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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/9/2006 7:33:22 AM   
CrappyDom


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I take it you don't grasp the concept of INFORMED consent.  I will bet you a box of stale doughnuts that those charging for their pisspoor services talk up a storm in private about how much better whatever crap they are serving is than the "fakes" in the scene if they even admit that there are places people can get their asses beat for free.

This isn't taboo, this is stupid.  I make toys for pro-dommes, there are ones I have known as long as I have been doing this shit  and I don't know a single one worth her salt who engages in this sort of usury. 

Find me a single site that offers financial domination that has links to real world local groups and displays information on how to find a local female Dominant and I will kiss your ass.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/12/2006 3:16:20 PM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		IF I ever did a financial domination.. I'd put the money in a bank account under the submissive's name without him ever knowing.  Down the road..he'll be quite thankful, and really, isn't improving another's life what being in charge is all about?

This is a win-win situation. :)

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/12/2006 3:32:24 PM   
MissBabydoll


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrappyDom
This isn't taboo, this is stupid.  I make toys for pro-dommes, there are ones I have known as long as I have been doing this shit  and I don't know a single one worth her salt who engages in this sort of usury. 

Find me a single site that offers financial domination that has links to real world local groups and displays information on how to find a local female Dominant and I will kiss your ass.


I agree with you in general, Crappy [giggling at your name]. I don't do "financial domination" as such. I've already expressed My detestation for so-called money dommes who do nothing except exploit the addiction-prone self-loathing of damaged subs. I do play with money with some of My subs, but responsibly (see My earlier posts on this). And I do refer people to local groups (in My case, Kink in the Bay Area, for instance).

Usury, however, is the derogatory medieval Christian term for lending money at interest. That's all it means. Some of My ancestors in what is now Poland used to do that because as Jews they were not allowed to own land and the goyim didn't want to get their hands dirty. I guess we still think money is dirty--most people in America would rather tell you their most intimate sexual secrets than tell you their salary. If that's so, we live in a very dirty world, because corporate money-power controls it. (In fact, that's why it's so dirty and getting dirtier--more violent and polluted--all the time.) You don't need to go to a money domme to be exploited--just work for Wal-Mart or bank with Wells Fargo!

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 2:50:20 AM   
mons


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I understand many who are pro domme who take money, one i do not think they are wrong
second but for me i would not take a dime from many male at all. It is something i remember on of my sister all saying if you have a boyfirend and your sleeping with him he should bring grocies to the house this made me so mad to this day i am not a hooker i told her (nothing said against the pro dommes ) who know what is happening they may have kids for all i know. but i have never taken a  dime but i did get a Tiffnay necklace. that was a surpise gift. no money for me
 
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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 5:37:41 PM   
WetHotGoddess


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 CrappyDom is a very adept sophist.  Interjecting his opinion but offering no practical knowledge.  This subject indeed does seem to hold a taboo.

 I must ask- is bottoming in a group setting with a stranger actual submission, Crappy?  There is a major difference in My mind between bottoming and submitting.  The real topic is getting blurred and confused.  It is not about pay for play, or a whip and run. The real topic concerned actual D/s dynamic, between two consenting trusting partners.  The fact is, the only real power anyone has is MONEY, so if you believe in power exchange and say you are in a power exchange and touch upon everything BUT money, there are trust issues.   My slave trusts me implicitly, with his life, his body and his money.  If you do not trust yourself, and your slave cannot trust you, you do not have a real relationship, you just participate in a "scene."  My slave likes to buy things when we go out. Many times I take his money to keep him from spending it. It reminds him what he is.  Mine.   There is nothing manipulative about Power Exchange, is there?  If so, then I am so powerful that I have brainwashed my precious slave, who is highly initelligent, mature, college educated, physically and mentally fit, has a law enforcement background, and a founding member of 2  D/s groups!       
 
quote: MstrTiger
 
can anyone offer have any safety tips that might be useful to people who are interested in exploring this particular form of play?
 
Yes I can offer a safety tip.  Do not engage in an activity- be it letting someone put their hands on your testicles, or on your wallet- without trusting them with your testicles.  This type of play is not something for weekend warriors to dabble with.  
This type of play is for those who trust one another.  Period. 
 
 

more about the theory of cash play and not a long list of messages from people who perhaps would have benefited from knowing some of the basics before they decided to engage in it. I am hoping for it to be a thread where people discuss the subject from the point of view of 2 informed people engaging in it in a mutually rewarding way.

No words can express the emotional aspect of TPE.  To know he trusts me with EVERYTHING- that says it all.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 6:03:04 PM   
crouchingtigress


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Status: offline 		i think it is the last taboo.... and i love to tease with it. i am financially independent myself, and do not need a money slave, however i take such pleasure in the fear that i can elicit from a man by telling him this is something i wish to control....flames and knives near his cock is nothing to fingers in his wallet when it comes to fear buttons to push....
 
besides being emasculating and terrifying it is also a great barometer of his truthfulness which can then come back to haunt him. So many times i hear, i would do anything for you, i would give you the world, i would walk through fire, i would climb the ocean....well you get my point....
 
i always love to test, i am a very curious creature....and i like to test these things and authenticate them....so if you say you will give me the world be warned, maybe it is my sagitarious nature but i will be wanting you to prove it...
 
power is my kink.
 
like you say MsterTger....it is the last taboo...or something damn near it.

< Message edited by crouchingtigress -- 7/13/2006 6:09:04 PM >

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 6:55:21 PM   
Sinergy


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Status: offline 		Hello A/all,

My main issue on this whole thread is that if it is consensual on
both partners, I dont see what the big deal is.

I have never heard of somebody being used against their will because of an addiction to money, but I would tend to doubt it
is the sort of addiction (like crack or crystal meth) which would
make it a nonconsensual crack-whoring.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 7:11:21 PM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		I am doing a financial domination of sorts. My sub wants to undergo some training as he has never been a sub before so he is very green. One of the things I desperately want him to work on is saving money. The man can't save money to save his soul so he has been living hand to mouth all this life! His car is dying and is in terrible shape, he has trash for credit. Therefore that means he needs to save some money to purchase (eventually) a used vehicle. We talked about it and he agreed he wanted to do this.
I made a budget for him and I'm helping him find someone to commute to work with so he can cut down on his expenses. I also  told him 3 days out of the week he is to take his lunch to work and he said he spends about ten bucks per lunch so thats 30 dollars a week. Every friday he sends me the money and I put it into a savings account for HIM. I don't want or need his money, I have quite a bit of my own. What I do need is for him to learn to save and get himself together. He wants to straighten out his credit and I agreed to help him (without giving him money or paying off his debts)work on that.
I have told him he can have this money if he has a good reason like an emergency or if he decides the training isnt for him, its his money he can do what he wants with it. So far its working, I show him the bank statement every month and it makes him happy to know he now has some savings.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 7:25:07 PM   
LotusSong


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Status: offline 		My Opinion:  The one that has the money, has the power.  The one that needs the money is in a position of servitude. They must provide a service to the other to get the money. There fore it does not validate domination, just need.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/13/2006 11:03:27 PM   
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here goes... I am a very generouse person i enjoy buying things for the people I love for no reason at all. I spend more of my money on buying others lil presents then i do on myslef I enjoy this because it is who I am when I see something I think a perticular loved one would love and I have the money I will buy it for them. But the whole thing is they never ask for these things they never demand them I give of these things because it is in my charector and i enjoy the enjoyment my loved ones get from the lil random gifts I give. The gifts are never demanded or expected and thats what I love about it. To have a Dom DEMAND i buy them something or even ask me to buy  them a gift would insult me greatly (im not talking about when his birthday is comeing and he asks for something spacific) When these lil trinkets become a demanded or expected action it defeats the motive and love behind them When these things become a requierment for a relationship is when I see it as a greed based relationship not a love based one. I dont feel and I stress the I part on the sentence that money should never play into a relationship other then those relationships that are money based such as Boss enployee When love is supposed to be envolved there is no room for this kind of greed. to me Pro Dommes are legal prositution and i dont agree with it, and i guess that falls under my kink is not your kink... please dont take this the wrong way or as bashing because I am not doing that I am simply stateing how *I* feel on the subject.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/14/2006 7:34:02 AM   
WetHotGoddess


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Status: offline 		enigma you seem to have a strong moral character.  If you belive pro dommes are whores, do you also think that those who play casually are sluts?  If not, please explain.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/14/2006 7:48:26 AM   
LotusSong


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ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess

enigma you seem to have a strong moral character.  If you belive pro dommes are whores, do you also think that those who play casually are sluts?  If not, please explain.


I don't think the casual player demands money to play with her/her. 

(oops, just couldn't let this one pass)  over to you enigma.  BTW- you really expressed your self and the concept of money very well in your previous post.  I feel the same.

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RE: The last BDSM taboo? - 7/14/2006 11:06:54 AM   
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I find myself wondering why anyone wants to "control" what others do. 


Ummmmm...isn't that pretty much what being dominant is all about?


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