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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 1:53:09 AM   
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It is an interesting fact that vast majority of 'illegal immigrants' here are white Europeans, primarily native English speakers from the UK and Ireland, who overstay their visas. Their reasons for doing so are unashamedly economic (wages here are higher, cost of living lower) and lifestyle.

Yet the term 'illegal immigrant' invariably conjures up an image of a Middle Eastern or Asian, usually Muslim, definitely non-white. The OP is a good example of this, framing the 'illegal immigrant' problem in terms of Muslims from Central and Middle Eastern Asia as the 'problem population'.

It's not about 'economic refugees'. If it was, the focus would be on white Europeans. So, a lot of the debate here is race-driven


And we used to use buggy whips a hundred years ago too.
Tweak, even if it were "race driven" so what?
The people of your country have the right to determine their own destiny as does any other country without outside interfereance..
Are you saying that people should be let into Australia (because) of their "race?"
You know those "refugees" are *counting* on you ,..."feeling sorry" for them!
They're *counting* on you thinking that you're a ,..."real humanitarian" by helping them.
They're *counting on you* to "make their problem into your problem."
We had more than 100,000 "refugees" come into this country from Cuba en masse in 1980. Most of them were criminals or undesirables that we *never* should have let in!
The murders, robberies and other crimes started pretty soon after they were,...."processed."
Funny how the govt can "process people" with no birth certificate, papers, records of any kind from Cuba.
With those kind of people if they want your 14 year old daughter they're fucking taking her!
And the cops or no-one is going to help you.
They end up in Middle or Far East countries as prostitutes and when they age out they just kill them.
So what do you tell the parents? "Hi, I'm so sorry about your loss, I was one of the people who was in favor of letting "refugees" into the country?"
You can't be nice to people like that!

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 1:53:50 AM   
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Well, it is known that Muslims have a very high frequency of inherited diseases, so there is something seriously wrong genetically with those populations and it is only sensible to not permit such bad alleles to enter and contaminate one's own gene pool.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 6:32:30 AM   
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Well, it is known that Muslims have a very high frequency of inherited diseases, so there is something seriously wrong genetically with those populations and it is only sensible to not permit such bad alleles to enter and contaminate one's own gene pool.


Your claim is racist bullshit, no more and no less.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 6:55:01 AM   
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Pff. Google muslims & "inherited diseases" and one gets thousands of hits.

One of which asserts:

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Like neighbouring and Middle Eastern countries, the Tunisian population shows a relatively high rate of consanguinity and endogamy that favor expression of recessive genetic disorders at relatively high rates. Many factors could contribute to the recurrence of monogenic morbid trait expression. Among them, founder mutations that arise in one ancestral individual and diffuse through generations in isolated communities.


It is a fact that various populations have a very high frequency of hereditary diseases, in particular Muslims, Jews, people who inhabit various islands, and a few weird Christian sects such as the Amish.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:00:37 AM   
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We are far more worried more about the inherited disease ridden dutch:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15010701

particularly this one:

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/hereditary-cerebral-amyloid-angiopathy

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:16:20 AM   
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there had to be a "pathy" in there somewhere.
This racist crap is sickening

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:36:36 AM   
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I liked how you threw the Amish in there when it is a religion and not a race of people much like the Mennonites and Mormons.
If you want to look at the "genetic" diseases of the Amish, perhaps you should investigate their heritage and not their lifestyle.
Both the Old Order Amish and the Amish Mennonite movements originated from the Swiss

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:43:16 AM   
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Islam is a religion, not a race.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:43:43 AM   
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I liked how you threw the Amish in there when it is a religion and not a race of people much like the Mennonites and Mormons.

Amish and Mennonites are populations that practise specific ways of living that are inspired by their religions.

As for inherited diseases in Muslim countries:

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As of October 2006, the CTGA database indicates the presence of 774 phenotype (disease) entries in Arab individuals


And:

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A Khaleej Times article from December 23, 2007, quotes Dr Ghazi Omar Tadmori, Assistant Director, Centre for Arab Genomic Studies (CAGS), Dubai, as saying, "Arab nations spend more than $30 billion every year on patients suffering from hereditary diseases …" and that the occurrence of hereditary diseases is also growing each year.


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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:43:55 AM   
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Most of these founder disease are from local inbreedings.   It is more lifestyle than anything.   Thats why so many Dutch have mad cow disease going on.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:50:25 AM   
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Their religion has absolutely nothing to do with their inherited genetic diseases. I am Pennsylvanian Dutch, I am not going to develop MS because I may or may not have come from an Amish religion, I am going to develop it from my heritages genetic make up.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:53:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: DominantWoman65
I liked how you threw the Amish in there when it is a religion and not a race of people much like the Mennonites and Mormons.

Amish and Mennonites are populations that practise specific ways of living that are inspired by their religions.

As for inherited diseases in Muslim countries:

quote:

As of October 2006, the CTGA database indicates the presence of 774 phenotype (disease) entries in Arab individuals


And:

quote:

A Khaleej Times article from December 23, 2007, quotes Dr Ghazi Omar Tadmori, Assistant Director, Centre for Arab Genomic Studies (CAGS), Dubai, as saying, "Arab nations spend more than $30 billion every year on patients suffering from hereditary diseases …" and that the occurrence of hereditary diseases is also growing each year.




And your point is.... ???
the overall U.S. 2002 cost of schizophrenia was estimated to be $62.7 billion, with $22.7 billion excess direct health care cost ($7.0 billion outpatient, $5.0 billion drugs, $2.8 billion inpatient, $8.0 billion long-term care).



thats on SCHIZOPHRENIA alone.....

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 7:56:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DominantWoman65
Their religion has absolutely nothing to do with their inherited genetic diseases.



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Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio


They are in my philosophy, though.


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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 8:36:33 AM   
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Modern medicine is amazing in research and treatment, but I'm afraid that your affliction and level of disdain rarely has a cure.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 10:30:05 AM   
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It is good that you have a sense of humor.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 11:19:09 AM   
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And a foreskin, obvs.

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 11:21:36 AM   
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you gotta get them alleles to tag along somehow, what better way than to paste them into the foreskin smegma, Moon? 

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 11:45:52 AM   
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I was circumcised at birth

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 11:45:56 AM   
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I do love this idea he has that pumbar is a genetic asset...

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RE: christmas island, a muslims paradise. - 1/21/2014 2:31:37 PM   
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Most of those refugees come from Pakistan, Iran and Afghanistan and what do those countries all have in common?


They're shitty oppressive places that people who don't want to live under Sharia law try to escape from?

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