stopped by 'concealable carry' individuals? By 'Open Carry'? Isn't it kind of odd that with so many firearms, in so many hands, there isn't a dozen examples of mass shootings being fortunately thwarted by some non-LEO with a firearm (be it conceal or open)? The law of averages would come into play here, wouldn't it?

So, based solely on the information presented....

We have an individual that was robbed at gun point when they had the means to defend themselves on their person. You....can....understand the irony here, right?

And if the guy made the whole thing up, there is a police report filed; and as I pointed out, he would be in even more...SHIT...with the law.

The guy was not injured or killed. If all this happen for real, he should just count himself lucky.




MasterCaneman -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 5:42:03 PM)

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Open carry is no excuse for not being aware of your surroundings or thinking that heater is your salvation. Everyone here knows my stance, and I suspect there is more to the story as well. Straw purchase, perhaps, and he was just trying to cover his ass?




joether -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 5:49:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.

What's more funny is when you realize he had that gun for less than 24 hours....

Which makes the whole story more questionable.
Ps Thanks for living up to everyones opinion of you and gloating over ad gun owner being victimized.

Well seems everyone on here needs to get a freaking life then.....

...or are you going to tell me that none of these individuals have not laughed and gloated on things towards those that don't share the same views? Go ahead.....bullshit....

Very rarely and mostly when someone gets messed up while committing a crime, never over an innocent victim.


I recall a thread in which some gun owner killed an a man that had Alzheimer's disease. The man was confused, in the mist of an episode. So he was banging on the door he thought was his house. Turned out it wasn't his house. So the home owner called the police. But instead of waiting in the house for the cavalry to arrive, what did he do? He went outside to confront the intruder. No back up, no clear line of retreat, in the dark, no flashlight, with no understanding of what he was up against....to confront this person. That the old man walked towards the man with the gun and was shot to death.

We had this discussion. You, BamaD, and many others were apart of it. And many of you sided with the homeowner even when I pointed out the mistakes this idiot made. And you tried to defend these mistakes like it was all justifiable. How justifiable is it to kill a 70+ year old man, suffering a horrible illness, and just needed some compassion? And you all argued it was 'ok'.

Or how about the guy that shot the boy whom was invited into the house by the daughter? Yeah, we argued the finer points on that one too. And the consensus with those in favor of 'unrestricted firearms' was the kid had broke into the house and was a real threat to the adult whom lost his temper shortly before shooting the kid to death.

In those two cases, someone died horribly. In the one I bring here, the victim is lucky to be alive. There are a number of people that have emailed me about being more compassionate towards others than most on these boards. Do you really think I would take pleasure in...ANYONE....getting killed? You would have to completely lost your mind, DS. You maybe many things, but your not insane from what I can understand at current.




BamaD -> RE: Open Carry Guy....ROBBED! (10/8/2014 5:58:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: BamaD
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ORIGINAL: joether
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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
WTF was this moron doing out open carrying at 2am? It appears to me he was asking for trouble walking around at 2am with a .22 caliber pistol. There is something fishy about this story.

What's more funny is when you realize he had that gun for less than 24 hours....

Which makes the whole story more questionable.
Ps Thanks for living up to everyones opinion of you and gloating over ad gun owner being victimized.

Well seems everyone on here needs to get a freaking life then.....

...or are you going to tell me that none of these individuals have not laughed and gloated on things towards those that don't share the same views? Go ahead.....bullshit....

Very rarely and mostly when someone gets messed up while committing a crime, never over an innocent victim.


I recall a thread in which some gun owner killed an a man that had Alzheimer's disease. The man was confused, in the mist of an episode. So he was banging on the door he thought was his house. Turned out it wasn't his house. So the home owner called the police. But instead of waiting in the house for the cavalry to arrive, what did he do? He went outside to confront the intruder. No back up, no clear line of retreat, in the dark, no flashlight, with no understanding of what he was up against....to confront this person. That the old man walked towards the man with the gun and was shot to death.

We had this discussion. You, BamaD, and many others were apart of it. And many of you sided with the homeowner even when I pointed out the mistakes this idiot made. And you tried to defend these mistakes like it was all justifiable. How justifiable is it to kill a 70+ year old man, suffering a horrible illness, and just needed some compassion? And you all argued it was 'ok'.

Or how about the guy that shot the boy whom was invited into the house by the daughter? Yeah, we argued the finer points on that one too. And the consensus with those in favor of 'unrestricted firearms' was the kid had broke into the house and was a real threat to the adult whom lost his temper shortly before shooting the kid to death.

In those two cases, someone died horribly. In the one I bring here, the victim is lucky to be alive. There are a number of people that have emailed me about being more compassionate towards others than most on these boards. Do you really think I would take pleasure in...ANYONE....getting killed? You would have to completely lost your mind, DS. You maybe many things, but your not insane from what I can understand at current.


Yep, you were wrong every time.
I am not going to waste time going back over cases were the legal authorities sided with me every time.




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