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OwnerFiftyNine -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (4/30/2014 12:05:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First the source is a Democrat Congressman, based on "statements" made by the residents of Bunkerville NV. The local sheriff is looking into the situation but no criminal report has been filed at this time.


The "sheriff" is a bundy supporter.


I doubt we`ll get anything truthful or helpful from him.



lovmuffin -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (4/30/2014 1:03:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OwnerFiftyNine

Meh....I can`t see your fat belly but from the pic....I know it`s there.
Oh good, make an attack on an assumption in another posters pic. That should help prove your point.


I pointed out an elected official who has received complaints from his constituents about the road blocks...
Yeah, maybe from one or two of his handful of liberal constituents.

And considering that these terrorists have already pointed loaded weapons at LEOs.....it`s not a stretch to think they set up armed check points and are stopping locals.

More assumptions, that should help prove your point even more. And terrorists ??? what a load of crap.



lovmuffin -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (4/30/2014 1:08:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OwnerFiftyNine


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

First the source is a Democrat Congressman, based on "statements" made by the residents of Bunkerville NV. The local sheriff is looking into the situation but no criminal report has been filed at this time.


The "sheriff" is a bundy supporter.
I suppose you've got proof of that.


I doubt we`ll get anything truthful or helpful from him.


I'm sure that's just another assumption. I doubt we'll get anything truthfully or helpful from you.



OwnerFiftyNine -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (4/30/2014 2:22:47 PM)

This is definitely unpresidented and just plain fucked up.....

The lunatic fringe is always warning us about government thugs yet they are the one pointing guns and asking for papers.[8|]


"The small area where Cliven Bundy’s ranch resides in Clark County, Nevada is now under occupation. The men and women of the armed militia who support the cattle rancher have set up checkpoints near Bundy’s home, requiring motorists to show identification to prove their residence before being allowed to pass.

Clark County Sheriff, Doug Gillespie, has faced increasing pressure to require the militiamen to disperse. Nevada’s Democratic Representative, Steven Horsford, penned a letter to Gillespie on Monday urging the Sheriff to ensure the safety of Bunkersville’s residents. Horsford himself has received complaints from residents in his district that Bundy’s supporters are intimidating the community, allegedly carrying firearms openly near churches, schools and other public areas."


http://www.examiner.com/article/nevada-militia-heightens-tension-with-armed-checkpoints



DesideriScuri -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (4/30/2014 3:01:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
What I don't get is guys like you harping on this.
He's wrong, they're wrong, the racism is a tangent -- and yet you're camped on the tangent.
Bottom line, he's wrong, they're wrong, next.


But, you see, I wasn't the one to bring up the tangent. It was brought up by someone else as a reason Bunker was wrong. I completely disagreed with that.



OwnerFiftyNine -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (4/30/2014 5:15:23 PM)

Republican Sen. who embraced the terrorists has 2nd thoughts.....


[8|]


"As criticism has mounted over the controversial Nevada rancher’s comments and tactics, the GOP senator is distancing himself from Bundy and his supporters after referring to them as “patriots” earlier this month.

“I am very quick in calling American citizens ‘patriots,’” Heller said in an interview. “Maybe in this case, too quick.”
You don’t say.

Heller went on to explain, “I want to make it very clear that I never called Bundy a patriot. And I believe Bundy should have been paying those fees.”

I haven’t found any evidence that the GOP senator specifically called Bundy a patriot, but let’s not lose sight of the context: Heller said, “What Sen. Reid may call domestic terrorists, I call patriots.” He appeared to be referring to the well-armed protestors and militia members who’d rallied to support Bundy in his crusade to ignore laws and court orders he doesn’t like – because he doesn’t believe the United States government exists.

Heller saw these folks create a tense, potentially violent standoff with U.S. officials and then he called them “patriots.” Whether or not he specifically used the word in relation to Bundy is interesting, but it’s not the key detail".



http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/dean-heller-has-second-thoughts-bundy



Sorry jack-ass (heller,that is)......to fuck`n late.









DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/2/2014 4:19:03 PM)

Bunkerville, Nevada. Gawd! Go figure!
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cloudboy -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/2/2014 6:25:43 PM)


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left's "war on religion." the actual truth is somewhere in the middle


What are you talking about? That was one of your worst posts ever.



Kirata -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/2/2014 6:52:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

The emphasis on patriotism, Nation etc goes back to the rise of Fascism in Europe in the 1930s.

The value of loyalty to one's group (by any definition, clan, tribe, or nation) goes back to the Stone Age. It wasn't invented by right-wing fascists in the 1930s.

K.




jlf1961 -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/2/2014 7:05:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

The emphasis on patriotism, Nation etc goes back to the rise of Fascism in Europe in the 1930s.

The value of loyalty to one's group (by any definition, clan, tribe, or nation) goes back to the Stone Age. It wasn't invented by right-wing fascists in the 1930s.

K.




While you speak truth K, I think the situation here is not so much right wing extremist nationalism, but a major case of terminal stupidity.

Consider that if the DOJ decides these militiamen are indeed domestic terrorists, then it becomes a DHS problem. and while I doubt that the DHS could manage a anti terrorist raid involving militant hamsters, there will still be a large mess for someone to clean up, unless they bulldoze mass graves and bury everyone.



Kirata -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/2/2014 7:51:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Consider that if the DOJ decides these militiamen are indeed domestic terrorists...

The government's labeling of these groups as "domestic terrorists" is nothing more or less than an attempt to divert attention away from the elephant in the room, which is that the present Administration has come to be perceived as narcissistic, intrusive, and untrustworthy by increasing numbers of people.

K.




eulero83 -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/3/2014 2:39:09 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Consider that if the DOJ decides these militiamen are indeed domestic terrorists...

The government's labeling of these groups as "domestic terrorists" is nothing more or less than an attempt to divert attention away from the elephant in the room, which is that the present Administration has come to be perceived as narcissistic, intrusive, and untrustworthy by increasing numbers of people.

K.




This or the people that never trusted the present administration and considered it untrustworthy from the beginning are getting more and more violent and unstable. I would not talk about terrorism, but they opposed with violence a court order, they took possession of cattle that was not their property, and mr Bundy is now in possession of stolen goods, I think this is worth some jail time. By the way just with their presence they are harrassing people living in the area.



jlf1961 -> RE: Rightwing terrorists setting up police state/check points in bunkerville.... (5/3/2014 3:14:06 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata



The government's labeling of these groups as "domestic terrorists" is nothing more or less than an attempt to divert attention away from the elephant in the room, which is that the present Administration has come to be perceived as narcissistic, intrusive, and untrustworthy by increasing numbers of people.

K.




As anyone can see, I have become disillusioned with the present administration, and the majority of the democrat party, so I can say that your statement would be the perfect statement to start a new topic.

However the right wing extremist militia movement predates the Clinton administration.



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