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cloudboy -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 1:43:54 PM)


The fact is far-right Republicans have blocked all real attempts at immigration reform. Better to spend $18 Billion a year on militarizing the border, deportations, and incarceration than to save money and spur economic growth through reform.




BamaD -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 1:53:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DaNewAgeViking

Oh, we DO get it. That's what scares your kind so much.
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First off you don't know what "my kind" is.
Second you assume that because I disagree with much of what Obama does I hate him. (wrong)
Third you assume that my opposition is based on race, wrong again.
Fourth I will oppose anyone who considers the Constitution a fundamentally flawed document.
Fifth I will oppose anyone who so arrogantly overreaches his power.




BamaD -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 1:57:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


The fact is far-right Republicans have blocked all real attempts at immigration reform. Better to spend $18 Billion a year on militarizing the border, deportations, and incarceration than to save money and spur economic growth through reform.

Immigration reform = open borders.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 1:57:50 PM)

is that what the republicans are doing?  cuz that is what they have been supporting.




BamaD -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 3:17:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

is that what the republicans are doing?  cuz that is what they have been supporting.

Please tell me that when I said that when a Republican does it that makes it right.
You will only find that in gross misrepresentations.
In case you haven't noticed there are a number of people in both parties on the open boarder bandwagon.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 3:21:17 PM)

Please tell me where I said that you said that republicans doing that makes it right.




popeye1250 -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 3:25:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


The fact is far-right Republicans have blocked all real attempts at immigration reform. Better to spend $18 Billion a year on militarizing the border, deportations, and incarceration than to save money and spur economic growth through reform.


Cloudboy, who wants to "reform" immigration? EVERYONE knows that's a code word for "amnesty" or,..(ahem) a .....(drumroll) "Pathway to U.S. Citizenship."
And just *When* are they going to "Militarize" the border? No Tanks, Troops and Landmines there yet like in S. Korea.
Hell, if they do I'll call my congressman and tell him; "give them $30 million to Militarize the border!"
Yes, Deportations, lots of them! That's what we're paying the employees in our govt. to do!
"Spur",...."economic growth through reform?"
Oh yeah, just what every business needs, a bunch of people who can't speak English, may have "up to " a 6 th grade education and, who we *can't possibly run background checks on* because their native countries don't even keep birth records!
And of course NONE of them will ever try to get on our social welfare systems, right?
Look in the "help wanted ads" of your local newspaper, do you see thousands of factory jobs paying $30-$40 an hour?
Oh yeah, President Snow is; "focused like a lazer on the economy." Right?




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 3:28:29 PM)

You give $30 million, and a bill to be made into law that says enforce and exterminate companies who hire illegal aliens, your money will be well spent, and it will be over in less than a week.




cloudboy -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 3:41:02 PM)


Are you for Economic growth or not?

Do you want to waste $18 Billion Dollars a year on enforcement that's not working or not?

Do you want to implement mass deportations or not?

Only the fringe right is keeping its fist tightly closed on this issue. The right wing solution is BIG GOVERNMENT, anti-economic growth, without a solution that will move the nation forward.

Pragmatic people, sensible people want solutions -- even if they don't like them.




cloudboy -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 3:43:53 PM)


Running hard working aliens with roots in the USA out will only hurt the nation. Sometimes a rigid, right-wing, xenophobic, white American male has to open up his clenched fist over what's beyond his control.




popeye1250 -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 4:08:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Are you for Economic growth or not?

Do you want to waste $18 Billion Dollars a year on enforcement that's not working or not?

Do you want to implement mass deportations or not?

Only the fringe right is keeping its fist tightly closed on this issue. The right wing solution is BIG GOVERNMENT, anti-economic growth, without a solution that will move the nation forward.

Pragmatic people, sensible people want solutions -- even if they don't like them.



Ok, so you're not going to answer any of my questions then?




BamaD -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/6/2013 4:34:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


Are you for Economic growth or not?

Do you want to waste $18 Billion Dollars a year on enforcement that's not working or not?

Do you want to implement mass deportations or not?

Only the fringe right is keeping its fist tightly closed on this issue. The right wing solution is BIG GOVERNMENT, anti-economic growth, without a solution that will move the nation forward.

Pragmatic people, sensible people want solutions -- even if they don't like them.



Ok, so you're not going to answer any of my questions then?

Their solution is open borders cause what we need is lots of unskilled workers who will work for next to nothing and vote for left wingers who don't give a damn about the US and think change is automatically good.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/7/2013 8:26:55 AM)

But it is the right wing that is the open borders guys.  They talk fully from their ass,  but want their lettuce and tomato sandwiches. 




BamaD -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/7/2013 9:06:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

But it is the right wing that is the open borders guys.  They talk fully from their ass,  but want their lettuce and tomato sandwiches. 

There are at least as many left wingers who want open borders.
Left or right they are stupid.




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/7/2013 9:32:36 AM)

No, that would not compute, since nutsackers want votes too.  And it is general knowledge that nutsackers overwhelmingly support illegal voting.




BamaD -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/7/2013 10:07:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

No, that would not compute, since nutsackers want votes too.  And it is general knowledge that nutsackers overwhelmingly support illegal voting.

Like the Ohio poll worker who was convicted of voting for Obama 5 or 6 times?
And here I thought you were saying the nutsackers were Rep or at least consevatives and now we find out you have been trashing lib dems all this time




mnottertail -> RE: Obama's Immigration Reform Already In Effect (For Some) (12/7/2013 10:51:37 AM)

Yeah, that was nutsackers false flag operations like they always are.   Nutsackers are not republicans because there are not republicans in the republican party, only nutsackers.   No, I am talking about the massive voter fraud like Florida, and that fact that captain magic underpants got any votes whatsoever, as well as the horrendous gerrymandering done by nutsackers.

But illegal aliens cant vote, and this is simply another nutsacker false flag operation to keep illegal aliens in the country to work for the nutsackers masters the corporations.




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