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Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 3:24:30 PM

joether

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The topic....meant metaphorically not liberally.

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A visibly frustrated House Speaker John Boehner slammed President Barack Obama's handling of the border crisis Thursday, saying that the commander in chief should take responsibility for the problem.

“This is a problem of the president’s own making,” he said. “He’s been president for five and a half years! When's he going to take responsibility for something?"

Boehner also indicated that House Republicans won’t give the president a “blank check” to deal with the issue. But, he added, he does believe that Congress should act this month to address the influx of unaccompanied minors from Central America.

“I’ll tell you this, we’re not giving the president a blank check,” he said of Obama’s request for a $3.7 billion emergency fund for the humanitarian crisis. “Beyond that, we will await further discussions with our members before we make any final decisions."

Really Mr. Speaker of the House? Immigration reform and border Security is the President's fault? I seem to recall the problem persisted well before Mr. Obama was a Senator....

President Obama has accomplished quite a lot of things in office. The current Congress is the second least productive in the 238 years of the United State's history. The most unproductive year? That was in 2013. Who was 'Speaker of the House' for both years?

John Boehner

Perhaps, Mr. Boehner should....STFU....and do his fucking job! Or maybe hire some people to explain his job duties of the nation to him (he apparently doesn't seem to understand them at present). Make sure to include someone that can explain a concept most elementary school kids know after the first grade: compromising. Giving something up to get something that is wanted. Because I seriously don't think he's intelligent nor educated enough to know the word or the concept of the word.

Further, the President is not asking for a 'blank check', but $3.7 billion dollars. I would like to think that conservatives/libertarians could hire people to public office that have at least a high school education and use it in their duties in representing the country. I recall that a previous President asked for many times that number for the war in Iraq, and Republicans didn't even give it a second thought. When they controlled Congress (the House & Senate) they had all the ability to improve border security. Why wasn't it done?

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 3:39:47 PM

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Joe, you truly are an idiot.

Haven't you been paying attention to the fucking news lately? The country is being INVADED by illegals children, we're talking 10's of thousands in the last 3 months.

Yeah it is fucking Obama's fault for allowing this "crisis"happen.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 4:03:00 PM

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Like so many on the left, you can find a way to always make it someone else's fault that was here before Barry. Just one problem with that...there isn't a past president who could not have used that same excuse. That still didn't stop them from shutting up...eventually...and doing something.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 4:04:57 PM

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May that approach eventually work for Congress.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 4:56:02 PM

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Joe, you truly are an idiot.

Haven't you been paying attention to the fucking news lately? The country is being INVADED by illegals children, we're talking 10's of thousands in the last 3 months.

Yeah it is fucking Obama's fault for allowing this "crisis"happen.

We're being invaded by children? really? Is that really the spin you want to put on it? These kids are fleeing violence at home and are seeking safety and in some cases their parents. Our deportation policy created the violence by sending the gangbangers to Central America and now we reap what we sowed.

And precisely how is it Obama's fault?

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 5:40:20 PM

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They're trying to escape what socialism has done to their home countries

That Obama has promised he won't send the "dreamers" home plays a huge part

Its also ironic that leftists are trying to destroy the American dream that the illegals seek by destroying the capitalism that has made the pursuit of the American dream possible for so many people for so long

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 5:52:10 PM

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Are you really that stupid to think that Mexico is a pure socialist country? Wow, if you are a true representative of the conservative base in the US, then you might as well kiss your status as a superpower goodbye.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 5:56:15 PM

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I didn't write anything about Mexico that post...

Because they're not coming from Mexico

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 6:04:35 PM

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You're right, they aren't all mexican, I apologize. But let's look at where they're coming from, shall we?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/child-migrants-flooding-the-u-s-border-a-guide-to-the-issues-1.2701489

According to this article:

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Most of them are from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras.

First, the definition of Socialism:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Socialism?s=t&path=/

1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

1) El Salvador:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Salvador#Government_and_politics

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The political framework of El Salvador is a presidential representative democratic republic with a multiform, multi-party system. The President, currently Mauricio Funes, is both head of state and head of government. Executive power is exercised by the government. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the Legislative Assembly. The country also has an independent Judiciary and Supreme Court.

2) Guatemala
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala#Governance

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Guatemala is a constitutional democratic republic whereby the President of Guatemala is both head of state and head of government, and of a multi-party system. Executive power is exercised by the government. Legislative power is vested in both the government and the Congress of the Republic. The judiciary is independent of the executive and the legislature.

3) Honduras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Honduras

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Politics of Honduras takes place in a framework of a presidential representative democratic republic, whereby the President of Honduras is both head of state and head of government, and of a multi-party system. Executive power is exercised by the government. Legislative power is vested in the National Congress of Honduras. The party system is dominated by the conservative National Party of Honduras and the liberal Liberal Party of Honduras. The Judiciary is independent of the executive and the legislature.

So tell me, where in those brief descriptions or in those pages explain that these countries are completely socialist? Because I looked, didn't find one word in either description aside from describing the socialist Soviet union and their interactions with the soviets in their history. You sir, are full of shit.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 6:04:49 PM

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you would think socialist canada would have floods of refugees by now..
oh wait....there arent, because its not socialism thats doing it.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 6:06:18 PM

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Did you not read that before linking to it

Edited to add,

Since you decided to delete the post, here's the article you linked to (while calling me stupid)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/child-migrants-flooding-the-u-s-border-a-guide-to-the-issues-1.2701489

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 6:07:32 PM

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Theres a lot of capitalism yet in Canada

Give the socialists time, theyre working on it

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 6:14:54 PM

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LMFAO
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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 6:17:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity

Did you not read that before linking to it

Edited to add,

Since you decided to delete the post, here's the article you linked to (while calling me stupid)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/child-migrants-flooding-the-u-s-border-a-guide-to-the-issues-1.2701489

I didn't delete it, I made a mistake and I corrected it. At least I bothered to do my research, something extremists like yourself have an inability to do aside from quoting the bible.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 7:38:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

At least I bothered to do my research, something extremists like yourself have an inability to do aside from quoting the bible.

I don't see find Sanity quoting the Bible. What quote did he use?

I know you wouldn't say it if it wasn't true.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 7:38:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967
Joe, you truly are an idiot.

Haven't you been paying attention to the fucking news lately? The country is being INVADED by illegals children, we're talking 10's of thousands in the last 3 months.

Yeah it is fucking Obama's fault for allowing this "crisis"happen.

I'm an idiot? Lets test your knowledge base on US Government 101:

Who handles the creation of new laws in the United States of America:

A ) The Executive Branch
B ) The Legislative Branch
C ) The Judicial Branch

The President has to do Congress's job, because the Republicans in Congress cant figure out how to find common ground on ANYTHING, not just immigration reform and border security measures.

So, 'yes', the Speaker of the House is bitching that that someone is doing their job (as I pointed out) and his 'pile of minions' cant accomplish the basics of national government.

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 7:42:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
I didn't write anything about Mexico that post...

Because they're not coming from Mexico

If they aren't coming from Mexico, then why are there so many conservatives bitching about the southern border of America?

Either the border is having problems that immigration reform and border security improvements are needed.....OR.....there is nothing wrong with the southern border.

Your either living in reality, or a fantasy

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 7:44:40 PM

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If they aren't coming from Mexico, then why are there so many conservatives bitching about the southern border of America?

And you wonder why people call you an idiot?

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 7:55:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: joether
If they aren't coming from Mexico, then why are there so many conservatives bitching about the southern border of America?

And you wonder why people call you an idiot?

You cant even address the thread's central topic with anything useful.

You can not even muster a pathetic and/or weak 'argument'. Only in calling other people names. What's wrong, don't have anything useful to say?

What's wrong? Cant hold the Speaker of the House to the same level of accountability and responsibility with power as you slam President Obama all the time? You complain (bitterly I might add), of President Obama over stepping his powers as President. Well, here is your moment to do the same with the Speaker of the House. And YOU CANT DO IT. Not even for a nano-second!

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RE: Pot calls the Kettle Black.... - 7/10/2014 8:04:14 PM

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Back to the OP:
“This is a problem of the president’s own making,” he said. “He’s been president for five and a half years! When's he going to take responsibility for something?"

Where is the Immigration Reform Bill that was supposed to have been voted on years ago?
Where is any piece of useful legislation form the House?
Where is the LEADERSHIP John BONER is supposed to be providing? The only thing he has accomplished is lowering an already dismal public approval rating of Congress. Not really something to be proud of.

Fault Obama all you want but he cannot make legislation out of thin air - it must come from Congress for the President to sign or veto.

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