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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/6/2006 5:25:59 PM   
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Dear KennelDeSade2, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
You wrote in response;

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[There is no forum for adjudication, and while it is a great concept, I have yet to hear a workable proposal for one that would work.  And yes, I'll grant you that there are many oxygen thieves in I can name in my local community, and I am amazed how the most egregious villains can move twenty miles and find themselves rehabilitated as if by magic through the virtue of the "he hasn't hurt anybody in our local group" method.  Forget the net, these are well known local personalities.

Unfortunately, you are correct.  The scene and or the community at large does not have a support system to have a 'court' per se.  Whereas, the 'court' of public/scene/community opinion flows with consistant inconsistancy.  Often times it boils down to he said/she said or what becomes a popularity/personal conflict to which the home group gets sucked into by default.  Case in point in Virginia group two individuals in the local scene went through a ugly divorce. So, one made the choice to leave everybody from the scene out of the divorce and the other who was a BoD member made the choice to 'out' everybody and lied as to entice scene members into being served with court subpeona. 
 
Having violated the rules of the group, this BoD member went on a smear campaign and besmirched everybody who they felt took sides. No such facts existed but, was an emotional retaliation.  Hurt lots of people.  Now this person is, like you mentioned in a different BDSM group's jurisdiction.  Now playing victim and playing on other's sympathy and support.

Cliques, well, they are everywhere.  But I will have to say that in recent years the problem of new males entering the scene and meeting hostile reception has nearly vanished in the local scene from Bellingham to Portland.  When I began, it was only two Dommes that took a liking to me that gave me the great start I had.  You would have sworn that the established tops where in mortal fear that somebody new would steal all the women away, and not one would answer a question for another male. 
Rank inflation is something of a problem, but my own view is that a person who can carry the weight of a title, deserves it without some bogus time in service requirement.

Sir, I wish sincerely that all men did not need to meet the hostility you did and that such has vanished on a global scale.  That said, perhaps those established Tops indeed were in mortal fear that the women would be stolen away before you lifted a whip.  It takes more to be a Master than whip and bondage skills.  As men on men interaction is stand-off like for new men into the scenes, so to it is the same chilly reception by new women in the scene with some established female Tops.  So, I do understand.  I do extend my welcome most often as to be contrary to this behavior.
 
However, I must proffer for your consideration, as to what if the two female dominants did not step up and give you a hand up. 

The us vs them viewpoint where we are fighting only within our ranks, is one I disagree with.  Or will say that the reason that it might look like a fight within our ranks, is because we have no standards and the only requirement for inclusion in is to claim membership.  I think a little exclusion would do the whole scene a world of good from a PR standpoint, and serve to raise the level of expectations in the scene as well.


 
May I offer for consideration, that though I respect your disagreement of the "us vs. them" mentality; as there are no standards and mere participation creates entitlement as a member of the scene and or community.  However, the 'sense of' being politically correct is only a mask of which hides underlying prejudices.  This has been manifested occassionally even on this forum.  This is where I have concerns.
 
The stalemate per se, is to which specific group, class and or style of M/s, D/s, S&M, BDSM, Gorean, etc., will dictate what is to be excluded and or sit in judgement over any other.  Even if representatives of each group formed a series of standards as to exclude, just like politics--you'll never see total satisfaction.  What keeps in my mind's eye is what might be a majority now may be a minority later.  Perhaps, at a later time and a future group will form standards, to which all would be agreeable to comply with.  Hopefully, it will start with a code of civil behavior, that will enhance what we (in general terms) have today.
 
Respectfully submitted for consideration,
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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/6/2006 9:00:34 PM   
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So, I'm talking with a girl who tells me about having just met Dom Wonder, fifty years in the lifestyle. Master of shibari (sic) rope bondage learned at the knee of a master of one of the ancient houses Japan where he studied from birth. Skilled practitioner of all forms of sensation play, able to weave pleasure and pain into a net that will ensnare the senses of any who have at least two of five senses still working. One who is not only in charge of his own destiny, but ready to have her move in and take charge of her life within three days of first meeting.


oh man, thanks for posting that. it had me laughing in tears. it's so wrong, on so many levels, oh boy oh boy where to start.

fifty years in the lifestyle, huh. i don't know anyone that's been fifty years at it. that'd make it 1956, the earliest. "the lifestyle" of 1956, you say. puhleaze.

master of shibari, is he. japan is a small country with a huge culture. sometimes, sharp edges of that culture penetrate the all-engrossing rubber ball that is "pop culture" and there we have it, exotic shit like shibari. equivalently, the japanese say "let's go eat mcdonalds". to them, mcdonalds really stands for fast food, and the statement doesn't raise unsettling questions along the lines of "ronald too ?".

but be that as it may. ancient houses in japan, you say. one of, no less. was it oda ? did mr nobunaga personally impart the gilded rope of bondage +12, +5 to all stats, +10 to all resistances upon our truely blessed dominant ? or was it house takeda ?

studied from birth, where, in da house of ancientness ? a bit too literal a translation of the word, they meant house more like buzoku than taku. i think.

the only way this unbelivable collection of shiny clanker can make sense is if one is slightly aware of english-language pulp literature dedicated to the subject. in which case, it's pretty hilarious. i can picture a couple subbies thinking someone is setting them up for a laugh, under the circumstances.

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I'm not looking to lead some new movement. But perhaps it's time we all take another look at the idea of accepting every type and style of conduct in the lifestyle/scene/whatthefuckever as just as valid as any other. For myself, nobody gets benefit of “able until proven otherwise” from here out. The level of abuse has become too large to continue otherwise.


gospel. where do i sign ?

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/6/2006 9:02:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: KennelDeSade2

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Ok, I'm all for making sport of DomWonder, but what of CluelessGirl?
Is there such a thing as "bottom solidarity"? If so, count me out.


I'm gonna take a real fast swipe at this one.  I'll grant your point, but offer no sympathy.  For me it's simple.  My belief is the moment I claim to be in charge, I also accept the responsibility for conduct and outcome.  The captain of the Titanic may not have been at the helm when it hit the iceberg, but regardless, he was responsible.  Any leader worthy of his command understands the concept, and does not quibble the point, or make excuses.

There is no problem with bad submissives.  There for damn sure is a problem with those who represent themselves as Dom, Master, or Owner, and snivel about how the girls don't respect them, or can't be controlled.  Let's leave passive aggressive in the vanilla world where it's most at home, shall we?

If people who don't have a spine can stand up straight, square their shoulders, and give the appearance of striving to do the right thing regardless of personal sacrifice, a surprising number will find the reality is less work than the pretense, and develop a spine in the process.  I will never fault anybody making a good faith effort.


Yeah, I get that. But it won't matter who's responsible if Clueless girl ends up dead.




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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/6/2006 9:20:42 PM   
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begin off topic rant>>Yes, and then newbies such as myself would never be given a fighting chance.

i think you misunderstand.
people aren't allowed to drive cars before someone who is ascertained to be able to driver has seen them driving for 40 hours, give or take. people aren't alowed to drive jets until teams of jet flying experts have seen them interact with simulators for far longer intervals. why ? because you can cost people alot of money and a lot of blood driving a car badly.

my 12 year old niece, who is a very bright kid, could probably drive. not terribly fast, not for competitions, not for a day straight. none the less, she could probably drive. her parents take care not to leave the keys around, because a smart curious kid like that may even try, and initially succeed very well. and then, emboldened, kill herself.

so, while tasks obvious and plain to a bright 12 year old still require 40 hours of supervised practice, for fear ineptitude may well kill, we should have tasks that are not plain to anyone, and much less obvious not require any supervised practice, in spite of being in fact much more dangerous to life and limb than just driving a car ? why ?

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 2:00:47 AM   
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So why do I think change now is a good thing when I didn't before?


Now days, give me ten minutes and wiki, and I can prove to a newbie that my barbed wire and razor blade flogger is the perfect tool for training beginners, and isn't really much more intense than velvet and bunny fur. A good line delivered with the oiled grace that only cut and paste provides, can be fairly sure of convincing at least one neophyte, that MasterDTWD is the real deal. As long as little things like honesty and ethics don't get in the way.


The difference today is the stakes are raised by two main factors. We have become trendy, with lots of new interest is flooding in, and at the same time we are deluged with net porn that makes the potentially lethal seem as safe as a walk in the rain. Take the big interest lately in something like ass to mouth sex. You see it as a constant netporn staple where Dick Johnson pulls his love mallet out of the formerly virgin anal passage of Virginia Cumzalot and spins her around then hovers poised for good camera angle, his glistening member poised before her mouth. Then, in a move that promises enough lip damage to send some doctors kid to Harvard, “Big Dick” slams his throbbing appendage fully down the throat of our eager heroine and pounds like John Henry racing the steam engine. Thereby proving to MasterDomTopWonderDude that any submissive worth the name should be eager to perform the same service for him at the drop of a hat.


Of course, what wonder boy fails to consider is the history of millions of lives lost to little bacteria born diseases like E. coli, Dysentery, and cholera After all, he saw it done on the Internet, and they wouldn't do it unless it was safe, right?


Thing is, there is a huge difference between somebody who actually knows what they are doing, and MstrLovly who learned everything he needs to know, by being a net porn aficionado. What this ass to mouth expert serving as our bad example don't have, is understanding that the edge play seen in online porn shows less than half of the required time needed for preparation, execution and aftercare. And net porn NEVER shows what happens when things go really wrong. After all, a girl in a hospital bed with four IV bottles running in an effort to clear her body of cholera, isn't a scene, that will be a big seller, unless it's on the faces of death blooper reel.


Unlike the mostly harmless of times past, the fakes of today feel empowered by virtue of their online education. After all, they payed the entire thirty five dollars for a full months membership at ExtremeMasterDoorMatSlut.ru and watched every single ass to mouth movie. TWICE! Knowing each video lesson from fast forward to freeze frame replay, and having graduated cummin lordy they are now entitled to spread the gospel. Consent be damned, they are going to find a real girl now and get their moneys worth!


Think that our freshly minted ass bandit has any clue there are things he didn't see? How about the day of fasting? Think he is telling the girl he cornered online about the girl in the vid first being cleaned out with four enemas, a vinegar wash, and liberal application of antibacterial lube applied seconds before the director shouts “roll tape” and the fuck fest begins? Not a chance! It's not your grandpas stick the dick in the furry box any more. And every rump ranger Bob who believes seeing is believing, doesn't get my vote of solidarity to parlay his ignorance, into a one man epidemic.


Conditions changed, I changed my mind. Your mileage may vary. But girls? Next time MasterDomTopWonderDude wants a little harmless ass to mouth, offer to stick your finger up his ass and then down HIS throat.


Then, if he still feels the same way about everything he learned from net porn this time next week, tell him you will give it some consideration then.


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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 6:40:07 AM   
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I found BDSM by chance on CIS and AOL back when people could claim membership in the Old Guard, and The Great Houses of Europe and the Orient in a chat room, and not be laughed right off the net.  Now the only silly thing left from that time is Gor, but that's a whole topic alone. For those who aren't that old, I'll mention that AOL was the first place where a female nick had a better than fifty percent chance of actually belonging to a person born with two X chromosomes.  So. Let's save bashing AOL for another time, shall we?



Some people actually hacked into ARPANET professor accounts on  universities (long before the Clear Channel right-wing nuts tried to convince the world that Al Gore invented the internet.  Al Gore did what congresspeople do; he helped fund DARPA) with our 300 baud modems and indulged in using the program TALK.

I wont go in to who.  Fifth amendment and all that.

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 6:59:23 AM   
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Some people actually hacked into ARPANET professor accounts on  universities


Some of us didn't have to hack... we were professors. [academic grin]

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 7:36:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy


Some people actually hacked into ARPANET professor accounts on  universities


Some of us didn't have to hack... we were professors. [academic grin]


The two of you suddenly have me wondering if we're all turning into a Dinosaur convention here...
 
*makes sure the old 300 baud is still hidden in the attic, since she's another netosaurus*

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 8:26:53 AM   
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*makes sure the old 300 baud is still hidden in the attic, since she's another netosaurus*


georgia peach, i feel tempted to call bullshit on that. i don't know why, it's probably the way you phrase things, it reads so painfully "me-too" ish. i don't belive it.

go to that attic, take a pic of the modem and prove me wrong, wouldja. 48 hours should give you plenty of time, even if a me-too professor with a me-too apranet account doesn't have a digicam, i'm sure at least one person you met on arpanet back in the day must have kept with the technology.

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 2:19:27 PM   
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Dinosaurs indeed.  *insert cyber grin here*  What a pity I paid such little attention to the inbetween before I typed my reply:

Referring to him as wonder boy is perfect.  The question lingering in my mind is, when did this start?  At what point did humanity become so jaded that one cannot simply enjoy a good bitchslap?  I mean one of the most erotic moments in my 15 year old life (when I was 15, duh) was the night I convinced the one I was fooling around with to chain my hands together and slap me across the face.  You know what?  I did all the talking.  Why is it that when one does not know what one wants, one must assume, ASSUME that everyone else should know for them?  Who gave humans this ridiculous sense of entitlement?  Or is it only Americans I wonder?  Like a bratty teenager we mimic what we see on TV because, well, perhaps the TV is what raised us?  Perhaps we are just so incredibly lazy and self centered that we should not have to learn anything.  We should just be able to do anything we see.  But then it doesn't work out does it?  And what is done?  Pouting or ignoring.  Why bother taking care of the young girl on the floor when there are so many other distractions to be had.  She can take care of herself, after all I took care of myself.  That I am sure is the driving force behind the stupidity, the motto of a wannabe Dom who really doesn't want the evil r word, responsibility that comes associated with it.  Don't you DARE call yourself a Dom to me fuckbag.  Don't you claim something if you don't even know what it truly is.  You must think to yourself, this is one I truly respect and honor as my own thing.  And I've never seen a Dom NOT take care of his prized possessions.  So why leave the most important one alone on the floor crying because of sub fucking drop?  Oh right, it's not important enough.  Well if your sub isn't important enough for your thoughts and concerns then you'd better go flog yourself, 'cause that's all you'll have.

But now I am reading it and laughing quite heartily in noticing the age difference between myself, and, everyone...  It seems all I do is ask questions, even if I already know the answer.  Now that sounds silly, right?  I think not, because the way I see it, there's not one answer.  There's everyone's answer.  Gibber gibber I'm getting off topic.

I ADORE the concept of exclusion!  If there could be one organization to "sponsor" BDSM or whatnot, I am sure so many more humans would come to terms with their wants and desires.  The ideal thing I see happening in this Utopia would be that the un-approved folk would either be painstakingly obviously crappy or lazy.  And at least those are two attributes one could count on.  Except the anarchists, and if you meet one, they'll usually tell you.  

Ah yes, another note.  When KennelDeSade2 mentioned the whole watching a video, TWICE, I laughed.  And not neccessarily because of the mental image regarding attempted Dom's, but how quick and easy that is to do.  I saw a couple movies regarding computers.  I dinking on the internet for hours in 1996.  And if anyone asked, I was a hacker.  I would have battles with others where we'd try and boot the other.  All this bullshit.  I didn't know shit about computers.  But it sure was a fun lie to tell my eleven-year-old self and others.  And that's just it.  Perhaps the wannabes dislike reality so much that they're attempting (poorly) to create their own.  Just perhaps...

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/7/2006 5:51:07 PM   
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As with everything in life.. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

I came to the conclusion that not all sh*t will flush, blind loyalty is just that- BLIND and No- it's NOT  "all good".  And the scariest?  The people and personality types are the same whether you are vanilla or alternative lifestyle.  Resistance is futile, Will Robinson :) 

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 8:22:03 AM   
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I ADORE the concept of exclusion!  If there could be one organization to "sponsor" BDSM or whatnot, I am sure so many more humans would come to terms with their wants and desires.  The ideal thing I see happening in this Utopia would be that the un-approved folk would either be painstakingly obviously crappy or lazy.  And at least those are two attributes one could count on.  Except the anarchists, and if you meet one, they'll usually tell you.


Speaking of anarchists, there was a guy who wrote a great piece a number of years back, on the promotion of anarchy in BDSM.  It was really very good, and I'll try and find it.  Well, what I will do, is try and remember the name of it.  lol

The one thing that Goreans have going for them is codified rules.  OK, really they don't, they have a jumble of junk from two dozen books each with rules written in stone that are not the same from book to book, but they do come as close to having actual rules as anything in the scene.  Maybe I should put on my L. Ron hat and write a half decent BDSM holy book that can be pointed to as the one true way.  Fates aware, there is darn little chance it could be a worse hash than following the model set by the human pets of a bunch of high tech insects, in the worst sci fi ever inked.


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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 11:31:42 AM   
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As I stand on my Soap box:

I love my Leather Community .
Why?
I know is my skills and how I present my self is based on being the 24/ 7 realtime Leatherman that I am.I am accountable at all times and if I am out of line .The community will get me back on track .

It is of 5 guideline words that I live by and expect others to come at my feet LOYALTY , HONOR, RESPECT, TRUST, and INTERGRITY with all actions being of Safe ,Sane ,and Consensual .If many in this lifestyle start practicing this guideline maybe the headaches may cease.

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 1:00:25 PM   
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Did I just lose the conversation?  Or are you just explaining to us that all Doms aren't bad sirdontre?  Leather Community being something I should look up I suppose, a IRL group or something?
 
OH yeah!  And stop lying KennelDeSade2, we all know you secretly wrote that book!  *grin*

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 1:29:56 PM   
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Ok, I'm all for making sport of DomWonder, but what of CluelessGirl?
Is there such a thing as "bottom solidarity"? If so, count me out.


I'm gonna take a real fast swipe at this one.  I'll grant your point, but offer no sympathy.  For me it's simple.  My belief is the moment I claim to be in charge, I also accept the responsibility for conduct and outcome.  The captain of the Titanic may not have been at the helm when it hit the iceberg, but regardless, he was responsible.  Any leader worthy of his command understands the concept, and does not quibble the point, or make excuses.

There is no problem with bad submissives.  There for damn sure is a problem with those who represent themselves as Dom, Master, or Owner, and snivel about how the girls don't respect them, or can't be controlled.  Let's leave passive aggressive in the vanilla world where it's most at home, shall we?

If people who don't have a spine can stand up straight, square their shoulders, and give the appearance of striving to do the right thing regardless of personal sacrifice, a surprising number will find the reality is less work than the pretense, and develop a spine in the process.  I will never fault anybody making a good faith effort.




but what of CluelessGirl?
ok for starters I would unfortunately have to admit that I was the proberbial "CluelessGirl" ... and at the age of 40+ it seems a little far fetched but some of us have had lives that did not teach us basic life skills ... I survived as best I could and on some sides I am a wealth of knowledge and thought yet I lack some of the basic skills and understanding that is expected of someone my age ... should I be comdemned for this ... "deserve what I get" ... my Grandfather said 20 yrs ago that "I would not know a good man if I fell over him and broke both my legs" ... I am still trying to work out whether he was prophetising or curseing me? Either way it turned out he was right ... I reflect on my life and wonder why it is that I did not develop the skills of others, basic understandings and social knowledge? well what ever the reason, it did not change the fact that I came to discover L/s as the CluelessGirl.

Dom Wonders thought it was Christmas, and yes I got hurt and yes there are those out there that would and did say "she got what she deserved", but were they right? ... there were others who tried to protect me, offered advice and guidence and I respect and  thank these idividuals who did not think I deserved to be hurt simply because I was Clueless. One of these individuals was fairly new to L/s and some questioned His experience and ability to take on a newby like me especially given that there would be so much healing involved with me. I took the advice of others and talked much before meeting and than set in place all the safe guards that were explained to me ... He is now my Sir and He may not have 20 yrs of experience in L/s but He is always a few steps in front of me and He chooses a path with forethought and sets a pace that allows Him to always feel confident with what we are doing. I see His efforts to join in the local community and lay a foundation for our life together amd as I share in His dreams for the future, I am thankful to those who took the time to help Him along the way so that He could find me and that we could fullfill eachother and pursue the future together.

So I offer my thoughts respectfully to the boards ... I think it is hard for all newbies in L/s from any end of the spectrum and if those in L/s with the experience and knowledge allow themselves to become jaded and exculsive, than many worthwhile people will be lost to the L/s.

The "CluelessGirl" who could be the one that someone has been searching for,but she will not be found because she "got what she deserved" and left L/s unfullfilled and hurt.
The Dom that could have been the stuff of a little sub's dreams was lost to L/s because He became fraustrated with doors closing in His face everytime He asked a question to help Him learn to do something safely and properly.

These boards are a great forum for discussion but they can also be harsh and daunting to the newbie, but nowhere near as harsh and daunting as some of the responses you get when you approach an individual within L/s for some advice or information. So I know we must be vigilant for the nasty and the dangerous but perhaps we should also be vigilant for the ones that are making honest mistakes, those making a good faith effort but maybe just getting the steps to the dance wrong?

just one girls's thoughts

warm smiles to everyone
(not so clueless these days and happy in her collar) 

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 1:40:03 PM   
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*cyber high five*  Hurray for a Clueless Girl that didn't die a most painful death!  *chuckle*  Yeah, so I've decided that I'm not Clueless, 'cause I keep finding clues every day and therefore I have clues!  And on that note, I will go watch Blue's Clues...

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 1:56:17 PM   
sirdontre


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In any community or lifestyle that one is attractive to one should do a bit of research regarding the ppl ,location,and activities ,and more .The glamour side can always be misleading .

Many enter this lifestyle seeking a thrill , being unpredictable , and not being accountable  for actions and be content.

Others seek learning there is a whole lot more to this lifestyle that in fact is a larger community that is so diverse allowing one to find thier fitting .

Being a part of the greater Leather community is my fitting and hopefully many will find thiers and live with morals and guidelines .

As a part of Society our community of  BDSM / FETISH/ KINK has been frowned upon for many centuries by the mainstream world.It is up to all of us to pull the chain on those that go stray or misrepesent .

We are all accountable to making this lifestyle a positve one if we want to live it as we do  .

Question:
Without caution how many here would walk into a forest that appears  unsafe -alone ?

< Message edited by sirdontre -- 7/10/2006 2:09:15 PM >


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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 4:26:58 PM   
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Unsafe forest?  That's practically what I do for fun!  When I see an unsafe forest the first thing I think of is "Adventure!"  and I go.  I almost drowned in an oil well once, but the day would've have made as good a story now then would it have?  *grin*

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/10/2006 5:08:24 PM   
Dollbecky


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sirdontre
.Question:
Without caution how many here would walk into a forest that appears  unsafe -alone ?
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Okay  thisspeaks to me
...BDSM is like Tramping (what we call hiking here)
..you train so you're healthy enough for the hike you plan , you plan your route, check the trails etc, you notify people where and when your going, you join a local group for social/educationial reasons,you get a guide if you are not experianced, you take the right gear, you have an emergenacy plan for if  it all goes to custard, sure you cant plan for everything(acts of gods and psychos) but you can minimise.
This is what sensible people do ...even for a day walk
Now some folks go off to the Bush in tennis shoes, without  warm clothes without letting anyone know, to wander aimlessly (cos nature is romantic and harmless)and sometimes they dont come back.
Well that's Darwin at work

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RE: Master OneRope. Dom Wonder. Needs your support. - 7/11/2006 8:57:13 AM   
Driver1961


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Gee Doll, I always thought a fanny was a vagina and and a bumbag went across the bum.  Imagine my suprise when an American (South) sitcom waitress remarked to another waitress how she 'needed her fanny spanked'!  She then  spanked the other waitress's bum!   (In response to what I thought was a misspelt Trampling but was correct for Hiking)

Too many tourists think that 'going walkabout' means snapping fingers for help and a bountiful genie appears.

Seriously, Leatherman is correct, Respect and Honesty are unfortunately words just 'bandied about' by those that loathe deciet upon them but readily decieve others- end result the little red riding hood is eaten by the scurrilous wolf. Another trusting subby in the frying pan- 'finger licking good' says the Colonel!

Warm regards to all.
Driver 1961, Sir to His loving Wildchild.  (The girl linking her bag of clues)

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